Anyone else worried about the 2020 POTUS election?

[Darth]

Federal bump stock ban set to go into effect Tuesday even as gun-rights group appeals regulation to Supreme Court

A national ban on bump stocks is set to go into effect Tuesday, even as one of the gun-rights groups fighting the ban moved Monday to appeal the regulation to the U.S. Supreme Court.

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I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record.Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 Jul 2, 2000


No, wait, let me guess, "what he actually meant was..."

Or...but muh Biden.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Trump will sign an AWB the moment it hits his desk.

Biden will sign an AWB the moment it hits his desk.

So I'm not voting for them.

" :O R U Crazy M8!?"

I guess he missed the bit where I specifically said it was about more than the 2A for me.

C'EST la guerre.

 

[Chevusa]

Federal bump stock ban set to go into effect Tuesday even as gun-rights group appeals regulation to Supreme Court

A national ban on bump stocks is set to go into effect Tuesday, even as one of the gun-rights groups fighting the ban moved Monday to appeal the regulation to the U.S. Supreme Court.

www.google.com

I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record.Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102 Jul 2, 2000


No, wait, let me guess, "what he actually meant was..."

Or...but muh Biden.

SO what would you do as President after 150 people were just gunned down? Say sorry too bad? The President has to work with both sides to get anything done. So answer what would you do?

 

[BDinPutnam]

SO what would you do as President after 150 people were just gunned down? Say sorry too bad? The President has to work with both sides to get anything done. So answer what would you do?

Not write laws from the Executive side, to start.

 

[Darth]

what would you do as President after 150 people were just gunned down? Say sorry too bad?

Correct.

 

[Darth]

Not write laws from the Executive side, to start.

I was going to go with "defend the constitution specifically when it needs it the most."

 

[Marine Cpl]

The correct answer after a shooting is to do nothing. Which is what he has done other than banning bump stocks to pander to the left which I’m not happy with.

 

[Chevusa]

What is this Constitution you speak of? Asking for Joe.

 

[GOPerfect]

My turn to ask a question in regards to the OP...

With this upcoming election, what is it that is so important to you? The individual voter.

What issues are the most important?

These issues that are so important, why do you think one candidate is better than the next?

Ms. Jorgensen, for example, has some really good ideas. There is plenty that she has to say that I find important and worthy of conversation, but then she loses me at the Open Boarder thing.

Joe Biden, lost cause in my opinion due to his hatred of our laws and our way of life.

So, what is key for you, the voter?

 

[SmallGameAddict]

My turn to ask a question in regards to the OP...

With this upcoming election, what is it that is so important to you? The individual voter.

What issues are the most important?

These issues that are so important, why do you think one candidate is better than the next?

Ms. Jorgensen, for example, has some really good ideas. There is plenty that she has to say that I find important and worthy of conversation, but then she loses me at the Open Boarder thing.

Joe Biden, lost cause in my opinion due to his hatred of our laws and our way of life.

So, what is key for you, the voter?

Guns.

A free market economy to ensure the availability of more guns, and accessories to improve my guns.

Not a one of them has ever done anything to improve my situation. That has always been up to me.

Just the way I like it.

 

[BDinPutnam]

I was going to go with "defend the constitution specifically when it needs it the most."

Judges?.... yes, they'll take it!

 

[spat]

If I were to wait for a candidate that was for the citizenry to have the same exact weaponry that an infantry foot soldier has like it was when the 2A was created, then I would never vote and whatever rights I do have will continuously go away.

And if BD and Darth’s candidate ran, I still wouldn’t vote for him because he may be for background checks and maybe even an increase in military spending overseas.

You see how that works? You have to pick the candidate that is closest to you. There isn’t one candidate out there that caters to a whole base. It’s impossible. Everyone in that base is different. That’s why we lose every election and continuously lose more and more of our freedoms to the left.

We are stupider than the left.

For what? So that we can look at our self righteous pompous faces in the mirror saying to ourselves that we stood by our principles while we contributed to the new federal assault weapons ban that could have been prevented for another decade?

When the 2A was drafted, it wasn't meant to only apply to infantry.

Remember the war was started when the government tried to confiscate privately owned cannons.

They didn't wait until their muskets were on the line, they fought back when the government came for their artillery.

Washington would have been slitting throats over NFA '34, let alone an AWB.

 

[spat]

I never said he would be.

I said I refuse to vote for either of them because neither candidate has earned my confidence and hence not my vote either.

So you are giving up your voice in the election because neither candidate is acceptable ?

That's really cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Thats like saying "since I can't own a full auto in NY I don't want any guns"

 

[BDinPutnam]

So you are giving up your voice in the election because neither candidate is acceptable ?

That's really cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Thats like saying "since I can't own a full auto in NY I don't want any guns"

Nope, sorry but false choice arguments dont work with me.

I support neither of these candidates. In fact, I dislike both of them.

Voting for "the lesser of two evils" doesn't appeal to me.

 

[spat]

Nope, sorry but false choice arguments dont work with me.

I support neither of these candidates. In fact, I dislike both of them.

Voting for "the lesser of two evils" doesn't appeal to me.

You can certainly not vote if you choose, but you cannot avoid the consequences of not voting.

So when Biden signs the AWB2 and any "firearm capable of accepting a magazine that allows rapid follow up shots" is the definition, are you going to turn in your bolt action ? Bury it ?

Will the fact that you didn't vote for Trump comfort you as you are frog marched to the re-education camps by the Antifa "social workers" who have replaced the police ?

If you lived in 1930's Germany and your choices were Trump or Hitler, would you sit home because Trump "says uncouth things" ?

 

[BDinPutnam]

You can certainly not vote if you choose, but you cannot avoid the consequences of not voting.

So when Biden signs the AWB2 and any "firearm capable of accepting a magazine that allows rapid follow up shots" is the definition, are you going to turn in your bolt action ? Bury it ?

Will the fact that you didn't vote for Trump comfort you as you are frog marched to the re-education camps by the Antifa "social workers" who have replaced the police ?

If you lived in 1930's Germany and your choices were Trump or Hitler, would you sit home because Trump "says uncouth things" ?

Theres a corralry here to Godwins law, I think. "Trump.... or HITLER!"

My issues with Trump stem from his inability to get anything done outside of the judiciary- which he largely hasn't been responsible for, anyway.

The farm bailout, which was necessitated solely by Trumps stupid ass trade wars, now sits at more cost than Obama's auto bailouts. People say nothing.

GOP controlled the Executive and Legislative branches for two full years and we got all of what? A tax bill that could've been written by any Republican.

 

[spat]

Theres a corralry here to Godwins law, I think. "Trump.... or HITLER!"

My issues with Trump stem from his inability to get anything done outside of the judiciary- which he largely hasn't been responsible for, anyway.

The farm bailout, which was necessitated solely by Trumps stupid ass trade wars, now sits at more cost than Obama's auto bailouts. People say nothing.

GOP controlled the Executive and Legislative branches for two full years and we got all of what? A tax bill that could've been written by any Republican.

Still 1000x better than what we would have gotten under Hillary (or will get under Biden).

You think a trade war is expensive ?

How many actual wars would she have gotten us sucked into ?

 

[BDinPutnam]

Still 1000x better than what we would have gotten under Hillary (or will get under Biden).

You think a trade war is expensive ?

How many actual wars would she have gotten us sucked into ?

Speculative history doesn't work on me, either.

Try a different tact. Tell me why I should affirmatively vote for Trump. In positivistic terms, not in "negating the evil" terms.

The old fashioned way- earn my vote by telling me what you'll do, not what you won't do. "I won't start a war" is a pretty low bar.

 

[spat]

Speculative history doesn't work on me, either.

Try a different tact. Tell me why I should affirmatively vote for Trump. In positivistic terms, not in "negating the evil" terms.

The old fashioned way- earn my vote by telling me what you'll do, not what you won't do. "I won't start a war" is a pretty low bar.

The bar is very very low.

I wish we could set it higher, but at this point just "not burning down the country" is where the bar sits, and many of the Democrat candidates can't even pass that.

 

[BDinPutnam]

The bar is very very low.

I wish we could set it higher, but at this point just "not burning down the country" is where the bar sits, and many of the Democrat candidates can't even pass that.

So that's a no?

 

[spat]

So that's a no?

How about this.

A vote for Trump will push back the inevitable collapse of society by a couple years.

Is that good enough for you ?

 

[BDinPutnam]

How about this.

A vote for Trump will push back the inevitable collapse of society by a couple years.

Is that good enough for you ?

It's a step in the right direction.

I'm not convinced it's true, though. Not least when I see what's happened to our national debt over the last several years (including before the C19 spending).

 

[spat]

It's a step in the right direction.

I'm not convinced it's true, though. Not least when I see what's happened to our national debt over the last several years (including before the C19 spending).

Well, if you really don't think that Biden will be worse that Trump, then your stance makes sense. I just can't imagine how you reach that conclusion.

In 2016 I voted for Trump because I knew Hillary would be an unmitigated disaster and Trump as a lifelong NYC Democrat might be just as bad, but was unlikely to be worse.

I figured at least he would be less effective in our active destruction because he wasn't a consumate Washington insider.

I have been very pleasantly surprised. Not that he's been spectacular, but he's much much better than I thought he might be.

But the bottom line is that come next January either Trump or Biden will be your president. You can voice your preference or not. There is nothing you can do to make "none of the above" an option.

 

[GOPerfect]

Try a different tact. Tell me why I should affirmatively vote for Trump. In positivistic terms, not in "negating the evil" terms.

A vote and a win for Trump is four more years of funny Twitter comments.

A vote and a win for Trump is four more years of being able to see his beautiful wife and daughters.

A vote and a win for Trump is four more years of watching the Libtards lose their minds and be unhappy.

A vote and a win for Trump is four more years of good times on the MSM networks.

I can more examples....

 

[Blimey]

I get not voting for either one because they both have major faults.

I don't know how comforting knowing one voted on high principles will be as one is queuing to get in their assigned boxcar.

Only in the past few days I have started to wonder if this country will go down the shitter slower with a democrat president. Not because they don't hate the country--the democrats clearly do--but their rage perhaps would be diminished. This is a policy of appeasement, which I'm fundamentally against, so I would like to see Trump win again anyway, as the only need hole I can see us threading through is possibly by continuing to get people into SCOTUS, for whatever the hell good that has done any of us recently.

Pretty sure that last sentence was a bit long, with, too many commas, as well.

 

[holdover]

A Vote for trump for supreme court picks

 

[BDinPutnam]

A vote and a win for Trump is four more years of funny Twitter comments.

A vote and a win for Trump is four more years of being able to see his beautiful wife and daughters.

A vote and a win for Trump is four more years of watching the Libtards lose their minds and be unhappy.

A vote and a win for Trump is four more years of good times on the MSM networks.

I can more examples....

None of these are positives for me because I dont care for any of this nor do I think any of it is healthy for the Republic. Everything you list here is shallow.

 

[GOPerfect]

None of these are positives for me because I dont care for any of this nor do I think any of it is healthy for the Republic.

It was more of joking than seriousness.

 

[Blimey]

None of these are positives for me because I dont care for any of this nor do I think any of it is healthy for the Republic. Everything you list here is shallow.

Four more years of no-nonsense, relatively attractive women in dresses serving as his press secretaries?

 

[BDinPutnam]

Four more years of no-nonsense, relatively attractive women in dresses serving as his press secretaries?

The internet is free and cant fuck with the national debt.

What else ya got?