Talking about prepping will get you Dead

[Diesel Tech]

Funny how prepping is discussed and even bragged about by prepper's. I have X amount of ammo, I store two tons of MREs in my basement, I have this, I have that are all common narratives. Some even think they'll survive in a remote hole with an air vent and steel door sitting on a bucket with an AR.
My parents survived post war Germany and told me the stories of what really happens when the shit hits the fan, and those stories are much different than what your reading online by people who've never been in a society where everything stops.
Your UPS man might be the one who kills you and yours in the night. Those scary ghetto people in the urban areas will be the least of most people's problems unless your in a fifty mile radius of such an area. It will be your good ole pickup driving, church going, flag waving all American neighbors that you wave to every day on the way to the post office that will more than likely get you.
Even if somehow you've kept your prepping totally secret you'll very likely be sniffed out by a society who's only function will be to find people who seem to be doing better than them and how they're doing it.
Young people will be especially dangerous. Any type of rural household with horses, or any livestock out in the woods will be vulnerable. These types of farms, ranches will be very desirable for hungry people looking for protein while providing an easy night time target.
Most here don't realize that your prepping is already making you a target.
You won't be able to keep the hungry masses at bay for long. You won't be able to live off of your stored food for long. You'll never find a place in America that's remote enough to hide out. Those people who you think are going to band together with you will fail you.
In the event of a real SHTF situation everything you planned for, imagined, read about will more than likely go to shit in the first 3 days.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Speak for yourself.

 

[MilesTeg]

So we give up?

 

[Diesel Tech]

Speak for yourself.

I always do

 

[Diesel Tech]

So we give up?

Never, but I think people are wasting resources and money because they're being ill advised by profiteers and people who've never lived thru a breakdown in society. When it finally happens (and it will) you'll have people who are real experts after three weeks of an all stops situation.

 

[MilesTeg]

Never, but I think people are wasting resources and money because they're being ill advised by profiteers and people who've never lived thru a breakdown in society. When it finally happens (and it will) you'll have people who are real experts after three weeks of an all stops situation.

I will agree with that but some of the stuff in your original I don't agree with.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

Never, but I think people are wasting resources and money because they're being ill advised by profiteers and people who've never lived thru a breakdown in society. When it finally happens (and it will) you'll have people who are real experts after three weeks of an all stops situation.

This is a book written by someone with real actual experience on the matter. It's a good resource if you haven't read it. https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Survival-Manual-Surviving-Economic/dp/9870563457

 

[Bustedknees]

I've watched Red Dawn at least 3 times so I'm good.

 

[Jmac00]

You won't be able to keep the hungry masses at bay for long. You won't be able to live off of your stored food for long. You'll never find a place in America that's remote enough to hide out. Those people who you think are going to band together with you will fail you.

LOL, you have no idea where my BOL is, you can't get there by road. You need a boat, or a snowmobile/ATV in the winter. actually, the place is vulnerable from outsiders in the winter. But, with no ice on the lake, you'll be very hard pressed to get to me and my family. The entire place is surrounded by 1200 acres of swamp. Im pretty confident we can defend the place

 

[Deplorable Me]

As Darwin use to say, "let the culling begin. "

 

[tirwin1]

This is a book written by someone with real actual experience on the matter. It's a good resource if you haven't read it. https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Survival-Manual-Surviving-Economic/dp/9870563457

Highly recommended. I bought an extra copy to share with people.

 

[pjzwtl]

I've watched Red Dawn at least 3 times so I'm good.

The original one or the remake? If its the original your GTG.

 

[Bustedknees]

The original one or the remake? If its the original your GTG.

I've yet to see the remake offered on Spectrum, Netflix, or Prime.. Was curious to see if Powers Booth made an appearance .. If not they're always offering Southern Comfort reruns

 

[GOYABEAN]

So what your trying to say is don't bother prepping just pillage from the ones that do

 

[GOPerfect]

Never, but I think people are wasting resources and money because they're being ill advised by profiteers and people who've never lived thru a breakdown in society. When it finally happens (and it will) you'll have people who are real experts after three weeks of an all stops situation.

I can absolutely get on board with some of what I quoted. You OP however, not so much. Certain situations, there are definitely places far enough off the grid that people will be safe. Strongholds with like mined people would stand a very good chance of survival.

 

[SomeSoldier]

I think the best thing to take away from OPs post is, you will find out very quick who your enemies are.

And as always live by the plus 1 theory.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

"Young people will be especially dangerous."

Today's youth will commit suicide 12 minutes after their smart phones go black. Those that don't will starve to death.

 

[Celt]

At large I think it's important to keep what kind of preparations you do to yourself. However a lot of what you say has merit. People will very quickly find out what kind of preps you have when they see that you're still looking healthy and not wasting away. Then they will band together with other people not doing so well and they will come and try to take your shit. Ideally a place far away from people with a large group of like-minded individuals with good preparations and a plan will increase your chances of survival.

In the end there is no perfect plan for how to survive, there are just so many different possibilities of what can go wrong. Your best bet is to learn skills needed to survive, prepare the best you can, stockpile what you can, and be vigilant.

Although not stockpiling any materials would just be silly in my opinion, but I wouldn't expect that having 20 years worth of materials will guarantee that you're going to live 20 years.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

So what your trying to say is don't bother prepping just pillage from the ones that do

Yes it's definitely better to just do nothing....

Why bother trying??



I bet there are a lot of people right now in Venezuela who wish they did more when times were good...

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

At large I think it's important to keep what kind of preparations you do to yourself. However a lot of what you say has merit. People will very quickly find out what kind of preps you have when they see that you're still looking healthy and not wasting away. Then they will band together with other people not doing so well and they will come and try to take your shit. Ideally a place far away from people with a large group of like-minded individuals with good preparations and a plan will increase your chances of survival.

In the end there is no perfect plan for how to survive, there are just so many different possibilities of what can go wrong. Your best bet is to learn skills needed to survive, prepare the best you can, stockpile what you can, and be vigilant.

Although not stockpiling any materials would just be silly in my opinion, but I wouldn't expect that having 20 years worth of materials will guarantee that you're going to live 20 years.

This is a balanced and realistic approach.

 

[Darth]

I already have my plan.

I'm going to just submit to a group of super hot women and be their slave for eternity.

It will be harsh, but somebody has to to it.

 

[Podmonkey]

Actually it has been logically opined that the only real course is to form a community for purposes of mutual defense and cooperative survival.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

“Like minded people”

No fucking way. It will be everyone for themselves. Everyone will take advantage of any and all situations that will enhance their position.

They will fuck you for a number of reasons. #1 being fear........

 

[Gonzobird]

“Like minded people”

No fucking way. It will be everyone for themselves. Everyone will take advantage of any and all situations that will enhance their position.

They will fuck you for a number of reasons. #1 being fear........

In the beginning of whatever crisis that takes this comfy world away yes they will. The beginning will be survival of the smartest. All these prepper people are just targets. The big cities and high population density areas will bea shit show as panic and disease set in.

If the world can recover from whatever we did to fuck shit up that people are killing each other for food than after awhile communities will start and be governed by the smartest.

If not then we will tear each other apart until there are to few people that geography can separate for long periods of time.

 

[Vapor]

Survival of the "fittest" is a very humanistic centric view. It's the prideful idea that man forges his own destiny, and of course many believe themselves to be the "fittest". Darwin himself never used this term, although oft quoted.

The older I get, the more I see that genetic drift has a huge impact on populations. That is, that random events or things beyond an organisms control often plays a huge factor in who survives...


Also, I find it fascinating that most people who are "preppers" are deeply religious types who believe in God and Heaven. There awaits them a wonderful afterlife. Why so steadfastly hold onto this one then? They also tend to quote passages about who is fittest and all that...not a very Christ centric rationale.

 

[Marine Cpl]

That's why I don't tell anyone shit. I don't print. I don't put long guns in obvious gun cases for my neighbors to see when I put them in my car. I don't put "Look at me!" pro-gun stickers on my car. The only people that know that I'm armed is my family, myself and all you clowns obviously. No one else. No one else knows what I buy except the government.

As far as supplies go, you have to be smart. You have to go out there in a SHTF environment and beg just like everyone else unless you are alone in the wilderness. Wear dirty clothes. Grow your beard out. Look disheveled. Carry a concealed weapon. Don't tell anyone you have one. Don't wear multicam. Look grey.

At night around midnight when everyone is sleeping, you then eat your stored food.

 

[Marine Cpl]

So we give up?

No. You just don't tell anyone what you are doing.

 

[kev74]

As Darwin use to say, "let the culling begin. "

Darwin never said that.

If he did, he would have told me.

 

[Twogunwilly]

 

[ArmedCorgi]

I fear, we've been trolled.