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[Deplorable Me]

Civil Rights Attorney Blasts Cuomo For Discrimination Against Gun Owners

Civil rights attorney Paloma A. Capanna blasted Cuomo for discriminating against law-abiding gun owners through excessive reporting of patients to the FBI.

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Back in high school (70's era) we learned that the Communist government eliminated internal opposition by declaring them mentally ill and detaining them in hospitals for their own safety. No trial, just the sign off by a state doctor.

I can't think of a single gun owner who is crazy about Andy or NY state in general. So technically you're all sane.

 

[ProgSpear]

"Who are they? Are they these extreme conservatives who are right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay? Is that who they are? Because if that’s who they are and they’re the extreme conservatives, they have no place in the state of New York, because that’s not who New Yorkers are. " -FUAC!!!

 

[pramaglia]

 

[Robin]

FUAC!
Robin

 

[kev74]

Beating your wife? -No problem!
Voluntarily going to the doctor? -Problem!

Way to go Monkeyface!

 

[Bigfoot]

TL;DR --- there is no fight for gun (2A) rights in NY... This is not a fight... The NY Democrats do not have to fight.



Bad news,,, We are all stuck with Cuomo until he decides he no longer wants to be king.
After Cuomo?,,, It will only be more of the same, maybe even worse.

I find it ridiculous that "some" members here sarcastically mock other members that have moved to a free state.
Or mock the ones that post that they want to or are planning for..
They call it running away from the fight... LOL

I hate to break it to ya... There is no fight...
I attended various rallies, emailed politicians, donated money to the NRA and SCOPE, voted, and more.
What were the results? --- Nothing... well except for the gun control bills still coming up one after the other in Albany. Nothing we did even slowed them down the least little bit.

Of course I was never guaranteed any positive results. But looking back on it. I wasted my breath, I wasted my time,
and most importantly I wasted my money... And started to go through life angry over all of this bullshit.
I will not ever do that again, at least not here in NY anyway.

The progressive Democrats have a 100% stranglehold on this state.
There is no fight,,, There certainly is no fight from their perspective... Just us bitching.
There is not even a minor dust up as far as they are concerned... Don't believe me? ... Just ask them.

They will just laugh and pass more unconstitutional gun "people" control laws and the courts will automatically side
with the gun grabbers and not protect our constitutional rights... THAT IS NOT A FIGHT.

Am I wrong? Are there things that can realistically be done to reverse the anti 2A course in NY?
If I am wrong let me know... I certainly do not have all the answers.

What else can be done, if anything?



Why am I derailing every thread that I have been in today?
I will go stand in the fucking corner again.

 

[Jmac00]

TL;DR --- there is no fight for gun (2A) rights in NY... This is not a fight... The NY Democrats do not have to fight.



Bad news,,, We are all stuck with Cuomo until he decides he no longer wants to be king.
After Cuomo?,,, It will only be more of the same, maybe even worse.

I find it ridiculous that "some" members here sarcastically mock other members that have moved to a free state.
Or mock the ones that post that they want to or are planning for..
They call it running away from the fight... LOL

I hate to break it to ya... There is no fight...
I attended various rallies, emailed politicians, donated money to the NRA and SCOPE, voted, and more.
What were the results? --- Nothing... well except for the gun control bills still coming up one after the other in Albany. Nothing we did even slowed them down the least little bit.

Of course I was never guaranteed any positive results. But looking back on it. I wasted my breath, I wasted my time,
and most importantly I wasted my money... And started to go through life angry over all of this bullshit.
I will not ever do that again, at least not here in NY anyway.

The progressive Democrats have a 100% stranglehold on this state.
There is no fight,,, There certainly is no fight from their perspective... Just us bitching.
There is not even a minor dust up as far as they are concerned... Don't believe me? ... Just ask them.

They will just laugh and pass more unconstitutional gun "people" control laws and the courts will automatically side
with the gun grabbers and not protect our constitutional rights... THAT IS NOT A FIGHT.

Am I wrong? Are there things that can realistically be done to reverse the anti 2A course in NY?
If I am wrong let me know... I certainly do not have all the answers.

What else can be done, if anything?



Why am I derailing every thread that I have been in today?
I will go stand in the fucking corner again.

well said, very well said.

I have been saying this for some time now. There is no fighting this state government. Emperor Corruption will do whatever he wants, because he has New York city wrapped around his little finger.

 

[pramaglia]

There are an estimated 4.5 million gun owners in NY State. Apparently half of them do not bother to vote. If they did I'm sure that Como would not be the governor and there certainly would be no Unsafe Act.

 

[GOPerfect]

There are an estimated 4.5 million gun owners in NY State. Apparently half of them do not bother to vote. If they did I'm sure that Como would not be the governor and there certainly would be no Unsafe Act.

Been saying this for years. NY voters suck sweaty balls.

 

[oc shooter]

Well there is arguing big foots post me personally will never give up the fight while I’ve thought of moving to New Hampshire and still may it truly
Pisses me off that I have to run from a state that I love

 

[Phazer]

Pisses me off that I have to run from a state that I love

The real problem is that over the past decades, this state has run away from you.

 

[cgrutt]

@Bigfoot hopefully we'll get some good news after Dec 2nd...

 

[M_F]

There are an estimated 4.5 million gun owners in NY State. Apparently half of them do not bother to vote. If they did I'm sure that Como would not be the governor and there certainly would be no Unsafe Act.

How many are pro 2A though? How many are turncoat fudds? Many anti gunners own firearms.

 

[Bigfoot]

@Bigfoot hopefully we'll get some good news after Dec 2nd...

What would be awesome is if along with a favorable ruling.
Also a requirement that in 2A cases, courts are to apply strict scrutiny.

That would get things going the opposite direction.

Being that the court case is not being heard in a NY court.
Maybe I (we) can have a little hope that justice will finally prevail.

Remember the whole Mother Jones thing? ... What a joke.

 

[cgrutt]

@Bigfoot exactly my thinking as well...

 

[Bigfoot]

Well there is arguing big foots post me personally will never give up the fight while I’ve thought of moving to New Hampshire and still may it truly
Pisses me off that I have to run from a state that I love

I do not think that it's a fight... sorry
Maybe a push back but not a fight.
There was a time that I thought that I was fighting against tyranny.
Then I realized that it isn't much of a fight... Then I realized that it is not a fight at all... YMMV

I will give an analogy of why I think that. Lets say a 6'6" 280lb big man "starts" a fight with a 3'6" 90lb dwarf...
The dwarf fights for his rights and gets his teeth knocked out. That is not really a fight. That is just a bully exerting his will on the Dwarf

Wait there is more....

The Dwarf takes the big guy to a corrupt NY court to sue for damages. Then the corrupt judge(s) rule in favor of the big guy... And then the big guy counter sues the dwarf, claiming the dwarf's face punched the big guy in the fist.
After a minute of oral arguments the corrupt judge(s) rule in favor of the big guy yet again.
That's not really a fight IMO, that is just going through the motions in a corrupt state.

IMO Cuomo's NY UNSAFE Act should of been repealed in it's entirety right from the start. For the lone reason that Cuomo improperly used the Message of Necessity .... You all know that THERE WAS NO EMERGENCY!

That's my thoughts on the situation anyway...

I do not consider moving out of NY either running or being chased away.
I do consider that looking at the situation here in NY the reality is things will only get worse.
What's more likely? .. Some gun control laws are repealed? .. Or, Some additional gun control laws are signed into law?

I only see 2 options.
1.) Stay in NY, Some people have their personal reasons to do so... I get it.
And then just deal with being controlled by the anti gun Democrats.

2.) Move to a state that is not controlled by Democrats. Which IMO also offers more positive things than just the 2A issue... That is a win, win, to me.

I really need to learn how to get my point across in 3 sentences or less... LOL

Hopefully things will go well for us on December 2nd... FUAC

 

[Defilade]

I do not think that it's a fight... sorry
Maybe a push back but not a fight.
There was a time that I thought that I was fighting against tyranny.
Then I realized that it isn't much of a fight... Then I realized that it is not a fight at all... YMMV

I will give an analogy of why I think that. Lets say a 6'6 280lb big man "starts" a fight with a 3'6 90lb dwarf...
The dwarf fights for what he believes in and gets his teeth knocked out. That is not really a fight. That is just a bully exerting his will on the Dwarf

Wait there is more....

The Dwarf takes the big guy to a corrupt NY court to sue for damages. Then the corrupt judge(s) rule in favor of the big guy... And then the big guy counter sues the dwarf, claiming the dwarf's face punched the big guy in the fist.
After a minute of oral arguments the corrupt judge(s) rule in favor of the big guy yet again.
That's not really a fight IMO, that is just going through the motions in a corrupt state.

IMO Cuomo's NY UNSAFE Act should of been repealed in it's entirety right from the start. For the lone reason that Cuomo improperly used the Message of Necessity .... You all know that THERE WAS NO EMERGENCY!

That's my thoughts on the situation anyway...

I do not consider moving out of NY either running or being chased away.
I do consider that looking at the situation here in NY the reality is things will get worse.
What's more likely? .. Some gun control laws are repealed? .. Or, Some more gun control laws are signed into law?

I only see 2 options.
1.) Stay in NY, Some people have their personal reasons to do so... I get it.
And then just deal with being controlled by the anti gun Democrats.

2.) Move to a state that is not controlled by Democrats. Which IMO also offers more positive things than just the 2A issue... That is a win, win, to me.

I really need to learn how to get my point across in 3 sentences or less... LOL

Hopefully things will go well for us on December 2nd... FUAC

What you state makes a lot of sense yet now we are all seeing red flag laws popping up in numerous states. Leaving NY (Which I will be doing) looks as if it will only buy you some time before this anti-gun crap creaps into all the other states. All this Anti-Gun stuff needs to get in the courts! Red Flag laws, Un-Safe etc.... The Courts just sit of their hands!

 

[Bigfoot]

What you state makes a lot of sense yet now we are all seeing red flag laws popping up in numerous states. Leaving NY (Which I will be doing) looks as if it will only buy you some time before this anti-gun crap creaps into all the other states. All this Anti-Gun stuff needs to get in the courts! Red Flag laws, Un-Safe etc.... The Courts just sit of their hands!

- "looks as if it will only buy you some time" ... that's very true.

- "All this Anti-Gun stuff needs to get in the courts! Red Flag laws, Un-Safe etc." ... Yes, that is long over due.
IIRC it has been 10 years since the SCOTUS has took on a 2A case.

If strict scrutiny has to be applied after December 2nd... That would kick Cuomo right in the nuts.

 

[prambo]

I don't trust SCROTUM on anything, absolutely nothing. Just hacks-in-black with more power than they should have.

 

[Catskillkid]

What you state makes a lot of sense yet now we are all seeing red flag laws popping up in numerous states. Leaving NY (Which I will be doing) looks as if it will only buy you some time before this anti-gun crap creaps into all the other states. All this Anti-Gun stuff needs to get in the courts! Red Flag laws, Un-Safe etc.... The Courts just sit of their hands!

I will never say to anyone thinking of moving out of state that they're making the wrong decision. But the reality is that they're just buying time. Virginia has gone blue and it looks like in a generation or less Texas may follow suit. I could move out to my uncle's ranch in Wyoming and probably not have to worry too much about gun control for most of the rest of my days. But the tentacles of tyranny are seeping in from every corner.

We, meaning all freedom loving Americans, need to make a stand. Where you choose to do that, slave state or free state (aka soon to be slave state) is up to you.

 

[Jmac00]

I will never say to anyone thinking of moving out of state that they're making the wrong decision. But the reality is that they're just buying time. Virginia has gone blue and it looks like in a generation or less Texas may follow suit. I could move out to my uncle's ranch in Wyoming and probably not have to worry too much about gun control for most of the rest of my days. But the tentacles of tyranny are seeping in from every corner.

We, meaning all freedom loving Americans, need to make a stand. Where you choose to do that, slave state or free state (aka soon to be slave state) is up to you.

thats because a lot of liberals are moving to those states, a lot of NY'rs have moved south and a lot of Californians have moved to Texas. thats why Im going mobile, I'll just keep moving until I find a place I like