NY Lawmakers Drafting Bill That Would Allow Social Media Checks Before Gun Purchase

[Jmac00]

simple fix, use two computers or three. and just give them the "clean one" with all positive comments about social media

and what if the computer they want to check out is your business computer? what if the only computer you own is a desktop? and it has all your business, health and personal information you need for everyday work?

This is unworkable, period

 

[ArmedCorgi]

simple fix, use two computers or three. and just give them the "clean one" with all positive comments about social media

This is a misconception. What they will be looking at is not local on your computer or any computer you use (other that temp files, cookies, browser history and any downloads you have on that given system). Your internet search/site history also resides with your ISP (Spectrum, Comcast, Etc.) and other companies like Google, who log your IP with every search you do, plus Chrome...and your social media history is stored on Facebook's, Linkedin, Etc. servers. Not your local machine.

 

[Jmac00]

This is a misconception. What they will be looking at is not local on your computer or any computer you use (other that temp files, cookies, browser history and any downloads you have on that given system). Your internet search/site history also resides with your ISP (Spectrum, Comcast, Etc.) and other companies like Google, who log your IP with every search you do, plus Chrome...and your social media history is stored on Facebook's, Linkedin, Etc. servers. Not your local machine.

***they*** can do anything they want, I AM OUTA HERE in a couple years.
so what's to prevent me from buying a gun (let's say a 45-70) in Ohio and having it shipped to an FFL in Rochester? How they going to do this BS when the gun has already been purchased. Are out of state firearms stores going to take it back if you get denied because of an FB post?

 

[ArmedCorgi]

so what's to prevent me from buying a gun (let's say a 45-70) in Ohio and having it shipped to an FFL in Rochester? How they going to do this BS when the gun has already been purchased. Are out of state firearms stores going to take it back if you get denied because of an FB post?

Nothing. Except any denial would be treated the same as a NICS denial. My whole point is that you can throw away every computer you own even after bleach bitting them and it won't make a difference. All the damning evidence they need is stored elsewhere.

 

[Jmac00]

Nothing. Except any denial would be treated the same as a NICS denial. My whole point is that you can throw away every computer you own even after bleach bitting them and it won't make a difference. All the damning evidence they need is stored elsewhere.

so we should "go dark" on social media if we ever want to buy a gun again

 

[libertysnake]

so we should "go dark" on social media if we ever want to buy a gun again

This is already a reality. Free speech is long dead. The founders miscalculated and didn't anticipate the digital transformation of the town square into private hands.

 

[BDinPutnam]

All the damning evidence they need is stored elsewhere.

Do this all the time at work (though for civil litigation) and in fact I did it last week. Facebook, Instagram, Gmail. Skype is harder to collect (and Facebook to an extent). To name a few.

Stuff does remain on your machine but more so for mobile devices than computers as far as messaging and social media.

And again, underlying this is that the proposal doesn't even have LEO doing this, it has FFL's doing this.

Words fail.

 

[Bob]

so we should "go dark" on social media if we ever want to buy a gun again

I think we should "go dark" on social media anyway. We'd all be happier people.

 

[Truebeliever]

Can we begin the same process for ANY LEO or government employee who has posession or access to firearms, explosives, etc or would this just be more of "our laws" and "your laws"?

They are already trying that.

And make you wear a body camera that can be turned on remotely and record your conversations without your knowledge.

So the days of a cop giving a guy a break might be coming to an end

 

[Truebeliever]

It’s sad that Americans might have behave like dissents in countries like Iran, or those behind the Iron Curtain.

1984 is slowly becoming true.

 

[byron]

so they are going to be doing an illeagal search of your wifes and kids searches sounds like might be some lawsuits there. plus some people that I know don't have their routers passward pertected

 

[Deplorable Me]

China blacklists millions of people from booking flights as dystopian 'social credit' system introduced

Basically NY wants to use "social credits" to determine if you are a good party member or to deny you your 2A rights.

 

[BDinPutnam]

I'm thinking this is the soft toss to cover the coming BSACT II that's coming.

These idiots have to know this can't (or shouldn't) survive even the 2nd Circuit.

Full blown semiautomatic ban sails through immediately after.

 

[Bigfoot]

The criminals are going to be pissed off about this.
The gang bangers are not going to want to give up their
social media log on info. When they apply for, or renew, their NYS pistol permit.

Oh wait,,, nevermind.




Ya'll do realize that this is all about public safety,,, right?,,, right? ... LOL

 

[Deplorable Me]

Some people share computers.

 

[Marine Cpl]

There is no way around this if implemented unless you use a private browser like a Tor browser or similar and a VPN combined. Just using one isn't going to cut it.

You can't use Google, Bing, ect for questionable content. All your searches have to be conducted via other search engines like DuckDuckGo.

And then you run into the problem of not having anything to show them.

 

[Gonzobird]

Wonder how it will effect people, like me, who to this day still have been smart enough not to join any of the social media outlets mentioned in the bill.

 

[FCuomo]

This law is beyond unconstitutional. I know they don't understand, but even jerks have constitutional rights.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Wonder how it will effect people, like me, who to this day still have been smart enough not to join any of the social media outlets mentioned in the bill.

You still use google, no?

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I know they don't understand

I am now bouncing back and forth between thinking they don't understand what they are doing and they do understant what they are doing.
Either way, lets hope there are enough upstate dems that also see this as too far reaching and unnecessary and they stop it from becoming law. Besides that all we can hope for is that it even too much for the liberal courts here and they strike it down.

 

[Robin]

Cumo is your brother, and he's big. I never thought something like this kind of thinking would even be under consideration for an actual law, never. What has happened. We are past the time for torches and pitchforks.
Robin

 

[Marine Cpl]

I am now bouncing back and forth between thinking they don't understand what they are doing and they do understant what they are doing.
Either way, lets hope there are enough upstate dems that also see this as too far reaching and unnecessary and they stop it from becoming law. Besides that all we can hope for is that it even too much for the liberal courts here and they strike it down.

I think they don't understand. On the surface to an ignorant, unconstitutional mind that can't think two steps ahead, it looks like a good idea. We'll stop those that post things online like someone who says that he hates Jews or Blacks and wants to kill them.

It's emotional short-sighted thinking brought up by a low level liberal in NY.

 

[ProgSpear]

5 Myths of Tarring and Feathering - Journal of the American Revolution

 

[FrankenCub]

I think they don't understand. On the surface to an ignorant, unconstitutional mind that can't think two steps ahead, it looks like a good idea. We'll stop those that post things online like someone who says that he hates Jews or Blacks and wants to kill them.

It's emotional short-sighted thinking brought up by a low level liberal in NY.

At one time I thought that way. I truly believed they didn't think far enough ahead and didn't realize how bad their decisions and ideas were. No longer. I'm positive they know exactly what they are doing! Especially here in NY, where they know nothing will come of their over reach.

 

[Phazer]

This law is beyond unconstitutional. I know they don't understand, but even jerks have constitutional rights.

What's the problem? You'd just have to forfeit your 4th and 5th amendment rights (in addition to the current HIPAA waiver) in order to exercise your 2nd amendment rights.

Keep in mind, asking for a photo identification in order to vote is just too much.

 

[dsdmmat]

so we should "go dark" on social media if we ever want to buy a gun again

They are looking 3 years back. So buy 80% guns for the next 3 years and stay off the internet.

 

[Catskillkid]

Keep in mind, asking for a photo identification in order to vote is just too much.

This gets me EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

They want lists and background checks for just about EVERYTHING in life but not for voting. Or for entering the country. Those two things just don't matter apparently.

 

[Rocpo]

They are already trying that.

And make you wear a body camera that can be turned on remotely and record your conversations without your knowledge.

So the days of a cop giving a guy a break might be coming to an end

They are already DOING that. Each agency I've worked at has required me to show them my social media pages (of which I actually have none).

The second part is happening now too. Put one of those on me and EVERYONE I stop is getting every summons they deserve. I'm not dealing with the bullshit of "Well, you gave the black female a ticket, but not the white one? Why? Racism!"

 

[timboy]

Don't worry guys I'm sure the NRA is going to be behind us on this one......

 

[Gonzobird]

Don't worry guys I'm sure the NRA is going to be behind us on this one......

Funny... Let's see how the lawsuit against FUAC goes so they can sell thier insurance goes first.