AR Maglock and Hyperswitch legalities?

[RooftopKorean]

I was looking into these two items and was wondering if they are legal in NY or not? I believe they are legal in Commiefornia.

There are a few threads here but no definitive answer and all of them seem to go off topic.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

 

[GOYABEAN]

I was looking into these two items and was wondering if they are legal in NY or not? I believe they are legal in Commiefornia.

There are a few threads here but no definitive answer and all of them seem to go off topic.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

In land it's kinda roll of the dice that's how it's set up your guilty just for thinking of it

 

[RooftopKorean]

It's sad. I read at various other sources that they were pending a response from NYSP and the NYS AG on the legality but it nothing came from it as far as I can tell.

 

[GOYABEAN]

It's sad. I read at various other sources that they were pending a response from NYSP and the NYS AG on the legality but it nothing came from it as far as I can tell.

And more than likely won't you'll just get cricket sounds from them

 

[mca90guitar]

Can still drop and insert a new mag. I know several guys that use the ar maglock and they haven't had any issues at the range but it's a more risky option Imo.

Don't expect NY to clear things up anytime soon

 

[Calculon]

There are a few threads here but no definitive answer and all of them seem to go off topic.

Sounds about right.

 

[Acer-m14]

 

[RooftopKorean]

Nice to see that people find the need to degenerate this thread just like the others.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Nice to see that people find the need to degenerate this thread just like the others.

Huh?

 

[Doc8404]

Nice to see that people find the need to degenerate this thread just like the others.

WTF do you expect?

The answer is, seek legal council.

Coming on here and asking about legalities makes little sense.

 

[dsdmmat]

WTF do you expect?

The answer is, seek legal council.

Coming on here and asking about legalities makes little sense.

Come on Doc, it was a simple question, designed to generate lots of hate and discontent. Now you throw reasoning in the middle and screwed it all up.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Huh?

I've never heard degenerate used as a verb but it works.

 

[Edwardteach72]

I've never heard degenerate used as a verb but it works.

I mean it really does. Buttttt at the same time asking for legal advice after already seeing all the answers on exact same type of threads.... hoping different outcome maybe.... burn it to the fucking ground

 

[Saltwater60]

I wanted so bad to go with the armaglock, but decided against it because I determined it’s likely not legal. I argued the fact then a few guys on the other board showed me the light. I wouldn’t do it.

 

[mca90guitar]

I wanted so bad to go with the armaglock, but decided against it because I determined it’s likely not legal. I argued the fact then a few guys on the other board showed me the light. I wouldn’t do it.

Yeah, the cross armory version and quick pins would be great.

 

[RooftopKorean]

WTF do you expect?

The answer is, seek legal council.

Coming on here and asking about legalities makes little sense.

How about some civilized commentary? Perhaps some useful information that could help the entire NY gun community since other threads got derailed but I guess not.

I guess that's too much to ask from what should be a group of grown ass adults.

 

[Edwardteach72]

How about some civilized commentary? Perhaps some useful information that could help the entire NY gun community since other threads got derailed but I guess not.

I guess that's too much to ask from what should be a group of grown ass adults.

Again you specifically said that you have read the other threads on this exact same topic (change out product zipidy doday, for zapodiy tida) and didnt like the answers so what ask again hoping that you would get the answer you wanted?

How hard is it to realize there is NO APPROVED anything here in NY.


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[RooftopKorean]

Again you specifically said that you have read the other threads on this exact same topic (change out product zipidy doday, for zapodiy tida) and didnt like the answers so what ask again hoping that you would get the answer you wanted

I said that there were not definitive answers and other threads get derailed. That's far different from not liking answers.

 

[Jem45472]

Same questions turns into a shit show on all forums. New Yorks laws are vague and you will get no definite answers. We've all had these arguments for the last 6 years and still no answers.

 

[Marine Cpl]

This gun shop owner would have been convicted. His defense of using an MR2 as a fixed magazine was thrown out by the court. He tried to use definitions for fixed magazine from other states and the court denied it.

The only reason he wasn't convicted was because the police gained unlawful entry for search and seizure.

People v Perkins

 

[Deplorable Me]

Nice to see that people find the need to degenerate this thread just like the others.

NYS government has made a political career of marginalizing it's productive citizens. You'll have to pardon the crew if they act mutinous, pissed off and non cooperative. It's all part of Andy's plan. Please consider, this conversation is not held in PA, OH, WV, NC, SC, AK, AR, MI.....

Some still have dreams of freedom squashed daily by the libtards and progressives.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I read at various other sources that they were pending a response from NYSP and the NYS AG on the legality but it nothing came from it as far as I can tell.

This is because NYSP and the AG do not interpret the laws, they enforce them.

 

[RooftopKorean]

This gun shop owner would have been convicted. His defense of using an MR2 as a fixed magazine was thrown out by the court. He tried to use definitions for fixed magazine from other states and the court denied it.

The only reason he wasn't convicted was because the police gained unlawful entry for search and seizure.

People v Perkins

Thanks for that information. It was an interesting read to say the least after filtering out the legalese.

It's sad that even a state like Commiefornia seems to have more clarification on the use of such devices.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

It's sad that even a state like Commiefornia seems to have more clarification on the use of such devices.

NY is intentionally vague, intentionally.

 

[Edwardteach72]

NY is intentionally vague, intentionally.

This right here, its worded they way it is on purpose

 

[Gonzobird]

Looks like a removable Mag gun to me.

 

[ManrisFrack]

This gun shop owner would have been convicted. His defense of using an MR2 as a fixed magazine was thrown out by the court. He tried to use definitions for fixed magazine from other states and the court denied it.

The only reason he wasn't convicted was because the police gained unlawful entry for search and seizure.

People v Perkins

You don't know that he would have been convicted for using the MR2. In fact the court specifically said it "declines to make a determination as to whether the installation of an MR2 renders a rifle inside or outside the scope of the definition of assault rifle."

Remember, this was a motion based solely on the Grand Jury proceedings. In a Grand Jury the accused doesn't get to present a defense. The court basically said that since the defendant's claims were not presented to the Grand Jury, they didn't apply. This is NOT a definitive ruling on the legality of the MR2 as you imply. Had this gone to trial, Perkins' counsel would almost certainly have presented the other states' definitions as well the firearm examiner's report to the jury as part of his defense.

To date, there is NO precedent establishing the legal status of a rifle equipped with an MR2. Period.

However, we DO know from the Perkins case that the state AG doesn't think the MR2 is legal. Do you want be the test case that actually goes to trial? Or do you want the state to win the MR2 battle, not by fighting the battle but by chilling its use through the mere threat of prosecution? It's a choice each man needs to make for himself.

 

[Westchestergun30]

I say NOT GTG....has the ability to accept a detachable magazine (a defining feature of an “assault weapon “ according to NYS) IF the receivers are closed and no mag is inserted first.

 

[GOYABEAN]

How about some civilized commentary? Perhaps some useful information that could help the entire NY gun community since other threads got derailed but I guess not.

I guess that's too much to ask from what should be a group of grown ass adults.

Useful information remove start from scratch just don't replace with the same putrid root

 

[RooftopKorean]

Useful information remove start from scratch just don't replace with the same putrid root

That would be amazing. One can only wish the day we could have a red 2A friendly Governor.