VP Debate

[GOPerfect]

I’m sorry, you’re right. Trump hasn’t told any lies.

confirmation bias, which we all accuse the left of, is plenty strong on the right. Only about, oh like three of us on this site appreciate the fact trump is most likely going to lose next month.Should that happen will the rest of you have learned anything, or merely jump down the rabbit hole further and blame his loss on deceit instead of him? It’s going to be a highly traumatizing evening.

For people like you as well as others who will rejoice if Trump loses, I hope that you get everything that you want in your Boy Biden.

Seriously, I hope you reap what ever it is that you sow.

For all of those that want Trump gone, for those that need Trump gone, I only hope that Biden is all that you want. I hope that you are happy with all of your taxes increasing, I actually hope that these people that want and need Biden, I hope all lose everything they have through much, much higher taxes and everyday prices. I hope all lose their healthcare through their employment. Part of me hopes that Biden wins so that all of the Trump haters and those that hate the American way, our Constitution and our way of life get EXACTLY what they want.

 

[Blimey]

For people like you as well as others who will rejoice if Trump loses, I hope that you get everything that you want in your Boy Biden.

What in the world are you talking about?

My post at 8:15 PM, before you wrote yours:

<snip> I’d like him to win.

Sadly, most of you are every bit as partisan as the people on the left you denigrate. You are incapable of appreciating that anybody can have a nuanced, less simplified view of politics, so either you're with or against. 100%. No room in the middle. You're doing the very same thing people with TDS do, except from the other perspective. And falling to the same tactics. Very few on this forum seek out differing opinions, so run headstrong into news sources like breitbart, which are lying to you just as much as huffingtonpost is lying to the people on the left. Two sides of the same coin.

This is also why the vast bulk of trump supporters will learn absolutely nothing on November 3rd, as clinton supporters learned nothing last time. His faithful will be unable to step back and critically appraise what happened. They will flail around, blaming it on the MSM, blaming it on election fraud, etc. etc. all shit Trump has tried to poison the well with. None of them will appreciate the very obvious fact that he's just a very weak candidate, that he is a habitual liar (the fact even four years later some in this thread still doubt that is outrageous), is unprepared, and caters first to the lowest common denominator.

He's most likely going to lose to a demented good-for-nothing not because he'll be cheated but because he's done it to himself.

 

[Robin]

Politifact. I knew you you are a lib in denial. Fact and opinion all in one dohicky!
Robin

 

[GOPerfect]

What in the world are you talking about?

My post at 8:15 PM, before you wrote yours:


Sadly, most of you are every bit as partisan as the people on the left you denigrate. You are incapable of appreciating that anybody can have a nuanced, less simplified view of politics, so either you're with or against. 100%. No room in the middle. You're doing the very same thing people with TDS do, except from the other perspective. And falling to the same tactics. Very few on this forum seek out differing opinions, so run headstrong into news sources like breitbart, which are lying to you just as much as huffington post is lying to the people on the left. Two sides of the same coin.

This is also why the vast bulk of trump supporters will learn absolutely nothing on November 3rd, as clinton supporters learned nothing last time. His faithful will be unable to step back and critically appraise what happened. They will flail around, blaming it on the MSM, blaming it on election fraud, etc. etc. all shit Trump has tried to poison the well with. None of them will appreciate the very obvious fact that he's just a very weak candidate, that he is a habitual liar (the fact even four years later some in this thread still doubt that is outrageous), is unprepared, and caters first to the lowest common denominator.

He's most likely going to lose to a demented good-for-nothing not because he'll be cheated but because he's done it to himself.

Of course I am a partisan. I have never shied away from that fact. There is not one issue that the Left represents that I agree with. Not a single issue. I am so far Right that I make people like Rush appear to the Left. I have never his this fact, I am as one sided and partisan as they come. I have never hid my feelings towards Mr. Trump, hell, I may be one of his biggest cheerleaders. Again, I have never tried to hide that.

I am very capable of having an honest discussion about just about anything. I am quite open to others opinions, regardless of how wrong they are. What I am not capable of is having a discussion and a conversation with people that want to throw around made up facts. That happens too often on this forum. Opinions are NOT facts. Copy and pasting web sites for facts is not always stating facts.

If Trump loses this election I will know why. I know his faults and his shortcomings. People state that if he loses this election it will be because of his antics, that may be partially true, but not all of the truth. I see that you like to bring up him being a liar all of the time, we all know that he speaks in many mis-truths and flat out lies. There is no politician that does any different, not excusing his behavior, just pointing out the fact that all do it. Again, no different that the everyday American. For some reason, we, as people, seem predisposed to lie on a daily basis.

I will always listen to facts for and against that in which I believe... I will not alter my opinions nor will I change my views, but if you, or anyone else comes to me with real facts, hard data, I will at least listen and I will have a serious conversation. I will not try to change your mind as I know mine cannot be changed. Over the years I have grown and my ideals on some subjects have been broadened, but since the time in which I found myself, I have really never faltered on my beliefs. All I expect is truth and facts in a discussion, not lies and false data.

 

[CaseHardened]

What in the world are you talking about?

My post at 8:15 PM, before you wrote yours:


Sadly, most of you are every bit as partisan as the people on the left you denigrate. You are incapable of appreciating that anybody can have a nuanced, less simplified view of politics, so either you're with or against. 100%. No room in the middle. You're doing the very same thing people with TDS do, except from the other perspective. And falling to the same tactics. Very few on this forum seek out differing opinions, so run headstrong into news sources like breitbart, which are lying to you just as much as huffingtonpost is lying to the people on the left. Two sides of the same coin.

This is also why the vast bulk of trump supporters will learn absolutely nothing on November 3rd, as clinton supporters learned nothing last time. His faithful will be unable to step back and critically appraise what happened. They will flail around, blaming it on the MSM, blaming it on election fraud, etc. etc. all shit Trump has tried to poison the well with. None of them will appreciate the very obvious fact that he's just a very weak candidate, that he is a habitual liar (the fact even four years later some in this thread still doubt that is outrageous), is unprepared, and caters first to the lowest common denominator.

He's most likely going to lose to a demented good-for-nothing not because he'll be cheated but because he's done it to himself.

There are situations when the luxury of working with the other side exists.

This is not one of them.

Modern Democrats are truly evil people.

 

[libertysnake]

 

[CaseHardened]

Ok.

Do not link to Liberal Websites.

Just tell me FIVE Honest-to-God LIES Trump has uttered since inaugurated.

Lies that make a difference.

Lies that will make me angry.

OR even better - Give me ONE significant EXECUTIVE ORDER I should be pissed about.

 

[SonOfSun]

Ok.

Do not link to Liberal Websites.

Just tell me FIVE Honest-to-God LIES Trump has uttered since inaugurated.

Lies that make a difference.

Lies that will make me angry.

OR even better - Give me ONE significant EXECUTIVE ORDER I should be pissed about.

Days before the midterm elections, Trump stated that he would sign an executive order to end birthright citzenship in the United States.

 

[Blimey]

There are situations when the luxury of working with the other side exists.

This is not one of them.

Modern Democrats are truly evil people.

Most of them of course are not truly evil. They just do what you do: go to websites that affirm what they already believe and continually impress upon them how clever they are and how unbelievably stupid the other side is.

If you really think over 50% of the country is truly evil you must have zero hope for the future of the us in which case voting is a waste of time anyway.

 

[CaseHardened]

Most of them of course are not truly evil. They just do what you do: go to websites that affirm what they already believe and continually impress upon them how clever they are and how unbelievably stupid the other side is.

If you really think over 50% of the country is truly evil you must have zero hope for the future of the us in which case voting is a waste of time anyway.

We will see soon enough.

 

[CaseHardened]

Days before the midterm elections, Trump stated that he would sign an executive order to end birthright citzenship in the United States.

Technically, that is something HE DIDN'T DO.

It's not an Executive Order if it never happened.

There are many issues I am pissed about there. Hundreds.

No, I want to hear about things HE DID DO that would piss me off.

 

[Acer-m14]

Days before the midterm elections, Trump stated that he would sign an executive order to end birthright citzenship in the United States.

proceeds from a crime you can't keep .. robing a bank and get caught .. you don't the money you stole back when your released ..

birthright .. aka .. no citizenship .. your illegal here giving birth

pisses me off it hasn't been signed ..

 

[SonOfSun]

proceeds from a crime you can't keep .. robing a bank and get caught .. you don't the money you stole back when your released ..

birthright .. aka .. no citizenship .. your illegal here giving birth

pisses me off it hasn't been signed ..

He can't just sign it, well... I guess he could, but it wouldn't do anything....

Since the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution on July 9, 1868, citizenship of persons born in the United States has been controlled by its Citizenship Clause, which states: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."