House inches closer to enacting slavery reparations

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Just googled how much every black person should receive...

After Reparations Study Suggests $151 Million for Each African American, Experts Say Money Alone Isn't Enough

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Reparations Study Pitches $151M Per Descendant—Money Alone Is Not Enough

Calculations for the financial cost to somewhat atone for slavery vary, with scholars agreeing that no matter the sum, more than just giving money must be done.
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Among its estimates for the costs were around $12-$13 trillion in 2018 dollars, based upon estimates looking at land-based, stemming from the promise made to freed slaves, and price-based, considering what slave prices were.

But looking at a wage-based cost and factoring in interest it assessed the cost could be counted as up to $6.2 quadrillion as of 2018.
 
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livingston said:
Just googled how much every black person should receive...

After Reparations Study Suggests $151 Million for Each African American, Experts Say Money Alone Isn't Enough

www.newsweek.com

Reparations Study Pitches $151M Per Descendant—Money Alone Is Not Enough

Calculations for the financial cost to somewhat atone for slavery vary, with scholars agreeing that no matter the sum, more than just giving money must be done.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
Among its estimates for the costs were around $12-$13 trillion in 2018 dollars, based upon estimates looking at land-based, stemming from the promise made to freed slaves, and price-based, considering what slave prices were.

But looking at a wage-based cost and factoring in interest it assessed the cost could be counted as up to $6.2 quadrillion as of 2018.
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Any study that suggests people are owed more than all the money that ever existed is probably badly flawed.

Just saying.
 
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why are they thinking of paying them and slow joe says " No Amendment is Absolute "

so the 13th can go too joe ..

 
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Only ONE race, the human race.
The rest is bs.
If God then we are all brothers.
If no God then we are all brothers from the same rock soup (primordial).
All the rest is one person trying to control an other.
 
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It's quite simple.

If I'm going to be expected to pay reparations, even if only by using MY tax dollars, then I will have slaves first. I refuse to be punished for something I did not do, and, contrary to their misguided beliefs, something I never benefited from.

Any and all reparations should come from those who actually benefited from slavery *cough*Kamala*cough*
 
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What about the Europeeun and Afreekun slavers when do they pay up?
U.S.A. ~89yrs. of slavery, the rest of the world 100s of years.
 
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Let's just make a daytime TV gameshow out of it. Millions could sit at home all day, instead of going to work, to watch contestants try to answer multi-part questions, solve complex puzzles, and then endure feats of strength. At the end, the remaining contestants will have a chance to prove their slave lineage prior to being able to claim their prize. It can be aired live inside a US Mint and the reparations can be printed right there on the spot.
 
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Wait, will the payments be in the new chi-na dollars or the same old U.S. dollars that we printed our way out of bankruptcy under oblama?
 
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This insanity is never going to stop until both political parties are abolished. Every time the envelope is pushed, BOTH benefit by rallying their base for and against. This is why our democracy doesn't work anymore. It benefits the political class at the expense of the masses.
 
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I thought that this stuff would never get far because of its complexity but If they simply make it money for black people then it’s easier to implement. At that point people will increasingly argue they are black and the government will have to come up with blackness tests. That will be fun to watch politically.
 
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I've changed my mind.

I'm now I'm favor of all sorts of social programs and free money. Just hit ctrl+P and let it ride.


I'm not even being sarcastic or tongue in cheek. 100% genuine.


Send out as much "free money" as they can print. Give it to as many people as possible who will make terrible decisions with their money.


I think watching the social experiment would be hilarious. They would ironically become even more dependent upon the government handouts to keep up with their new more expensive lifestyles all while the government becomes less capable to sustain itself. It would help hasten the collapse of the USD.

It's going to happen, it's only a matter of time.

Just keep giving out free money. We can't stop it. It will also further increase class and racial strife and conflict. Many would find new ways to be mad when either they are not included or they see money being wasted.
 
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Drinkthekoolaid said:
I've changed my mind.

I'm now I'm favor of all sorts of social programs and free money. Just hit ctrl+P and let it ride.


I'm not even being sarcastic or tongue in cheek. 100% genuine.


Send out as much "free money" as they can print. Give it to as many people as possible who will make terrible decisions with their money.


I think watching the social experiment would be hilarious. They would ironically become even more dependent upon the government handouts to keep up with their new more expensive lifestyles all while the government becomes less capable to sustain itself. It would help hasten the collapse of the USD.

It's going to happen, it's only a matter of time.

Just keep giving out free money. We can't stop it. It will also further increase class and racial strife and conflict. Many would find new ways to be mad when either they are not included or they see money being wasted.
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After this experiment fails is when the violence starts. Not the kind we see now but some hardcore slaughters as has happened so often in history as states fail.
 
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If someone can be a transgender, someone can be transracial. Much simpler, needs little to no medical intervention. Actually there are quite a few already. Who is there to deny people their race preference?
 
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Few decades ago, when LGBT push was only about tolerance. I remember people on AOL boards were joking around about same sex marriages. LGBT posters would get angry and call it scare tactics. .... and here we are. There are no limits to idiocy and people will accept it sooner or later.
 
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Is the Dutch Trading Co. being held culpable?

Are the tribes in Africa that stole their neighbors and sold them to the slavers that stayed in harbor bring held culpable?

If race appropriation is such a problem then why are African Americans dressing in Western Clothing, using Western Education, Medicine, etc...

How and why is it convenient to apply racism in a manner that benefits the minority but dismisses and completely ignores the same things applied to the majority! How does being part of a majority erase racism?

When the $ freely given to assuage guilt of the Liberal Progressive consciousness is exhausted and gone. What next handout, to prop up the portion of society that after generations of affirmative action and special social assistance have failed, will be necessary? When does, or where does it stop?

Why are other marginalized minority populace in the U.S. be recognized and supported in the same way? Want to talk about the American Indian...? No, guess not!

Bottom line is reparations will change nothing, fix nothing and do nothing, but compound the issues already existent and create more! What about the next generation of 10th generation removed slaves... Those unborne? Should $ be set aside for them as well?

What a bunch of buffoonery!
 
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The U.S.A. Streets are paved in gold, get off your fat lazy ass and work for some.
Look at the American Indians they would still, and some are, be slugs on the economy even when they are a free nation within a nation. Thinking before casinos. (Buy the way I am married to an American Indian, non-res).
 
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Drinkthekoolaid said:
Exactly my point

The militant SJW liberals in favor of this crap will be the ones who fare the worst. Unintented consequences.
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The useful idiots are always in the first round to go to the gulags.

They have proven themselves dangerous to those in charge. And once their former masters cement their authority as the ones "in charge" the idiots can no longer be tolerated.
 
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Cooolone said:
Is the Dutch Trading Co. being held culpable?

Are the tribes in Africa that stole their neighbors and sold them to the slavers that stayed in harbor bring held culpable?

If race appropriation is such a problem then why are African Americans dressing in Western Clothing, using Western Education, Medicine, etc...

How and why is it convenient to apply racism in a manner that benefits the minority but dismisses and completely ignores the same things applied to the majority! How does being part of a majority erase racism?

When the $ freely given to assuage guilt of the Liberal Progressive consciousness is exhausted and gone. What next handout, to prop up the portion of society that after generations of affirmative action and special social assistance have failed, will be necessary? When does, or where does it stop?

Why are other marginalized minority populace in the U.S. be recognized and supported in the same way? Want to talk about the American Indian...? No, guess not!

Bottom line is reparations will change nothing, fix nothing and do nothing, but compound the issues already existent and create more! What about the next generation of 10th generation removed slaves... Those unborne? Should $ be set aside for them as well?

What a bunch of buffoonery!
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It was only a couple years ago that they got all the dictionaries to add the phrase "right wing" to the definition of facism.

They realized the original definition was describing them and they didn't like it.

Never mind that the facists were all socialists, they're right wing now.
 
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But not ALL blacks were slaves so be sure to have your Great Great Grand dads...Ownership ID card to show for your check. Also I think way way back by family was enslaved and built the pyramids and I never got paid. Do I file a claim with the labor board for that or that gonna be taken care of in reparations...we start trying to make up for the past monitarily we will never be able to do all justice. was it wrong...yes..we learned our ways and fought a war over it and was changed. DONE....it was 300 year ago.. My goodness. Just another form of socialism. We cant linger on this issue... my goodness.
maybe that is just my white privileage talking but my goodness...now we are dragging up more divide...especially from the pasts past.........God the insanity in it all.
I cant wait to see how they put a factor or $ value on this?!
and the rest of us will pay for it in our taxes...Does this mean if I dont have a slave owner list from my Great Great grand Pappi...I dont have to pay the additional tax.??? of If I know I came from the north or can prove an ancestor fought in the civil war??
Now im just rambling I dont know.
 
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GOPerfect said:
I believe I have posted this before, I will repeat...


A 16 year old black kid today was NOT a slave.

His father was NOT a slave.

His Grand father was NOT a slave.

His Great Grandfather was NOT a slave.

His Great-Great Grandfather was NOT a slave.

His Great-Great-Great Grandfather was NOT a slave.

His Great-Great-Great-Great Grandfather was NOT a slave.

His Great-Great-Great-Great-great Grandfather may have been a slave, maybe not.

These people would need to go back at least six possibly seven or eight generations to show slavery.

This is beyond a joke. Anything that is lacking in any community, especially black Americans is 100% their fault. No one else forces them to be a menace to themselves or their way of life.

How about acting normal; get an education, get a job, take care of the family that you helped create? Stop breaking the laws. Stop selling drugs. Stop being criminals. Stop quitting school. Stop. Stop acting like you are owed something. Stop acting like you are owed anything. You are not.

Seven fucking generations.

Hell, If we all were to trace that far back, I am sure you could find something that others did wrong to your people.
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BINGO!

How does it make sense to anyone to take money from someone who did nothing wrong in order to give it to someone who was not personally wronged?

My family came to the United States in the late 1920s. My family was not here during slavery. My family never owned slaves. My family fled tyranny with the clothes on their back in order to get here. Why should descendants of those who never took part in slavery give anything to people who have not been enslaved for generations?

The Left should not be surprised by school shootings by disaffected teenagers. Years ago, students were taught Americanism: That the U.S. was a great experiment in governance, a grand melting pot of people and ideas, and a place where anyone who worked hard could go from rags to riches. Now, the schools tell students: America is a horrible racist place founded on evil intentions, that they are being oppressed by everyone who looks different, that they are victims of an unjust society, and that no matter what they do they will be kept down. THIS is the problem in our society.
 
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