Unreliable Companies

[MillidotShooter]

So I am curious if anybody has ever had any dealings with Moriarti Armament in Miami, FL. First I would advise anybody looking to deal with them... DON'T... Go somewhere else. Because to be honest THEY SUCK! Now I realize there has been a run on Firearms, parts, accessories, ammo, etc, due to the current BS going on, but I have a feeling this company has been shady long before the world went batshit.

My story in a nutshell is this: I ordered an AR upper receiver from them on July 4th. (JUST an upper... w/ Dust Cover and Bolt Assist, NOTHING ELSE) Now, according to their website, it was an "In Stock" item. Also on their website was a notice that they were experiencing 12-18 business day delays on shipping. I started to inquire about the order around the 15-day mark via email ( Since They REFUSE to answer the phone and any left messages are NEVER returned) and got a "Nasty Gram" back when I demanded answers about my order. In that email, they responded, "Answers to What?!". In that email, they also stated my inquiry was delaying their process AND they would charge a 20% restock fee if I tried to cancel since my "Build" was almost complete. Now keep in mind, this is JUST an upper... So I have NO clue what "Build" they are talking about... I mean, as an S&W Armorer, Retired Officer, Veteran, AND NRA Instructor/RSO this isn't my FIRST build. For F^*K'S sake, how long does it take to install a dust cover and Assist? 2 Minutes? 3 if you're slow as shit!? So when the 18th business day finally came around I emailed again and got a response saying they were now experiencing 24 Business day delivery delays. They even went so far as to change the notification on their website claiming as much. When I emailed to say that was unacceptable, they replied with ANOTHER email saying they received a "BAD BATCH" of uppers and new uppers were on order. So my problem is this... IF they had to wait for a batch up uppers to arrive, then they lied about the item being in stock. IF they actually did have the upper, then they failed to inspect said upper for flaws when it arrived. Meanwhile, through all of this, I acquired two FULL uppers with Barrels, BCG's, blocks, tubes, handguards, and Brakes from 2 other companies within a week from order date. Unassembled mind you, but still... All parts IN HAND within 7 days. It is now 31 calendar days since I placed my order from Moriarti and I still have NO CLUE when it is coming.

Meanwhile, in another part of the country, my older brother ordered a complete upper from them for a 7" .300 AAC Blackout including a Nickle Boron BCG... He ordered the same day I did and FINALLY received it yesterday... Only NO BCG AND shipped to the WRONG address! (Wanted it shipped to his second home. They shipped to his billing address) Needless to say, he is PISSED about all their F**KUPS! But, Again... As of this morning, No reply to email or phone messages.

So I am wondering... Does anybody have any other take on this company or ANY other that have been proven to be unreliable? Think we all should put a list together of companies NOT to deal with...
And a list of those that deserve our business
As to the two OTHER companies that did the right thing...!
Aagil Arms
Midstate Armory

 

[BDinPutnam]

IIRC this is one of the companies that came out with Glock AR9 lowers a few years ago. Have no experience with the company but I remember having a shady feeling about them at the time.

 

[Elwood]

Patience is a virtue, I’ve had shit on back order from Brownells since the end of may.

 

[MillidotShooter]

Patience is a virtue, I’ve had shit on back order from Brownells since the end of may.

Not talking about backorder stuff from a manufacturing perspective. As I said... My item was listed as "In Stock". And if they had been honest from the start, yeah, I may not have placed an order THIS time... But next time, who knows... NOW they will never get another dime from me... Honesty goes a LONG way with me.

 

[technicalgadget]

I will never ever do business with botach.com. They are a bunch of crooks and shysters. They have zero concept of customer service. They are there to take your money, even if they send you the wrong shit. They are on the ar15.com arfcom banned vendors list as well. Stay away from these assholes. Unreliable as all hell.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

I've been on their site but never had the misfortune of ordering from them.

 

[Vinson57]

You should of had everything you needed by now and only eating well and exercising as the needed activity. Its bee years since the safe act was enacted and all that.

 

[MillidotShooter]

You should of had everything you needed by now and only eating well and exercising as the needed activity. Its bee years since the safe act was enacted and all that.

There is ALWAYS something to be had... And this wasn't a need... It was a WANT. I WANTED a shiny new upper... Didn't need it... Just wanted it. And not really the point of my question. I was trying to put a list together of companies NOT to bother buying from.

 

[MillidotShooter]

So I am curious if anybody has ever had any dealings with Moriarti Armament in Miami, FL. First I would advise anybody looking to deal with them... DON'T... Go somewhere else. Because to be honest THEY SUCK! Now I realize there has been a run on Firearms, parts, accessories, ammo, etc, due to the current BS going on, but I have a feeling this company has been shady long before the world went batshit.

My story in a nutshell is this: I ordered an AR upper receiver from them on July 4th. (JUST an upper... w/ Dust Cover and Bolt Assist, NOTHING ELSE) Now, according to their website, it was an "In Stock" item. Also on their website was a notice that they were experiencing 12-18 business day delays on shipping. I started to inquire about the order around the 15-day mark via email ( Since They REFUSE to answer the phone and any left messages are NEVER returned) and got a "Nasty Gram" back when I demanded answers about my order. In that email, they responded, "Answers to What?!". In that email, they also stated my inquiry was delaying their process AND they would charge a 20% restock fee if I tried to cancel since my "Build" was almost complete. Now keep in mind, this is JUST an upper... So I have NO clue what "Build" they are talking about... I mean, as an S&W Armorer, Retired Officer, Veteran, AND NRA Instructor/RSO this isn't my FIRST build. For F^*K'S sake, how long does it take to install a dust cover and Assist? 2 Minutes? 3 if you're slow as shit!? So when the 18th business day finally came around I emailed again and got a response saying they were now experiencing 24 Business day delivery delays. They even went so far as to change the notification on their website claiming as much. When I emailed to say that was unacceptable, they replied with ANOTHER email saying they received a "BAD BATCH" of uppers and new uppers were on order. So my problem is this... IF they had to wait for a batch up uppers to arrive, then they lied about the item being in stock. IF they actually did have the upper, then they failed to inspect said upper for flaws when it arrived. Meanwhile, through all of this, I acquired two FULL uppers with Barrels, BCG's, blocks, tubes, handguards, and Brakes from 2 other companies within a week from order date. Unassembled mind you, but still... All parts IN HAND within 7 days. It is now 31 calendar days since I placed my order from Moriarti and I still have NO CLUE when it is coming.

Meanwhile, in another part of the country, my older brother ordered a complete upper from them for a 7" .300 AAC Blackout including a Nickle Boron BCG... He ordered the same day I did and FINALLY received it yesterday... Only NO BCG AND shipped to the WRONG address! (Wanted it shipped to his second home. They shipped to his billing address) Needless to say, he is PISSED about all their F**KUPS! But, Again... As of this morning, No reply to email or phone messages.

So I am wondering... Does anybody have any other take on this company or ANY other that have been proven to be unreliable? Think we all should put a list together of companies NOT to deal with...
And a list of those that deserve our business
As to the two OTHER companies that did the right thing...!
Aagil Arms
Midstate Armory

Update: Received my upper... FINALLY! 41 days later... Fucktards didn't even bother to install the dust cover or Bolt Assist... So what the hell was I waiting 41 Days for... Also, My brother has never heard back about the BCG that was missing from his .300 Blackout. He ended up spending money on one from Midstate and had it on the second day. Also, the jackholes at Moriarti didn't install the gas block properly (Off-center and too far forward), AND the barrel nut was only hand tight. He had to take the whole assembly apart and reassemble it. FUCK MORIARTI ARMAMENT!!!!

 

[Defilade]

Update: Received my upper... FINALLY! 41 days later... Fucktards didn't even bother to install the dust cover or Bolt Assist... So what the hell was I waiting 41 Days for... Also, My brother has never heard back about the BCG that was missing from his .300 Blackout. He ended up spending money on one from Midstate and had it on the second day. Also, the jackholes at Moriarti didn't install the gas block properly (Off-center and too far forward), AND the barrel nut was only hand tight. He had to take the whole assembly apart and reassemble it. FUCK MORIARTI ARMAMENT!!!!

Hope you let the idiots know about it.

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Update: Received my upper... FINALLY! 41 days later... Fucktards didn't even bother to install the dust cover or Bolt Assist... So what the hell was I waiting 41 Days for... Also, My brother has never heard back about the BCG that was missing from his .300 Blackout. He ended up spending money on one from Midstate and had it on the second day. Also, the jackholes at Moriarti didn't install the gas block properly (Off-center and too far forward), AND the barrel nut was only hand tight. He had to take the whole assembly apart and reassemble it. FUCK MORIARTI ARMAMENT!!!!

My recollection was their pricing wasn't the cheapest either.

 

[MillidotShooter]

Hope you let the idiots know about it.

Oh, you can bet I did... Also told them I was going to blast them on EVERY forum I'm on and urge anyone who asks "Where to Buy" to stay the fuck away from them... Brother did as well... Brother did contest credit card charges and got back the cost of the BCG... Because Fuck them...

 

[Bustedknees]

BOTACH.COM ...Wish I seen this thread sooner, ordered a tube extension from them three weeks ago. they charged my debit, created a tracking number but never shipped. they refuse to refund my card saying it's too late because a tracking number has been created ( even though they have not shipped ). I looked at their Facebook page and it appears they erase all the negative comments. Tried to leave feedback on their site regarding my purchase but it seems anything like a poor rating will not post.. Only a $69 loss but it irritates me to no end. If I'm ever in Vegas I'll throw a brick through their windows.

 

[fnfalguy]

@Bustedknees file a claim with your debit card holder. You should be within that window.

 

[Darth]

You could fill a thread with horrendous Buds experiences.

But they are by far the best prices.

The epitome of low price, no service.

 

[Xae289]

You could fill a thread with horrendous Buds experiences.

But they are by far the best prices.

The epitome of low price, no service.

I find Grabagun's prices to usually be better than Buds'. Haven't really looked at gun prices all that much since early last year though, so I have no idea what things are going for these days.

 

[technicalgadget]

This should be a running thread and sticky at the top so that people can find this more easily.

 

[Bustedknees]

@Bustedknees file a claim with your debit card holder. You should be within that window.

Well I hate to admit it but I used paypal for the purchase,, I know they are anti-gun. I never even had a debit card before Covid came along but admittedly I've found the debit and paypal handy to have, it keeps things off my credit card also.. So I filed a grievance with paypal , will have to wait and see now.

 

[thegatman]

So I am curious if anybody has ever had any dealings with Moriarti Armament in Miami, FL. First I would advise anybody looking to deal with them... DON'T... Go somewhere else. Because to be honest THEY SUCK! Now I realize there has been a run on Firearms, parts, accessories, ammo, etc, due to the current BS going on, but I have a feeling this company has been shady long before the world went batshit.

My story in a nutshell is this: I ordered an AR upper receiver from them on July 4th. (JUST an upper... w/ Dust Cover and Bolt Assist, NOTHING ELSE) Now, according to their website, it was an "In Stock" item. Also on their website was a notice that they were experiencing 12-18 business day delays on shipping. I started to inquire about the order around the 15-day mark via email ( Since They REFUSE to answer the phone and any left messages are NEVER returned) and got a "Nasty Gram" back when I demanded answers about my order. In that email, they responded, "Answers to What?!". In that email, they also stated my inquiry was delaying their process AND they would charge a 20% restock fee if I tried to cancel since my "Build" was almost complete. Now keep in mind, this is JUST an upper... So I have NO clue what "Build" they are talking about... I mean, as an S&W Armorer, Retired Officer, Veteran, AND NRA Instructor/RSO this isn't my FIRST build. For F^*K'S sake, how long does it take to install a dust cover and Assist? 2 Minutes? 3 if you're slow as shit!? So when the 18th business day finally came around I emailed again and got a response saying they were now experiencing 24 Business day delivery delays. They even went so far as to change the notification on their website claiming as much. When I emailed to say that was unacceptable, they replied with ANOTHER email saying they received a "BAD BATCH" of uppers and new uppers were on order. So my problem is this... IF they had to wait for a batch up uppers to arrive, then they lied about the item being in stock. IF they actually did have the upper, then they failed to inspect said upper for flaws when it arrived. Meanwhile, through all of this, I acquired two FULL uppers with Barrels, BCG's, blocks, tubes, handguards, and Brakes from 2 other companies within a week from order date. Unassembled mind you, but still... All parts IN HAND within 7 days. It is now 31 calendar days since I placed my order from Moriarti and I still have NO CLUE when it is coming.

Meanwhile, in another part of the country, my older brother ordered a complete upper from them for a 7" .300 AAC Blackout including a Nickle Boron BCG... He ordered the same day I did and FINALLY received it yesterday... Only NO BCG AND shipped to the WRONG address! (Wanted it shipped to his second home. They shipped to his billing address) Needless to say, he is PISSED about all their F**KUPS! But, Again... As of this morning, No reply to email or phone messages.

So I am wondering... Does anybody have any other take on this company or ANY other that have been proven to be unreliable? Think we all should put a list together of companies NOT to deal with...
And a list of those that deserve our business
As to the two OTHER companies that did the right thing...!
Aagil Arms
Midstate Armory

ever watch Sherlock Holmes? Moriarty is his nemisis.

 

[Thomas]

Botach... smh

 

[Reno]

Benchmade. I sent them an email to see if they would fix or exchange a custom knife I ordered from them that was defective and they never got back to me.

 

[Vapor]

I ordered sights from botach once. It took like 4 weeks for them to come.


I made sure I never ordered from them again. Or any other place that sounds weird, like lapolice gear or global ordinance.

I'll pay a few bucks more to order from brownells, aim surplus, primary arms, etc.from now on.

 

[Modean]

I ordered sights from botach once. It took like 4 weeks for them to come.


I made sure I never ordered from them again. Or any other place that sounds weird, like lapolice gear or global ordinance.

I'll pay a few bucks more to order from brownells, aim surplus, primary arms, etc.from now on.

Guess I got lucky. I ordered magazine springs from Botach last month, and had them in 10 days. And none of the better known vendors had any.

 

[togmaster]

I ordered sights from botach once. It took like 4 weeks for them to come.


I made sure I never ordered from them again. Or any other place that sounds weird, like lapolice gear or global ordinance.

I'll pay a few bucks more to order from brownells, aim surplus, primary arms, etc.from now on.

I buy a ton of stuff from LAPG. Great price fast shipping and never a problem. What don't you like about them?

 

[Saltwater60]

Benchmade. I sent them an email to see if they would fix or exchange a custom knife I ordered from them that was defective and they never got back to me.

Same here. A clip was bent on my knife and failed they said they will replace it on thier web site. I emailed them and nothing. I bashed them on their Twitter feed and nothing. I bought a titanium one. Thanks for reminding me I need another knife and I’ll skip benchmade because of this.

 

[Darth]

Same here. A clip was bent on my knife and failed they said they will replace it on thier web site. I emailed them and nothing. I bashed them on their Twitter feed and nothing. I bought a titanium one. Thanks for reminding me I need another knife and I’ll skip benchmade because of this.

Benchmade. I sent them an email to see if they would fix or exchange a custom knife I ordered from them that was defective and they never got back to me.

They're too busy pulling anti gun stunts.

Lest we forget.

2nd Amendment Supporters Outraged After Benchmade Helps Police Destroy Guns

A recent spat involving Benchmade Knife Company, the Oregon City Police Department, and incensed Second Amendment advocates put the American-made knife manufacturer in the political crosshairs.

gearjunkie.com

 

[Saltwater60]

I hate palmetto state armory. I bought a new gun from them and it was clearly used. They refused to do anything and said there was nothing they could do and it was likely test fired by Ruger. I said call ruger to see how many rounds they do for a test fire or to see if serial number was registered. They refused. Oh well I got it for $190 less than I could elsewhere. $200 for a ruger lcpIi so I guess I can’t really complain.

 

[Saltwater60]

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They're too busy pulling anti gun stunts.

Lest we forget.

2nd Amendment Supporters Outraged After Benchmade Helps Police Destroy Guns

A recent spat involving Benchmade Knife Company, the Oregon City Police Department, and incensed Second Amendment advocates put the American-made knife manufacturer in the political crosshairs.

gearjunkie.com

I bought long before that. I emailed them about the clip at this time actually. I bought 4 years ago now. Best knife I’ve ever owned though.

 

[Darth]

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I bought long before that. I emailed them about the clip at this time actually. I bought 4 years ago now. Best knife I’ve ever owned though.

I've been getting good use out of Spyderco's 50% off MSRP LEO discount.

 

[Vapor]

I buy a ton of stuff from LAPG. Great price fast shipping and never a problem. What don't you like about them?

Seems like I remember them having a similar rep to botach. I could be wrong. If so, good to know.