US Army DID seize Dominion Servers in Germany

[tirwin1]

If that really went down, Trump should declassify the whole operation, and very publicly award the officers responsible. Should make a big deal out of them as national heroes.

Even if it burns a bunch of identities and facilities.

Would be pretty hard for the MSM to pretend it didn't exist then.

Yes. But it's the same thing with the entire russia gate hoax and the durham investigation. Trump should order the release of all documents without redactions. Let the chips fall where they may. Instead he merely gave Barr the authority to release whatever Barr deems appropriate. That guarantees this information will never see the light of day.

At some point in time, even when playing 4-D chess, one party has to get to checkmate.

 

[Defilade]

I have never heard of "creativedestructionmedia.com" or WVW tv.

Couldn't Flynn and McInerney talk to someone from a reputable news organization? Hell, I'd even accept newsmax. But these fly by night outlets don't have any credibility with me. I'm sure everyone that listens to those media organizations will take everything they say at face value, (which may be why Flynn/McInerney agreed to be interviewed).

So Anderson Cooper? Yeah ok! Get yourself a beer and watch some Christmas special. Lol......

 

[holdover]

I would not be surprised to see some sort of military action, mass arrests of conspirators by early January, if this is true . Im not saying it is ,just passing along the info . Curious to this Gina Haspel show her face too.

 

[tirwin1]

So Anderson Cooper? Yeah ok! Get yourself a beer and watch some Christmas special. Lol......

Even if trump or powell provided evidence I am certain cnn would ignore it. At best they would have a panel discussion about how horrible it is that classified information is being leaked by trump. Cnn wouldn't cover the story even if it was provided in a comic book format so the morons at that station could understand it.

But talking to media organizations very few people have ever heard from isn't going to convince anyone. And if trump wants to stay in the white house he is going to have to convince an awful lot of people.

 

[holdover]

There maybe reasons they chose that channel. they may have needed to know that the information was going to get out , and not get buried . Some one under the radar that nobody had control over.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

There maybe reasons they chose that channel. they may have needed to know that the information was going to get out , and not get buried . Some one under the radar that nobody had control over.

The story better start getting out soon before a bunch of people have very tragic unexpected suicides.

 

[holdover]

Its interesting that in light of what the generals said they were not asked to clarify it on the big networks

 

[GOPerfect]

I have never heard of "creativedestructionmedia.com" or WVW tv.

Couldn't Flynn and McInerney talk to someone from a reputable news organization? Hell, I'd even accept newsmax. But these fly by night outlets don't have any credibility with me. I'm sure everyone that listens to those media organizations will take everything they say at face value, (which may be why Flynn/McInerney agreed to be interviewed).

This may be far fetched but, what are reputable these days? Serious question..


FOX? MSNBC? CNN? None of them are in my opinion.

Local news paper? Nope.

I have been getting news from smaller groups for years, seems to be where the truth lies.

 

[GOPerfect]

Its interesting that in light of what the generals said they were not asked to clarify it on the big networks

That is because the larger news groups have been tanked.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Its interesting that in light of what the generals said they were not asked to clarify it on the big networks

This exactly.

Nothing.

Not even laughed off. Not asked to clarify. Not asked "why" even.

Nothing.


Those in power can grasp the implications of what he meant and they want no part of this story getting out it would be detrimental to their cause. They really badly want it to disappear faster than hunter.

 

[tirwin1]

I would not be surprised to see some sort of military action, mass arrests of conspirators by early January, if this is true . Im not saying it is ,just passing along the info . Curious to this Gina Haspel show her face too.

IF there is going to be such a thing then the closer these "mass arrests of conspirators" get to january 20th, the greater the risk of civil war. Trump and team need to prove the election was fraudulent much earlier than that.

Not that I have much objection to mass arrests of conspirators. As PJ O'rourke once wrote, the fun part is making out the enemies list.

 

[Defilade]

Even if trump or powell provided evidence I am certain cnn would ignore it. At best they would have a panel discussion about how horrible it is that classified information is being leaked by trump. Cnn wouldn't cover the story even if it was provided in a comic book format so the morons at that station could understand it.

But talking to media organizations very few people have ever heard from isn't going to convince anyone. And if trump wants to stay in the white house he is going to have to convince an awful lot of people.

Trump and others have been trying like crazy to get info to people. You must be aware of the enormous censoring that has been in the works on multiple platforms right? For God's sake they censor POTUS's Twitter account. Who the fuck does or gets away with that?

 

[tirwin1]

There maybe reasons they chose that channel. they may have needed to know that the information was going to get out , and not get buried . Some one under the radar that nobody had control over.

You think talking to obscure media organizations will get this information out? The only people talking about it are people on right leaning internet forums like this one. The story doesn't have to get buried by anyone. It will never make it to the general population.

 

[holdover]

Im sure they have something planned. they will definitely inform the people of exactly what happened right before or right after . It would be undeniable proof that some type of treason has taken place .

Think about it , if the story in Frankfurt is true. Trump just cant give an unlawful order to his generals to seize the servers. He would have to show them proof. He would have to explain to the generals that what has happened was treason . They just wouldnt follow an unlawfull order on a whim. .

 

[GOPerfect]

You think talking to obscure media organizations will get this information out? The only people talking about it are people on right leaning internet forums like this one. The story doesn't have to get buried by anyone. It will never make it to the general population.

Sure, especially when the MSM ignores it. They could pick it up at anytime.

 

[holdover]

You think talking to obscure media organizations will get this information out? The only people talking about it are people on right leaning internet forums like this one. The story doesn't have to get buried by anyone. It will never make it to the general population.

Well how would you propose they do it when the main stream refuses to address it?

 

[tirwin1]

Trump and others have been trying like crazy to get info to people. You must be aware of the enormous censoring that has been in the works on multiple platforms right? For God's sake they censor POTUS's Twitter account. Who the fuck does or gets away with that?

That is entirely true. That's why successful action in the courts is required. The media can't ignore rulings that go in trump's favor and indicate biden won via fraud. But they certainly can ignore creativedestruction.com and WVW tv. Prior to today I had never heard of them, and my guess is 99.9% of the population will never hear of them.

 

[masterswimmer]

I have never heard of "creativedestructionmedia.com" or WVW tv.

Couldn't Flynn and McInerney talk to someone from a reputable news organization? Hell, I'd even accept newsmax. But these fly by night outlets don't have any credibility with me. I'm sure everyone that listens to those media organizations will take everything they say at face value, (which may be why Flynn/McInerney agreed to be interviewed).

Name one, just one, of these 'reputable news organizations' you speak of. Every one of the MSM organizations are complicit as well as aiding and abetting the criminals in treason.

Why would Trump, Giuliani, Powell, Gen McInerney, Gen Flynn, Wood, ever release any highly sensitive, earth shattering intel to them? They'd only bury it or spin it like they've been doing for years.

Hell, Trump wasn't ever able to get a fair report by any 'news' agency since before his inauguration. That's precisely why he took to Twitter. That way nobody could twist or spin his words. He provided full context on his own. And then Twitter, FB, Instagram all censor the President of the United States? WTF? That's not complicit to the deep States crimes?

Hang every one of those mofo's! On national television!

 

[tirwin1]

Well how would you propose they do it when the main stream refuses to address it?

Successful action in the courts where the evidence is presented and rulings are made based on the evidence. Mainstream media can't ignore that.

 

[holdover]

LOL, your Dismissing the actual conversation with multiple generals because the source is in question.

So everthing the generals said is false because they had to go to third rate channel to disseminate the information.

Your throwing the baby away with the bath water.

 

[holdover]

Successful action in the courts where the evidence is presented and rulings are made based on the evidence. Mainstream media can't ignore that.

I didnt know the investigation was over yet.

 

[Robin]

It is interesting that big media isn't even mentioning this story in the context of a far fetched rumor, its a total blackout.
The sources reporting this story aren't far fetched, they are up and comers, betting that reporting the truth will eventually make them as a go to news source.
Robin

 

[tirwin1]

Name one, just one, of these 'reputable news organizations' you speak of.

I mentioned newsmax in my post:

Couldn't Flynn and McInerney talk to someone from a reputable news organization? Hell, I'd even accept newsmax.

Taking at face value information from sources I have never heard of just because I agree with them is never a good idea.

 

[masterswimmer]

Successful action in the courts where the evidence is presented and rulings are made based on the evidence. Mainstream media can't ignore that.

So Hunter Biden's laptop wasn't evidence enough for the MSM to bury the big guy?
Where were those media outlets on that?

Oh yeah, they were too busy with fabricated impeachment, or Russiangate, or just plain orangeman bad. Give me a break. There is no 'reputable' news media. So getting it on the 5 o'clock news ain't happening.

 

[GOPerfect]

Air Force General McInerney exposes CIA vote hacking - Headlines 360

Retired and highly decorated Air Force General, Thomas G. McInerney, came forward to expose the CIA on vote hacking.

headlines360.news

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

WVW-TV Exclusive: Lt. General Michael Flynn's First Interview Since President Trump's Pardon

freerepublic.com

 

[masterswimmer]

I mentioned newsmax in my post:

Couldn't Flynn and McInerney talk to someone from a reputable news organization? Hell, I'd even accept newsmax.

Taking at face value information from sources I have never heard of just because I agree with them is never a good idea.

@holdover said it as good as anyone:

LOL, your Dismissing the actual conversation with multiple generals because the source is in question.

So everthing the generals said is false because they had to go to third rate channel to disseminate the information.

Your throwing the baby away with the bath water.

 

[tirwin1]

LOL, your Dismissing the actual conversation with multiple generals because the source is in question.

Yes. Did the interviewer challenge them or just accept everything they said because he agreed with them? Is that journalism or propaganda?

My preference would be for Flynn/McInerney to be challenged by the most skeptical journalist available. If the story holds true it should survive a few skeptical questions, correct?

I make no claims regarding what the generals said was true or false. My BS detector always raises a red flag when individuals with an agenda utilize obscure media channels to communicate their message.

But let's just assume I agree with everything they said. Now what? How do I convince others - point them to the site? Most of my friends will have the same skeptical view of obscure news sites as I do.

 

[tirwin1]

So Hunter Biden's laptop wasn't evidence enough for the MSM to bury the big guy?
Where were those media outlets on that?

Oh yeah, they were too busy with fabricated impeachment, or Russiangate, or just plain orangeman bad. Give me a break. There is no 'reputable' news media. So getting it on the 5 o'clock news ain't happening.

Fair point.

But what if there is an interview of a general on a site like democraticunderground and he says Flynn and McInerney are frauds and that he has evidence trump is going to declare martial law and appoint himself dictator for life? What would you say to those people? Most likely you would say the source has no credibility because it is an obscure left wing propaganda organization.

See the problem?

 

[Phazer]

Ummm.....our military forces engaged in a forceful raid on allied, sovereign, territory? Seriously?

I heard this last week. I'm still not seeing anything about this from any "credible" new source (whatever the hell that means nowadays).