livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A1000/655_I1.PDF
Read #20 and 21 in the statement .
Read #20 and 21 in the statement .
NJ moves to only allow 5 round mags ...Introducing new legislation
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Well, you could see this coming. And I can hardly wait for our Princess Qhuomo to follow suit. Hell, he will probably propose a limit of 3 or 4 just to not be outdone by NJ.
As I read it, this would apply to ALL firearms, not just AR's, AK's and such. I'm guessing that if this were to pass, that it would be illegal to sell any semiauto handgun with any magazine beyond 5 rounds, which I'm pretty sure would make the sale of 99% of them as offered by the manufacturers illegal.
Absolutely insane. Here is the proposed Bill. The 5 round limit is noted at the very end. http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A1000/655_I1.PDF
As I read it, this would apply to ALL firearms, not just AR's, AK's and such. I'm guessing that if this were to pass, that it would be illegal to sell any semiauto handgun with any magazine beyond 5 rounds, which I'm pretty sure would make the sale of 99% of them as offered by the manufacturers illegal.
Absolutely insane. Here is the proposed Bill. The 5 round limit is noted at the very end. http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A1000/655_I1.PDF
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
i wish people still had the balls to tar and feather these thieving politicians. they steal our rights without any repercussions. its insane to me that people allow this to happen. we almost made the leap to the next level in 2013 with the unsafe. we had numbers, we had motivation but we stopped short unfortunately.
Hahahahaha. Well if they take it to court and court rules in favor of 5 round. Could be a challenge because 7 was considered arbitrary.
Well that would be a problem for me. I carry in NJ all the time. Couldn’t even carry a revolver if that’s the case.
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
Do you have to have special permission or something to carry in NJ? There are plenty of 5 shot 38s and 357 revolvers though.
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
This bill would reduce the maximum capacity of a legal 20 ammunition magazine in New Jersey to five rounds.
freddy
.308 Win
"It don't take 10 bullets to kill a deeah!"
"It don't take 5 bullets to kill a deeah!"
"It don't take 3 bullets to kill a deeah!"
"It don't take 2 bullets to kill a deeah!"
"It don't take 1 bullet to kill a deeah!... use a rock! "
"It don't take 5 bullets to kill a deeah!"
"It don't take 3 bullets to kill a deeah!"
"It don't take 2 bullets to kill a deeah!"
"It don't take 1 bullet to kill a deeah!... use a rock! "
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
I made this prediction a long time ago .
At some point in our future . ANY handgun with a magazine will be illegal . 5 round mags that takes out almost 100 percent of the handguns . We can say this will never hold up in court ... What if it is never allowed to get to court. Think of that National recip bill ...This makes it illegal for anyone to enter unless we carry a wheel gun .
I am just saying Get yourself a good wheel gun that you can carry in the near future . Could be a run on them in the future . IF this keeps up .
. This act shall take effect immediately. 9
At some point in our future . ANY handgun with a magazine will be illegal . 5 round mags that takes out almost 100 percent of the handguns . We can say this will never hold up in court ... What if it is never allowed to get to court. Think of that National recip bill ...This makes it illegal for anyone to enter unless we carry a wheel gun .
I am just saying Get yourself a good wheel gun that you can carry in the near future . Could be a run on them in the future . IF this keeps up .
. This act shall take effect immediately. 9
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
Yeah @VietnamEraVet is probably right about FUAC proposing a limit of 3 or 4 just to not be outdone by NJ.
You can be sure that we haven't heard the last from Andy when it comes to people control.
While FUAC is hugging it out with the illegals, He will continue to stomp on the constitutional rights of the legal NY citizenry.
That's what Democrats do... And Andy wants to be the top Democrat.
You can be sure that we haven't heard the last from Andy when it comes to people control.
While FUAC is hugging it out with the illegals, He will continue to stomp on the constitutional rights of the legal NY citizenry.
That's what Democrats do... And Andy wants to be the top Democrat.
@thewheels
.308 Win
The cancer continues to spread.
Their current limit is 15 rounds and no grandfathered magazines. I don't think they are going to pass anymore laws and help the republicans.
hoodfu
.40 S&W
It's my understanding that the judge(s) said that loading 7 in a 10 round magazine was unconstitutional, not that 7 round magazines were bad. The 7 round magazine was increased back to 10 rounds when Cuomo/legislature basically saw that it would outlaw almost all handguns which wasn't their intended effect.
Bob
6.5 Creedmoor
If it were to make it to the Third Circuit and be upheld, it would certainly constitute a split between circuits that should be addressed by SCOTUS. However, they seem to not want to take another gun case as of late.
I meant to say “my revolver” (I only have one).
I can carry in NJ due to LEOSA. I’m in NJ at least 3-4 times a month, especially in the summer and usually over night. My mother has a house there.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
This just tips their hand.
If "all gunz iz bad," then the only acceptable round count is ZERO.
The Left is simply waxing their skis before they continue down the slippery slope of ever-decreasing round counts for "common sense" reasons. They know that crime is at "level x" with 10 round magazines. Once they get to 5 round magazines, crime will still be at level x. So, they'll push for a lower round count. Crime levels will not change. They will draw the conclusion that guns, with any round capacity, are the cause of crime. So...banning all guns is just a logical commons sense step.
The problem is...they are drawing a false conclusion and selling it in the complicit press. The correct conclusion is that we have a problem with criminals. We need to control criminals. Especially, illegal alien criminals. And...we need to exert the most control in historically "minority controlled" cities. Because....that's where the violence is.
If "all gunz iz bad," then the only acceptable round count is ZERO.
The Left is simply waxing their skis before they continue down the slippery slope of ever-decreasing round counts for "common sense" reasons. They know that crime is at "level x" with 10 round magazines. Once they get to 5 round magazines, crime will still be at level x. So, they'll push for a lower round count. Crime levels will not change. They will draw the conclusion that guns, with any round capacity, are the cause of crime. So...banning all guns is just a logical commons sense step.
The problem is...they are drawing a false conclusion and selling it in the complicit press. The correct conclusion is that we have a problem with criminals. We need to control criminals. Especially, illegal alien criminals. And...we need to exert the most control in historically "minority controlled" cities. Because....that's where the violence is.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
anyone with half a brain knows that restricting round count does not actually limit the number of rounds a criminal will use in a gun, so it only restricts the good guys. they pawn it off as if they are trying to restrict access to criminals by forcing good guys to go without "for the greater good" but they know damn well its just one step closer to single shots, then nothing.
eventually, either scotus has to step up to the plate and put an end to this or we need to "storm the castle" so to speak.
eventually, either scotus has to step up to the plate and put an end to this or we need to "storm the castle" so to speak.
I am pretty sure he called the 7 round limit arbitrary. Like why 7, no reason, unconstitutional. So he said 7 was unconstitutional and if NJ says 5 is constitutional then it would be split and a case could go before SCOTUS.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Some might prefer tar, feather, ignition........................
I am down with a good old fashion trial by the people and public lynching. I still believe in due process.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
So just pack magazines and cylinders with cream cheese and hope for the best.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
No. The argument was that coming up with the number 7 to put in a 10 rd magazine and not the magazine capacity itself was arbitrary according to the 2 corrupt judges.
If only 5 round magazines were legal, then loading only 3 would be an arbitrary number and the 5 rd magazine law would stand.
It was a bullshit decision since one can argue that under the same logic that choosing a 10 rd magazine instead of a 15 rd magazine is arbitrary under the same grounds. The refusal for SCOTUS to take the case is more proof of their corruption.
@nortatoga
If only 5 round magazines were legal, then loading only 3 would be an arbitrary number and the 5 rd magazine law would stand.
It was a bullshit decision since one can argue that under the same logic that choosing a 10 rd magazine instead of a 15 rd magazine is arbitrary under the same grounds. The refusal for SCOTUS to take the case is more proof of their corruption.
@nortatoga
You are wasting your time trying to inject legal arguments. U.S. Supreme Court does whatever it wants and they only use Constitution to find straws they can grasp to support unconstitutional decisions. There is no oversight to this institution. It is political and corrupt. Neither political party is interested in resolving 2nd amendment issue. This is why the court either refuses to hear 2nd amendment cases or renders Trojan horse decisions, like Heller.
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Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
The only check against the judicial branch is impeachment, unfortunately our government is so far gone right now that no one would ever dare impeach a member of the Supreme Court.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Corruption in all 3 branches has been the norm. I truly believe for the first time in many decades the executive branch isn't corrupt.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Ill say potus isnt corrupt and some of his staff, but thats,about as far as i can go. I have no faith in any others..
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
I'm sure the criminals are shitting in their pants over this one.