RACIST for wearing a shirt that depicts the flag of our country ? Hostile work environment.

[RooftopKorean]

A few moments ago at my job one of my employees started to rant about how one of my personal friends who was involved in an altercation (he was pushing a BLM/Anti-PD protestor back after being first struck) at a Pro NYPD rally is racist.

I asked how he could say my friend was racist because he does not know him nor does he know the full story of what happened as he was not there; simply labeled as a "racist" because he was at a Pro NYPD rally.

Then I get called a racist for wearing a Grunt Style Tee which depics the US flag in bullets (I wear to work then change). RACIST for wearing a shirt that depicts the flag of our country!

When will this bullshit stop? As a manager I need to lead by example and do not get involved in political or religious discussions. But where do I draw the line when I constantly hear upper administration (especially my CEO), co-workers and employees in my hospital constantly demean/slander conservatives and/or Trump supporters for their views.

I feel like at this point it is becoming a hostile work environment. I even feel it from my Director (who I consider a friend - we've worked together for over 15 years). When he says things like "I can't believe you support that moron Trump" or other phrases along that line.

 

[dsdmmat]

when you file a lawsuit for defamation of character and sue the crap out of his ass. Then all the other, wannabe haters will get the word, "that shit isn't as cool as you think it is."

 

[S&W Fan]

Time to put your feelers out and move on. I would never stay working in an environment where you’re maligned daily by morons.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

HR?

 

[spat]

when you file a lawsuit for defamation of character and sue the crap out of his ass. Then all the other, wannabe haters will get the word, "that shit isn't as cool as you think it is."

This.

The left are the ones who wanted to make "hostile work environment" lawsuits a thing.

We need to make them eat it.

 

[Jmac00]

when at work, STAY NEUTRAL. You have been at this job (15 years) to be vested in a retirement program? Let shit go

BUT back your people. DO NOT let them get pushed around. Stand up for them. You need to have an honest conversation with your friend and possibly management. Once they understand you may have a HR complaint of a hostile work environment, that becomes record.

It will CRITICAL that you remain calm and collected. But make such Management understands you point of view

 

[RooftopKorean]

when at work, STAY NEUTRAL. You have been at this job (15 years) to be vested in a retirement program? Let shit go

BUT back your people. DO NOT let them get pushed around. Stand up for them. You need to have an honest conversation with your friend and possibly management. Once they understand you may have a HR complaint of a hostile work environment, that becomes record.

It will CRITICAL that you remain calm and collected. But make such Management understands you point of view

I am the management! My HR department is utterly useless and the labor relations guy is owned by the VP of HR. My hospital administration is a C-suite of a bunch of bleeding heart liberals cocks and Karens.

I had a job lined up with a fortune 500 company but due to covid-19 they put a hiring freeze until 2021 which fucked my plans to escape this liberal shit hole (both in job and NYC/NYS).

I think I seriously will need to look for a lawyer and file a defamation of character/hostile work environment law suit. It's a good thing I have recordings of the many meetings I went to where the CEO would give his anti-conservatives and Trump tirades, it will be a good launching point.

 

[ikilledkenny]

in 3 years at my current work, i do not know ONE single republican at work [they exist but quiet], BUT i know who the democrats at work are [majority of them] they LOVE to talk.

just tune out. head down, go home, drink beer, 4x4, ski/snowboard, motorcycles, travel, shoot, just have a merry time, the american way, work hard play hard.

 

[RooftopKorean]

We shouldn't need to tune out and put our heads down. To be vilified because we are conservatives and have a different view point than others and to be called a racist or other idiotic shit is starting to really wear thin on me. The intolerance of the left is disturbing on so many levels and it's getting worse and worse everyday.

I mean shit, these days being a Conservative/Republican/Trump supporter is probably how gays felt in the 80s-90s. Losing friends and family, in fear of losing your job and getting assaulted verbally/physically. I'll even admit that when I was younger I used to be a democrat, hell I was a registered democrat up until eight years of Obama changed it; I was always a moderate, but the direction and diatribe of the Dems and the push for a one world government / world first-america second views immediately changed me.

 

[dsdmmat]

I am the management! My HR department is utterly useless and the labor relations guy is owned by the VP of HR. My hospital administration is a C-suite of a bunch of bleeding heart liberals cocks and Karens.

I had a job lined up with a fortune 500 company but due to covid-19 they put a hiring freeze until 2021 which fucked my plans to escape this liberal shit hole (both in job and NYC/NYS).

I think I seriously will need to look for a lawyer and file a defamation of character/hostile work environment law suit. It's a good thing I have recordings of the many meetings I went to where the CEO would give his anti-conservatives and Trump tirades, it will be a good launching point.

$$$$$ make it worth your while 1.5 Billion dollars should be enough.

 

[Plater1]

First, never get into an altercation with a dumb ass. Second, and this is about the t-shirt with the bullet flag. Simply ask them to name any country, race of people or religion past or present that doesn't have some evil crap in their history. THERE ARE NONE! Yes, the United States has a history of slavery, so does every other country on Earth. It's not about black or white anymore, it's about some people who just won't grow the eff up

rant over..........

 

[kev74]

I prefer being subversive. I try not to say anything too pro-conservative at work, but will not hesitate to point out the failures of the communist, socialist racist left.

This is my new computer wallpaper.

 

[BDinPutnam]

Suing Employer A while actively pursuing a job at Employer B does not usually sit well with Employer B.

Just saying.

 

[RooftopKorean]

Suing Employer A while actively pursuing a job at Employer B does not usually sit well with Employer B.

Just saying.

Employer B is not hiring at the moment and nothing ever went through because of the outbreak of covid-19. The offer may not even be there after 2021. It's too far away to make any bets on things.

 

[S&W Fan]

Make this into a tee shirt and wear it around your moronic colleagues.

 

[Blimey]

I mean shit, these days being a Conservative/Republican/Trump supporter is probably how gays felt in the 80s-90s. Losing friends and family, in fear of losing your job and getting assaulted verbally/physically. I'll even admit that when I was younger I used to be a democrat, hell I was a registered democrat up until eight years of Obama changed it; I was always a moderate, but the direction and diatribe of the Dems and the push for a one world government / world first-america second views immediately changed me.

The democrats of even ten years ago were nothing like they are today. They were patriots, mostly, with differing views. They are now revolutionists pushing an anti-American agenda and revolution along with complete dismantling of American institutions.

I don't think most democrats have actually caught onto the view points their leadership are now espousing.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

in 3 years at my current work, i do not know ONE single republican at work [they exist but quiet], BUT i know who the democrats at work are [majority of them] they LOVE to talk.

just tune out. head down, go home, drink beer, 4x4, ski/snowboard, motorcycles, travel, shoot, just have a merry time, the american way, work hard play hard.

This is the "silent majority".


But I think we're reaching the point where it's only "ok and approved speak" for one sides narrative to be discussed publicly, while our side has to retreat to anonymous web forums or discussions in your buddies garage then we've very clearly reached the point where some are more equal than others.

We need to begin actively advocating for our beliefs and rights because we are being slandered and bullied into silence everywhere we turn.




For the record, to answer the OP question, we are well past the point of too far

 

[Deplorable Me]

HR?

HR is the biggest bunch of TDS, politically correct assholes on the planet around here. Mental camouflage is the order of the day. A number of us operate underground to get by. 4 years til retirement and the hole place can implode as far as I'm concerned. Their bullshit is not part of my job.

 

[pjzwtl]

HR?

Assuming your HR isn’t a room full of pussies

 

[Saltwater60]

You have recordings great but you’ll need to speak with your manager and HR to tell them you want these altercations/attacks to stop. If you don’t you have no lawsuit. You’ll need to be clever about how you approach this. You may want to speak with a lawyer prior to moving forward but watch who you speak with as they may have ties to the company. Maybe an out of state law firm?

Remember just them saying Trump’s a moron is not enough for a lawsuit. They will need to directly attack you. Also look at their company policy to make sure you’re not violating it by wearing bullets on your shirt. Just saying. Also make sure pocket knives aren’t banned if you carry one into work.

 

[ManrisFrack]

Remember when it was uncouth to go on a political rant, regardless of side? Remember when it was rude to ask who someone voted for? The left obliterated that social norm while we clung to it.

Now look where we are. We're shouted down nearly everywhere. This thread will have maybe a hundred or two unique people read it at most but it can't exist most places that have a large audience. It would be actively censored. They have reached critical mass with their voices and their ideology. People are starting to say the words, not because they came to those words through logic and reason, but because everyone else is saying them.

To the OP: As a manager, could you insist that ALL politics be left at the doors? Or would you face repercussions for stifling speech or creating a hostile work environment? I suspect I know the answer and that it also provides the answer to your original question.

They have pushed so far that common decency is gone. We must stand and shout. This rabid ideology will NOT fade on it's own.

 

[prambo]

First, never get into an altercation with a dumb ass. Second, and this is about the t-shirt with the bullet flag. Simply ask them to name any country, race of people or religion past or present that doesn't have some evil crap in their history. THERE ARE NONE! Yes, the United States has a history of slavery, so does every other country on Earth. It's not about black or white anymore, it's about some people who just won't grow the eff up

rant over..........

Exactly...never waste your time on an mentally unarmed opponent, they're not worth the agro... if they are mentally unarmed, but physically armed, well that's a different kettle of fish.

 

[Toecutter]

EVENTUALLY NO ONE BELIEVES A LIAR EVEN WHEN HE TELLS THE TRUTH -Aristotle

A Shepherd Boy tended his master's Sheep near a dark forest not far from the village. Soon he found life in the pasture very dull. All he could do to amuse himself was to talk to his dog or play on his shepherd's pipe.

.
One day as he sat watching the Sheep and the quiet forest, and thinking what he would do should he see a Wolf, he thought of a plan to amuse himself.

His Master had told him to call for help should a Wolf attack the flock, and the Villagers would drive it away. So now, though he had not seen anything that even looked like a Wolf, he ran toward the village shouting at the top of his voice, "Wolf! Wolf!"

As he expected, the Villagers who heard the cry dropped their work and ran in great excitement to the pasture. But when they got there they found the Boy doubled up with laughter at the trick he had played on them.

A few days later the Shepherd Boy again shouted, "Wolf! Wolf!" Again the Villagers ran to help him, only to be laughed at again.

Then one evening as the sun was setting behind the forest and the shadows were creeping out over the pasture, a Wolf really did spring from the underbrush and fall upon the Sheep.

In terror the Boy ran toward the village shouting "Wolf! Wolf!" But though the Villagers heard the cry, they did not run to help him as they had before. "He cannot fool us again," they said.

The Wolf killed a great many of the Boy's sheep and then slipped away into the forest.

 

[prambo]

I prefer being subversive. I try not to say anything too pro-conservative at work, but will not hesitate to point out the failures of the communist, socialist racist left.

We used to do this with our witherlingly stupid and TDS infected downstairs neighbor - luckily she moved out.

Mrs. prambo would just say - "Wow, I hadn't heard that! Were'd you see it or read it?"

Answer: "Well, ahh...ahhh.. I can't remember."

Mrs. prambo: "Well, was it CNN, MSNBC, FoxNews?"

Answer: "Well, I'm not really sure."

And that was the end of that - and, invariably, anything that she said Trump did or was going to do...he never said, or he never did in the future.

 

[prambo]

It's already gone too far.

A Nation at War by Usarmyretiredsgm – ZeroGov

 

[redtail]

It won’t stop.
The only thing they understand is pain.
Make it hurt in their wallets, bigly.
Duty to save others from their Continued stupidity.
Seek legal counsel, make it hurt.
Then eject.

 

[tirwin1]

You may want to speak with a lawyer prior to moving forward but watch who you speak with as they may have ties to the company. Maybe an out of state law firm?

Definitely speak to a lawyer first. Find out exactly what behavior is legally actionable. There is most likely a difference between what you may find uncomfortable versus what crosses the line. With a lawyer's assistance you can start documenting the illegal activity.

I would guess 99.9% of us would prefer not to go down this path. The left, however, has been utilizing the legal system openly as a means of achieving their political gains. There is even a term and a group for this - "lawfare" or warfare via the law. If we have to fight fire with fire so be it.

 

[Modean]

Put your HR department on notice that if they don’t fix the issue they are going to be sued. That generally gets their attention.

 

[holdover]

You need to engage in dialog which results in them calling you raceist and have it video taped over and over .Go along with the program and tape everything . Mention how Trump is doing great things or something. Then show it to a lawyer and see what he thinks . Just bite your tounge and tape it. Your going to end up leaveing anyways, just leave on your terms

 

[GOPerfect]

Me, I play head games. I play the minds of the weak. I have been working this angle for many, many years. I am very good at word manipulation and verbal judo.

I never, NEVER, hold back my opinion. I never back down from a verbal confrontation. I do not bite my tongue, I do not back down from my beliefs. If others do not like it, they can piss off, they can fuck off or they can stay the hell away from me. There are a few at work that do not care for me, my opinions, my outlook on life or my politics; that is fine. They do not engage me, they do not speak to me, they do not say hello to me. I am okay with this. They are beneath me, they are less than me and I am better than they are.