Celt
.338 Win Mag
Police at large can earn alot of trust from the citizenry by speaking out like this.
2nd cop speaks out about the tyranny
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Police at large can earn alot of trust from the citizenry by speaking out like this.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Wonder what HIS next career will be.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Hopefully more come out. And hopefully those that do come out realize that 2A rights are just as important as 1A rights. Because it would make no sense to be adamant about 1A rights but collar someone over carrying without a license.
carpediem
.338 Win Mag
The cracks are starting to widen, and the boogaloo may spill out if the tyrants don't realize the boundaries of tolerance........
Good for him and good video.
There are cops like this all across the fruited plain. The more that speak up loudly and publicly, the more eyes will be opened.
The more that speak openly, the less department heads and elected elite will be able to make them silent.
Nearly all that I know are very similar to this cop and the one from a week ago.
A few speak up here and there, more that speak, will cause others to step up.
I do understand why so many are quiet. Protection of family is just as important to cops as it is to others.
I wonder how many in other professions are willing to throw everything away? I wonder how many would be willing to sacrifice everything they have? How many are willing to lose their homes and put their families on the street? These are very important questions to ask.
Very easy to hide behind a keyboard and say this, that and the other.
There are cops like this all across the fruited plain. The more that speak up loudly and publicly, the more eyes will be opened.
The more that speak openly, the less department heads and elected elite will be able to make them silent.
Nearly all that I know are very similar to this cop and the one from a week ago.
A few speak up here and there, more that speak, will cause others to step up.
I do understand why so many are quiet. Protection of family is just as important to cops as it is to others.
I wonder how many in other professions are willing to throw everything away? I wonder how many would be willing to sacrifice everything they have? How many are willing to lose their homes and put their families on the street? These are very important questions to ask.
Very easy to hide behind a keyboard and say this, that and the other.
And another that agrees with us.
All Covid-19 did was to reinforce what Benjamin Franklin said decades ago - "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
A quote that unfortunately many people do not know due to schools no longer teaching proper education and instilling American values, ignorance or both.
A quote that unfortunately many people do not know due to schools no longer teaching proper education and instilling American values, ignorance or both.
I'd rather be employed than fired for bending over to earn "trust" of a handful of random people when reality is the majority of those who don't trust the cops are overwhelmingly brainwashed fools who never will, typically because they ascribe to racial fear-mongering.
FYI, these threads are probably better off combined. They're basically the same.
Paxal
.223 Rem
Wow. I’m glad I don’t live in your patrol area anymore. (Not that the cops out here are any better.)
I take it that you have not really read his posts. Society could only wish there were more like him out on patrol and in supervisor positions.
As for the trust of the people; it is extremely low on my scale of importance. I am decent to all that I encounter, I do not violate rights of the people; if they decide not to put trust in Law Enforcement, that is on the people, not us.
Couldn’t care less.
I have a job. I may be doing exactly what this guy is talking about, you have no clue as that’s not what my statement said. His righteous need to verbalize it, on video, is going to get him fired.
He earned your respect, which basically means nothing. I’m still earning a paycheck and still out here possibly doing what he was talking about.
Clearer now? I tend not to speak like a kindergartener as the audience here is mostly smart enough to understand adult speak.
I know what I’ve done to support gun rights. I don’t tell those stories here to earn you guy’s respect because I’m a not a fool and I have bills to pay.
If you prefer cops who can’t stop themselves from breaking department policy through ass-kissing videos that solve nothing, so be it.
Celt
.338 Win Mag
I know where you stand, and I know there are plenty of good guys on the job, but there are people that are on the opposite end of the spectrum too (like any profession out there).
The "trust" between LE and the citizenry seems to have been damaged badly over the years due to politicians, the leftist media that sells hate and chaos to make money, along with the fact that everyone has a video camera on them now, so bad behavior doesnt go as unnoticed as it did in the past. So when I say trust, I mean the relationship between those in LE and the people they work around.
Alot of people, including regular people that are not anti authority/anti government, have a distrust of LE at large, and Im talking about regular/non criminal folks. That means a distrust in the system, not individuals.
My whole point was that when people hear police speaking about defending peoples rights and not wanting to obey orders to charge people with crimes for violating executive orders (especially when politicians are releasing violent criminals from jail, supposedly due to covid) it will inspire more respect for the profession. You may not care about that, but having more people that respect you means less people that are against you.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
It takes a lot of courage to speak out like that. Knowing you can be fired and lose everything . If the system is going to punish you for doing or saying the right thing then what good is the system?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And this officer speaking out like this may open the eyes of another officer who is ignorant or on the fence of enforcing these violations. So to say that it was useless is wrong.
Let's hope others follow
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
There was once a job we had in an underground river tube that required the use of a train to take contractors and material in their to repair it. The contractors wore respirators while they chipped away concrete creating silica dust while the 2 men who actually operated the train weren’t issued any. When they complained, the crew was replaced with another crew. Some crews did the job with nothing and others complained and were replaced. The Union was no help. It wasn’t until one crew called the news that the job got shut down and crews refused to take the train into the river tube until they were trained and issued respirators. The union finally got involved after the news story broke out.
I do not remember the details of that crew getting punished for doing that which was a violation. But at the end of the day, people that would have blindly gone down there without PPE, refused to do so. The news story, the mass refusal of crews going down there, and the final union involvement, rectified the situation.
I do not remember the details of that crew getting punished for doing that which was a violation. But at the end of the day, people that would have blindly gone down there without PPE, refused to do so. The news story, the mass refusal of crews going down there, and the final union involvement, rectified the situation.
My point is that these videos are not the way to do that. These videos are great ways to get fired, that’s it. And fired cops cannot accomplish anything.
Another “win” that doesn’t pay the bills and in reality doesn’t help anyone.
...unless of course the cop he inspires also learned from the mistake of videos like these and keeps their mouth shut about their new found views.
Celt
.338 Win Mag
I hear you, and like I said I know where you stand. I can appreciate how you are doing your thing from the inside. I also appreciate guys like this that are putting everything at risk to speak out for what they believe is right. And hopefully, with pressure they will be able to keep their jobs. It's got to start somewhere, why not here.
Celt
.338 Win Mag
Heres a sheriff.
www.breitbart.com
Watch: MI Sheriff Dismantles Gretchen Whitmer Executive Orders
A Michigan sheriff simply told residents why his department will not be enforcing Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's executive orders.
www.breitbart.com
Heres a sheriff.
Watch: MI Sheriff Dismantles Gretchen Whitmer Executive Orders
A Michigan sheriff simply told residents why his department will not be enforcing Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's executive orders.
See now that’s different. He’s his department’s spokesperson. That’s great.
Shadow2
6.5 Creedmoor
That really is a great quote, but when you read that quote in the context in which it was said, it has nothing to do with preserving rights which was a bit of a downer when i read it.
I am fully aware the context it was originally coined/used by Benjamin Franklin in regards to the Pennsylvania Assembly and the Penn family for taxation of funds for frontier defense.
It may have been used to be pro-taxation against the Penn family and the colonial governor chosen by the family but it still stood for defiance against poor governance.
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Paxal
.223 Rem
Your response implied strongly that you would put your paycheck ahead of your oath, that is what I was replying to, and that is the problem with so many cops (and politicians, et al), the paycheck takes priority. You may be just as “good” as this cop is, I can’t say. I was responding to the inference you made. The cop in question put his position out there and paid the price, but, did not back down. Yes, that is worthy of respect.
Be a good cop. That’s all anyone can ask of you.
Paxal
.223 Rem
I have read some, but not all. I admit that. I am responding to the inference in what he is saying here, now. I will be the first to say that I don’t know if I am correct or incorrect - just replying to what was said in that one post. In fact, I hope that I am wrong. We need more good cops, and no, it is not just a paycheck job.
Nope, it didn’t. You just didn’t read it correctly.
Paxal
.223 Rem
In that case, I stand corrected and you have my apology for making an assumption that was an inaccurate characterization of your intentions and behavior. Be safe.