Biden’s corona virus girl and new lockdown plans

[Saltwater60]

I just saw an interview on the Today Show with this lady and on my. We’re in trouble and headed for another lockdown 100%. Ph wait don’t call it a lockdown because she doesn’t like that term.

Dr. Celine Gounder

The basics of the plan are:
Shutdown indoor dining. She danced around this but this is what it lead to. Expand outdoor dining but limit or eliminate indoor dining again.

Keep everything to what’s in your household for parties and get togethers. No interactions with outsiders. This includes your son or daughter that lives on a college campus. Yes she specifically said they don’t include your household and you can’t interact with them.

Equated wearing a mask to using toilet paper. We’re wearing masks for the long haul.
There were a few other startling things but we’re screwed.

Seems like Biden largely picked his task force by color of skin. I’m not saying they aren’t qualified because I don’t know them but a cursory glance at names with pictures will prove my point. Also this Gounder lady is getting beat up already because she’s an upper caste member. I love it.

 

[spat]

When does it become acceptable to shoot anyone attempting to enforce this draconian BS?

Asking for a friend.

 

[Blimey]

Covid cases are surging quickly. This was evident a couple of weeks ago. In Monroe county they are cranking up at a terrible pace. Nationally we are seeing a terrible spike in new cases, and a terrible spike as one would think in deaths. I hope that vaccine is as good as Pfizer said.

I'm less sure of my view on varying lockdowns, but I am completely against limiting private gatherings, or churches. Those are clearly protected by the 1st amendment. I would not want to be in a crowd of 500 people right now but it's legally my right (or it was before Covid burned the constitution).

 

[spat]

Covid cases are surging quickly. This was evident a couple of weeks ago. In Monroe county they are cranking up at a terrible pace. Nationally we are seeing a terrible spike in new cases, and a terrible spike as one would think in deaths. I hope that vaccine is as good as Pfizer said.

I'm less sure of my view on varying lockdowns, but I am completely against limiting private gatherings, or churches. Those are clearly protected by the 1st amendment. I would not want to be in a crowd of 500 people right now but it's legally my right (or it was before Covid burned the constitution).

Except the only thing a lockdown can do is prevent healthcare from being overwhelmed.

We aren't anywhere near the peaks of last spring, and we weren't overwhelmed then.

The more draconian the lockdown the less time you can maintain it. So cranking it down now is wrong from a practical standpoint, even setting aside the whole "you have no authority" issue.

 

[Bigfoot]

If masks and social distancing really do work.
If all of the restrictions really do work.
Then why, are the numbers spiking?
From my point of view most everybody is complying.

That is unfortunate IMO... All complying has done is strip us of our freedoms.
The Chinese Flu is going to run it's coarse regardless.

 

[Bigfoot]

The goalposts keep moving back and forth, back and forth. And, back and forth.
That is why at this point I believe nothing anyone says about the Chinese Flu.
That is why I will not and have not complied with any of this.

The moving goalposts was my first clue that this is all bullshit.
The politicalization of the Chinese Flu was my second clue.
99+% survival rate for the majority of people is another clue.

Either the so called experts do not know what they are talking about.
Or, they are lying and constantly adjusting their lies to fit an agenda...

One of many examples... Published 10-22-20

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www.kusi.com

 

[holdover]

Covid cases are surging quickly. This was evident a couple of weeks ago. In Monroe county they are cranking up at a terrible pace. Nationally we are seeing a terrible spike in new cases, and a terrible spike as one would think in deaths. I hope that vaccine is as good as Pfizer said.

I'm less sure of my view on varying lockdowns, but I am completely against limiting private gatherings, or churches. Those are clearly protected by the 1st amendment. I would not want to be in a crowd of 500 people right now but it's legally my right (or it was before Covid burned the constitution).

Its spikeing so much that I dont know anyone who has it. And either do most of the people on this forum.

Dont know one person who has died from it .

 

[Steal2B]

When does it become acceptable to shoot anyone attempting to enforce this draconian BS?

Asking for a friend.

... wait, don’t call it a shoot because we don't like that term.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Next steps to controlling your life. Mask compliance was a test.

How Ticketmaster Plans to Check Your Vaccine Status for Concerts: Exclusive

Ticketmaster has been working on a framework for post-pandemic fan safety that uses smart phones to verify fans' vaccination status or COVID-19 test results.

www.billboard.com

 

[Bigfoot]

TL;DR - I am an American ... A fucking virus does not change that fact... Period.

The masks and other restrictions do not work. If they did, then why is there a spike?
I think that is an honest question.

The Chinese Flu is not going anywhere. Its here to stay...
I am not about to live the rest of my life in fear dictated by the virus.
Or the Democrat dictators dictations, who are using the virus for their own purposes.

IDGAF about the virus. It's the last thing on my mind when I leave my house.
I do not take any precautions. I already have my vaccination.
It is my healthy immune system.

A bunch of us, My friends and I. My family members and I.
We all hang out with each other. None of us wear a mask or social distance when we are together. Not only is there not a spike in our group. None of us has got infected with the Chinese Flu to begin with. None of us personally know anyone else that has been infected with the Chinese Flu.

I don't know what to make of this with any certainty.
I have been lied to so many times by the politically connected so called experts how can I?
How can anyone? Driven by fear? Fear installed by the Fake News media?

Flatten the curve - 2 weeks... 8-9 months ago.
First it was don't wear a mask ... Then, you must wear a mask.
Lock everything down ... Don't lock everything down ... Lock everything down again.
The politicians and bureaucrats attitude of rules for thee, but not for me.
On and on... It's all politically motivated bullshit.

I will not play along, I have not played along since the start.
My Life, My Liberty, My Pursuit of Happiness ... My Rules
My Face ... My Rules
My House ... My Rules
etc.

I am an American ... A fucking virus does not change that fact... Period.

FUAC - FUJB

Fuck the doomers... Being a doomer is not the American way.

 

[Blimey]

Its spikeing so much that I dont know anyone who has it. And either do most of the people on this forum.

Dont know one person who has died from it .

That really isn't how statistics work; whether you personally know somebody with an ailment or not.

 

[spat]

That really isn't how statistics work; whether you personally know somebody with an ailment or not.

Well, it does set an upper bound on the rate. If you don't trust the official statistics that's the best you can do.

 

[Jmac00]

TL;DR - I am an American ... A fucking virus does not change that fact... Period.

The masks and other restrictions do not work. If they did, then why is there a spike?
I think that is an honest question.

The Chinese Flu is not going anywhere. Its here to stay...
I am not about to live the rest of my life in fear dictated by the virus.
Or the Democrat dictators dictations, who are using the virus for their own purposes.

IDGAF about the virus. It's the last thing on my mind when I leave my house.
I do not take any precautions. I already have my vaccination.
It is my healthy immune system.

A bunch of us, My friends and I. My family members and I.
We all hang out with each other. None of us wear a mask or social distance when we are together. Not only is there not a spike in our group. None of us has got infected with the Chinese Flu to begin with. None of us personally know anyone else that has been infected with the Chinese Flu.

I don't know what to make of this with any certainty.
I have been lied to so many times by the politically connected so called experts how can I?
How can anyone? Driven by fear? Fear installed by the Fake News media?

Flatten the curve - 2 weeks... 8-9 months ago.
First it was don't wear a mask ... Then, you must wear a mask.
Lock everything down ... Don't lock everything down ... Lock everything down again.
The politicians and bureaucrats attitude of rules for thee, but not for me.
On and on... It's all politically motivated bullshit.

I will not play along, I have not played along since the start.
My Life, My Liberty, My Pursuit of Happiness ... My Rules
My Face ... My Rules
My House ... My Rules
etc.

I am an American ... A fucking virus does not change that fact... Period.

FUAC - FUJB

Fuck the doomers... Being a doomer is not the American way.

I can't like this enough I may even copy and past this to my FakeBook page, just to see if the suckermydickberger fact checks it or bans me

 

[holdover]

That really isn't how statistics work; whether you personally know somebody with an ailment or not.

Well here's a statistic for you

As of today.

Erie County

Total cases 16,028 +422

Recovered -

Deaths 676

In 2018, Erie County, NY had a population of 920k people with a median age of 40.3 and a median household income of $56369. Between 2017 and 2018 the ...


Thats 676 deaths over a 10 month period divided by 920,000 , Hows that for a stat? 1% of 920,000 is 9200 right? I have to go all the way to the blue beads on my abacus to figure it out.

You have a better chance of being eaten by a circus lion at a 7-11 on a Tuesday night.

and if you check the global stats they are close to the same , the rates consistent. The math does'nt lie.

 

[spat]

Well here's a statistic for you

As of today.

Erie County

Total cases 16,028 +422

Recovered -

Deaths 676

In 2018, Erie County, NY had a population of 920k people with a median age of 40.3 and a median household income of $56369. Between 2017 and 2018 the ...


Thats 676 deaths over a 10 month period divided by 920,000 , Hows that for a stat? 1% of 920,000 is 9200 right? I have to go all the way to the blue beads on my abacus to figure it out.

You have a better chance of being eaten by a circus lion at a 7-11 on a Tuesday night.

and if you check the global stats they are close to the same , the rates consistent. The math does'nt lie.

Here's another one. Taken directly from the CDC website.

It shows deaths per week for the last several years, along with the 'expected' number and marks the "excess" data points over the expected number.

The important part of this graph is that it starts at 0, not some artificial number chosen to dramatize the covid effect.

Yes, covid is worse than the flu. But if you look back at the 2018 flu season, you'll note that it can get pretty nasty too, and we didn't do jack shit about it.

So we went from "business as usual" to "burn the economy and constitution to the ground" over a few % increase ?

Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19

Figures present excess deaths associated with COVID-19 at the national and state levels.

www.cdc.gov

 

[Bigfoot]

COVID-19 is worse than the flu... But not by a whole lot.
COVID-19 is killing the same people that the flu does.

@spat 's post above this one is spot on.

 

[Robin]

I think ear plugs would be more effective.
Robin

 

[Bigfoot]

 

[Defilade]

COVID-19 is worse than the flu... But not by a whole lot.
COVID-19 is killing the same people that the flu does.

@spat 's post above this one is spot on.

How would you know? The PCR tests have shown to be bullshit.

 

[Bigfoot]

How would you know? The PCR tests have shown to be bullshit.

 

[Saltwater60]

Its spikeing so much that I dont know anyone who has it. And either do most of the people on this forum.

Dont know one person who has died from it .

My neighbor across the street had it. She’s a nurse and worked solely with Covid patients. Her husband got sick one to two weeks after and he tested negative?? Yeah I’m confused to. It was past flu season.
My friends 93 year old mother was in a rising home dying and in hospice. She died they tested her and she was positive. Boom that’s a Covid death.
I know a few friends that were sick as fuck. A dude who’s 45ish was on deaths door coughing up blood. Tested him and he was negative??
Another friend tested positive and his other 4 family member’s tested negative. They were camping all together in a 19’ camper. He explained the situation and stated he thought it was a false positive. Three places refused to re-test him when he explained. He didn’t explain to the forth and just got another test. Negative!!
This shit doesn’t add up to me anymore. We are supposedly testing record numbers of 150,000 people. I’ve driven by a few testing sites and never seen a car there. How is that possible?

 

[Bigfoot]

Joe Biden campaigning on a platform of a dark winter of lockdowns and raising taxes.
"Got more votes than any other Presidential nominee in history..."

I don't believe that for one second.

 

[Bob]

Its spikeing so much that I dont know anyone who has it. And either do most of the people on this forum.

Dont know one person who has died from it .

My sister had it. A coworker had it. My girlfriend's daughter had it. In my sister's case and my coworker's case, they both described it as being like a severe case of the flu. In the case of my girlfriend's daughter, she had cold-like symptoms for three days and was over it.

 

[holdover]

Did They die? I knew 2 people that had it, that makes 5 between us. Not trying to be a dick, but its no where near as bad as they are telling us.

 

[Defilade]

My sister had it. A coworker had it. My girlfriend's daughter had it. In my sister's case and my coworker's case, they both described it as being like a severe case of the flu. In the case of my girlfriend's daughter, she had cold-like symptoms for three days and was over it.

And they were rescued by their immune systems. Not a vaccine. 99.9% recovery rate proves that.

 

[Bigfoot]

TL;DR again... I'm wound up over a national shutdown.
The virus is NOT that deadly to JUSTIFY any of this.


When this thing first started someone in the coronavirus thread said that when this is over.
Some of the members here may not be with us any longer.
That was a sobering thought...

It got my attention for a short time. Then the goalposts started moving. Then the politicalization started. Then the fudging of the numbers became apparent... Then I completely stopped worrying about the Chinese Flu and got on with my life.

In the beginning, before I realized what is actually going on. I did worry about what's going to happen to my wife and my animals if this virus kills me. After a couple of sleepless nights I put a stop to that shit. When I get in my truck I don't think, OMG, what will happen to the wife if I die in a MVA. It's the same thing IMO but without the fear mongering non stop propaganda.

Fuck China... Fuck the Liars... Fuck the Fake News... Fuck the Doomers, Fuck the Fudged Numbers... Fuck Fauci... Fuck Biden... Fuck Cuomo... Fuck anymore Lockdowns... Fuck the political elite picking winners and losers... And fuck the politically driven overreaction to this virus.
It's about power and money, not public safety IMO.

It will be interesting to watch the blowback of a possible Biden national shutdown.
Not everyone will roll over and bleat and baa.

This thread has me wound up... LOL
I'm supposed to be in my tree stand by now...

I am just so very tired of this bullshit.
The virus is NOT that deadly to JUSTIFY any of this.

 

[holdover]

My neighbor across the street had it. She’s a nurse and worked solely with Covid patients. Her husband got sick one to two weeks after and he tested negative?? Yeah I’m confused to. It was past flu season.
My friends 93 year old mother was in a rising home dying and in hospice. She died they tested her and she was positive. Boom that’s a Covid death.
I know a few friends that were sick as fuck. A dude who’s 45ish was on deaths door coughing up blood. Tested him and he was negative??
Another friend tested positive and his other 4 family member’s tested negative. They were camping all together in a 19’ camper. He explained the situation and stated he thought it was a false positive. Three places refused to re-test him when he explained. He didn’t explain to the forth and just got another test. Negative!!
This shit doesn’t add up to me anymore. We are supposedly testing record numbers of 150,000 people. I’ve driven by a few testing sites and never seen a car there. How is that possible?

My cousin and wife were over my house, They are true believers, asked me if I wanted to them to wear masks, I said I dont care , whatever makes ya happy doesn't bother me, one way or the other. SO they took them off We had pizza , and his wife picked them off and gave them to me and I ate them , She go'es to the hospital that night didnt feel good, tests positive for covid,. I was fine. she had it and was in my house for hours and I ate her pepperoni , Her husband goes the next day and tests negative. a week later he still tested negative.

 

[holdover]

TL;DR again... I'm wound up over a national shutdown.
The virus is NOT that deadly to JUSTIFY any of this.


When this thing first started someone in the coronavirus thread said that when this is over.
Some of the members here may not be with us any longer.
That was a sobering thought...

I remember that, I said lets give it a few months and see what happens

 

[Bigfoot]

China Joe Biden's lockdown plans ...

The Democrats are way more dangerous to We The People.
Than the Chinese Flu will ever be.

 

[holdover]

Its a statistical fact that most people who died of covid voted for Biden.