DEMOCRATS SEE TRUMP SUPPORTERS AND THE UNVACCINATED AS BIGGEST THREAT TO NATION

[livingston]

DEMOCRATS SEE TRUMP SUPPORTERS AND THE UNVACCINATED AS BIGGEST THREAT TO NATION​

Fifty-seven percent (57%) of Democratic voters believe supporters of Donald Trump are a serious threat to the nation. A Scott Rasmussen national survey found that 56% of those in President Biden’s party also consider the unvaccinated a serious threat. That’s a higher level of concern than Democrats express about the Taliban (44% see it as a serious threat); China (44%), or Russia (37%).

Democrats See Trump Supporters and the Unvaccinated As Biggest Threat to Nation

Fifty-seven percent (57%) of Democratic voters believe supporters of Donald Trump are a serious threat to the nation. A Scott Rasmussen national survey found that 56% of those in President Biden's party also consider the unvaccinated a serious threat. That's a higher level of concern than...

scottrasmussen.com

 

[GOYABEAN]

DEMOCRATS SEE TRUMP SUPPORTERS AND THE UNVACCINATED AS BIGGEST THREAT TO NATION​

Fifty-seven percent (57%) of Democratic voters believe supporters of Donald Trump are a serious threat to the nation. A Scott Rasmussen national survey found that 56% of those in President Biden’s party also consider the unvaccinated a serious threat. That’s a higher level of concern than Democrats express about the Taliban (44% see it as a serious threat); China (44%), or Russia (37%).

Democrats See Trump Supporters and the Unvaccinated As Biggest Threat to Nation

Fifty-seven percent (57%) of Democratic voters believe supporters of Donald Trump are a serious threat to the nation. A Scott Rasmussen national survey found that 56% of those in President Biden's party also consider the unvaccinated a serious threat. That's a higher level of concern than...

scottrasmussen.com

They must be looking into a mirror when the Demoturds said that thinking about themselves

 

[Steal2B]

 

[ArmedCorgi]

How many conservatives/republicans view liberals/democrats the same way? We are at a very dangerous point now.

 

[libertysnake]

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After the fuckups they did this time, and the crackdowns on personal liberty, the taxing, the absolute abysmal failure on economic policy... I could go on. They're fucked in 2022 for sure, and probably 2024.

At this point the only way they're getting 2022 is if they stuff the ballot box

 

[spat]

At this point the only way they're getting 2022 is if they stuff the ballot box

And then we will know for sure.

The only question is what we will do about it.

 

[GOYABEAN]

And then we will know for sure.

The only question is what we will do about it.

Sad to say the majority zilch zip nada

 

[spat]

Sad to say the majority zilch zip nada

Doesn't take a majority.

Just a few % willing to put it all on the line.

 

[S&W Fan]

The Nazi narrative.

 

[SonOfSun]

How many conservatives/republicans view liberals/democrats the same way? We are at a very dangerous point now.

That's a sad truth right there.

 

[GOYABEAN]

Doesn't take a majority.

Just a few % willing to put it all on the line.

Correct but with those in charge now the few % have a much bigger hill to climb .

 

[spat]

That's a sad truth right there.

I think the difference is that the far left view everyone on the right as evil.

The right views the leaders on the far left as evil, and the majority of their followers as mere dupes.

It's the dehumanizing the left is doing to conservatives that is a very scary proposition.

Historically conditioning your supporters to view your opponents as less than human is a precursor to atrocities.

 

[SonOfSun]

I think the difference is that the far left view everyone on the right as evil.

The right views the leaders on the far left as evil, and the majority of their followers as mere dupes.

It's the dehumanizing the left is doing to conservatives that is a very scary proposition.

Historically conditioning your supporters to view your opponents as less than human is a precursor to atrocitieBTW.

I don't think many of them view the right as evil. The sense I get is that they view the rights actions as selfishly problematic. An example, someone I know was ranting about people not getting vaccinated putting them at risk of covid in a secondhand smoke sort of way. Not evil, just selfish. I think it's also about mentality. People on the left tend to be more group focused and people on the right more individual rights focused. I think that's why you see a lot of frustration and push from the left to get vaccinated. They see it as everybody doing their part so everyone as a whole is better off. While people on the right view it as a personal choice and value their individual freedom to take or not take the vaccine.

Not speaking for myself in the above stuff, more of my direct observation. Thinking the right is selfishly problematic is not good, but not as bad as "the right is evil that needs to be defeated".

 

[libertysnake]

How many conservatives/republicans view liberals/democrats the same way? We are at a very dangerous point now.

The biggest danger to our country is the two party system, without a fucking doubt. It's been fucking this country hard for decades. Some are waking up, but not all.

The biggest question is where do we go from here? And how do we hold those responsible accountable? Those are the questions we need to answer as a country to move forward.

 

[spat]

I don't think many of them view the right as evil. The sense I get is that they view the rights actions as selfishly problematic. An example, someone I know was ranting about people not getting vaccinated putting them at risk of covid in a secondhand smoke sort of way. Not evil, just selfish. I think it's also about mentality. People on the left tend to be more group focused and people on the right more individual rights focused. I think that's why you see a lot of frustration and push from the left to get vaccinated. They see it as everybody doing their part so everyone as a whole is better off. While people on the right view it as a personal choice and value their individual freedom to take or not take the vaccine.

Not speaking for myself in the above stuff, more of my direct observation. Thinking the right is selfishly problematic is not good, but not as bad as "the right is evil that needs to be defeated".

You are right that the fundamental difference is collectivism vs individualism.

But what you miss is the part where many on the left view that "selfishness" as evil.

The right says "you have to look out for your own interests, nobody else will"

The left says "putting your interests first is selfish and evil".

The difference is that people on the right know that even among the hard core leftists, it's people who look out for themselves who will be in charge, and they will not be putting the collective first.

 

[Celt]

After the fuckups they did this time, and the crackdowns on personal liberty, the taxing, the absolute abysmal failure on economic policy... I could go on. They're fucked in 2022 for sure, and probably 2024.

At this point the only way they're getting 2022 is if they stuff the ballot box, AGAIN.

Ftfy

 

[livingston]

I don't think many of them view the right as evil. The sense I get is that they view the rights actions as selfishly problematic. An example, someone I know was ranting about people not getting vaccinated putting them at risk of covid in a secondhand smoke sort of way. Not evil, just selfish. I think it's also about mentality. People on the left tend to be more group focused and people on the right more individual rights focused. I think that's why you see a lot of frustration and push from the left to get vaccinated. They see it as everybody doing their part so everyone as a whole is better off. While people on the right view it as a personal choice and value their individual freedom to take or not take the vaccine.

Not speaking for myself in the above stuff, more of my direct observation. Thinking the right is selfishly problematic is not good, but not as bad as "the right is evil that needs to be defeated".

The left is selective ... My body my choice in dealing with abortion has been the battle cry for decades. .. It does not apply to getting a shot...

 

[SonOfSun]

The left is selective ... My body my choice in dealing with abortion has been the battle cry for decades. .. It does not apply to getting a shot...

They're both selective.

Left: as you said, my body my choice, but not with a vaccine - no choice there.

Right: I believe I can have the medical procedures I want or not have ones I don't want, but you can't have the ones you want.

Both are hypocritical in their efforts to exercise control. Personally I'm against vaccine mandates and I'm also pro-choice. I believe you should have personal rights over any and all medical treatment, you choose to receive or not receive, regardless if I agree with it or not.

 

[libertysnake]

They're both selective.

Left: as you said, my body my choice, but not with a vaccine - no choice there.

Right: I believe I can have the medical procedures I want or not have ones I don't want, but you can't have the ones you want.

Both are hypocritical in their efforts to exercise control. Personally I'm against vaccine mandates and I'm also pro-choice. I believe you should have personal rights over any and all medical treatment, you choose to receive or not receive, regardless if I agree with it or not.

Honestly the gov should be forbidden from being able to have any say or insight into medical treatment of individuals. Period. There's tons of reasons why this is a problem. Just look at how the SAFE Act has tarnished the doctor/patient relationship with regard to privacy.

The only thing the gov should do is advise, via the FDA, and go after people that are medical scam artists.

 

[spat]

They're both selective.

Left: as you said, my body my choice, but not with a vaccine - no choice there.

Right: I believe I can have the medical procedures I want or not have ones I don't want, but you can't have the ones you want.

Both are hypocritical in their efforts to exercise control. Personally I'm against vaccine mandates and I'm also pro-choice. I believe you should have personal rights over any and all medical treatment, you choose to receive or not receive, regardless if I agree with it or not.

Well, to be fair, the right doesn't want to restrict medical procedures. They just don't want people killing babies.

It's the left that's hypocritical. They have no problem with the law mandating that the mother feed and care for the baby for years *after* it passed through the birth canal.

I think most on the right would be fine with a pregnant mother evicting the baby and handing it off to someone else to care for. They are just uncomfortable with the idea of straight up murdering it.

 

[spat]

Honestly the gov should be forbidden from being able to have any say or insight into medical treatment of individuals. Period. There's tons of reasons why this is a problem. Just look at how the SAFE Act has tarnished the doctor/patient relationship with regard to privacy.

The only thing the gov should do is advise, via the FDA, and go after people that are medical scam artists.

Agreed.

The sole input the government should be able to have on the abortion debate is to legally define the point where a pregnant woman switches from a woman with an unwanted growth, to a pair of conjoined twins.

 

[SonOfSun]

Agreed.

The sole input the government should be able to have on the abortion debate is to legally define the point where a pregnant woman switches from a woman with an unwanted growth, to a pair of conjoined twins.

That should be left to medical professionals and not the govt.

 

[SonOfSun]

Well, to be fair, the right doesn't want to restrict medical procedures. They just don't want people killing babies.

It's the left that's hypocritical. They have no problem with the law mandating that the mother feed and care for the baby for years *after* it passed through the birth canal.

I think most on the right would be fine with a pregnant mother evicting the baby and handing it off to someone else to care for. They are just uncomfortable with the idea of straight up murdering it.

That's subjective not objective.

 

[spat]

That should be left to medical professionals and not the govt.

It is a philosophical question, not a medical one. Nobody disputes the medical facts.

The legal definition would have to be done by government.

Right now, the legal definition is very inconsistent, and that is by definition arbitrary.

In some jurisdictions it is murder to kill the unborn in an assault if the mom wanted to keep it, but not if she wanted it gone ? Either it was a baby or it wasn't.


Also, a strictly medical definition would lead to either conception being the beginning (which a lot of people are going to have a very hard time with), or some time well after birth (which pretty much everyone is going to disagree with).

There is no reasonable medical criteria where passage through the birth canal magically confers personhood on what was previously basically a benign tumor.

 

[Darth]

An example, someone I know was ranting about people not getting vaccinated putting them at risk of covid in a secondhand smoke sort of way.

False equivalency.

They always do this to try and cleverly step over the fact that the burden of proof is on them to prove one is infected.

This would be more similar to denying someone entry to your business because they might be asymptomaticly smoking.

"Sorry sir, no smoking inside."

"...I'm not smoking? "

"But you might be."

 

[Acer-m14]

funny how bacteria on mars is life .. but a heart beat on earth is not ..

 

[SonOfSun]

The legal definition would have to be done by government.

Simple. If the census doesn't count them they aren't a person. Done.

 

[spat]

Simple. If the census doesn't count them they aren't a person. Done.

So the homeless are disposable too ?

 

[cgrutt]

Simple. If the census doesn't count them they aren't a person. Done.

Great then let's eradicate the illegal aliens problem solved.

 

[dsdmmat]

After the fuckups they did this time, and the crackdowns on personal liberty, the taxing, the absolute abysmal failure on economic policy... I could go on. They're fucked in 2022 for sure, and probably 2024.

At this point the only way they're getting 2022 is if they stuff the ballot box

you mean again?