NY Assembly ammo import ban bill introduced

The State computer surveillance unit ,will follow all CC transactions by the targetted MAGA gunowners..........they have all the 4473 data..old and new......and bad banks forward CC data from out of state transaction to them, for the target list persons.

PP? Semi License? AW License? They got your names...........PLUS the above.

I go to Pittsb. all the time..................they got my ez pass data to prove it. I have no receipts for any ammo I possess in my home...............both boxes of it.
Likely they will not raid homes unless they have fresh travel ,or FtF CC purchase data, from another state.........use cash FtF might be the best strategy.

Yes, buying ammo in Missouri or Ga, FTF for cash will work, maybe...............Unless the bill specifies any ammo a NYS citizen has in their car........., and they are caught with it entering NYS without a past sales receipt...........BOOM ..........like Drug shipments are intercepted......ammo confiscated........

NYSP will likely be lead agency on interdiction stops.........90% will get thru...............10% will not be so lucky.

It is a lot easier to keep honest people in line with unjust, unconstitutional laws than it is to keep thugs and outlaws in line with any kind of law. These communist scumbags now running this shithole know this and are counting on it, its all part other takeover.

Do not participate!
Robin

JunkBoxFull said:

AGREED 100% !!!!!!
They`ve got much bigger things to worry about, like illegals stealing, attacks, assaulting AMERICAN people, and beating up the cops.

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But they don’t care about that.

Saltwater60 said:

But they don’t care about that.

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You`re exactly right, they don`t. And the main reason they don`t care is because it makes their voter base think the morons they voted for are doing something by creating more (FEEL GOOD) laws. These phucking politicians NEED this crime to continue. It keeps them in power because of a mentally challenged voter base that keeps voting for them thinking things will change for the better. We have way to many phucking stupid people that are allowed to vote.

Zerex said:

The State computer surveillance unit ,will follow all CC transactions by the targetted MAGA gunowners..........they have all the 4473 data..old and new......and bad banks forward CC data from out of state transaction to them, for the target list persons.

PP? Semi License? AW License? They got your names...........PLUS the above.

I go to Pittsb. all the time..................they got my ez pass data to prove it. I have no receipts for any ammo I possess in my home...............both boxes of it.
Likely they will not raid homes unless they have fresh travel ,or FtF CC purchase data, from another state.........use cash FtF might be the best strategy.

Yes, buying ammo in Missouri or Ga, FTF for cash will work, maybe...............Unless the bill specifies any ammo a NYS citizen has in their car........., and they are caught with it entering NYS without a past sales receipt...........BOOM ..........like Drug shipments are intercepted......ammo confiscated........

NYSP will likely be lead agency on interdiction stops.........90% will get thru...............10% will not be so lucky.

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I do not know how they would enforce this. I'm not required to ask for ID for ammunition purchases unless I believe they are not of age to legally buy it. But this is how NY works, they use the force of the attorney general of NY to THREATEN gun dealers of lawsuits knowing most cannot afford the legal fees to fight the communist NY government or the bigger dealers who do not want to spend tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees in fighting NY state. NY state has gone after many dealers and distributors with the threat of lawsuits and many just found it easier not to sell anything to NY residents. This is why it is hard to get stuff from Palmettto State Armory and others. Do not blame them for being "anti 2nd Amendment", blame your attorney general.

PA Guns & Ammo said:

I do not know how they would enforce this. I'm not required to ask for ID for ammunition purchases unless I believe they are not of age to legally buy it. But this is how NY works, they use the force of the attorney general of NY to THREATEN gun dealers of lawsuits knowing most cannot afford the legal fees to fight the communist NY government or the bigger dealers who do not want to spend tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees in fighting NY state. NY state has gone after many dealers and distributors with the threat of lawsuits and many just found it easier not to sell anything to NY residents. This is why it is hard to get stuff from Palmettto State Armory and others. Do not blame them for being "anti 2nd Amendment", blame your attorney general.

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I have to come pay you a visit one day.

Saltwater60 said:

I have to come pay you a visit one day.

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Swing by and pick me up when you're on the way

What a clown show in Albany. Hey Hochul, here's an idea that will save your budget and keep your middle class tax base from leaving. While you prevent NY'ers from purchasing ammo in other states, why not just prevent NY'ers from buying, renting, vacationing or otherwise finding homes or shelter in which to live in, in other states. It's not a stretch with what is in Assembly Bill - A08443.

Let me guess....you want to be selective with who can exercise a constitutional right. NY'ers inalienable rights are granted by you.


This thing is going no where. I read worse bills from Albany back in the 90's.

What is really is annoying is that there are hundreds of pressing issues that would make life in NY better that she isn't addressing. But then again, she isn't controlling anything. Her strings firmly attached.

RedBreast21 said:

What a clown show in Albany. Hey Hochul, here's an idea that will save your budget and keep your middle class tax base from leaving. While you prevent Ny'ers from purchasing ammo in other states, why not just prevent NY'ers from buying, renting, vacationing or otherwise finding home or shelter in which to live in, in other states. It's not a stretch with what is in Assembly Bill - A08443.

Let me guess....you want to be selective with who can exercise a constitutional right. Ny'ers inalienable rights are granted by you.


This thing is going no where. I read worse bills from Albany back in the 90's.

What is really is annoying is that there are hundreds of pressing issues that would make life in NY better that she isn't addressing. But then again, she isn't controlling anything. Her strings firmly attached.

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"This thing is going no where."

I distinctly remember people saying the same exact thing with the NY Safe-Act too, and look what happened. Still yet to be defeated.

An oldie but goodie

PA Guns & Ammo said:

I do not know how they would enforce this. I'm not required to ask for ID for ammunition purchases unless I believe they are not of age to legally buy it. But this is how NY works, they use the force of the attorney general of NY to THREATEN gun dealers of lawsuits knowing most cannot afford the legal fees to fight the communist NY government or the bigger dealers who do not want to spend tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees in fighting NY state. NY state has gone after many dealers and distributors with the threat of lawsuits and many just found it easier not to sell anything to NY residents. This is why it is hard to get stuff from Palmettto State Armory and others. Do not blame them for being "anti 2nd Amendment", blame your attorney general.

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This is what I said earlier in this thread. They don't have to enforce shit. It's the threat of going broke in court while NYers pay for your demise.
Fuck this state. I want to see it all burn!

Do it. You won't.

JunkBoxFull said:

"This thing is going no where."

I distinctly remember people saying the same exact thing with the NY Safe-Act too, and look what happened. Still yet to be defeated.

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Well I didn't say that when it was announced. We already had a national Assault Weapons Ban that lasted its full term and sunset. Had no sunset clause existed in the law, we would have it today nation wide. I actually don't know anyone that took that view. It was a done deal.

dsdmmat said:

Did NYS introduce a ban on private ammo sales? Is there a law that prohibits straw purchases of ammo? Is there even a NY definition of an ammo straw purchase?

I really doubt this bill is going anywhere but if it does, it is not enforceable and therefore it is feel good legislation.

I would love to see the NYSP conducting border checkpoints. It would reduce the number of purple ties available for traffic enforcement. It would also show NY is the Modern version of East Germany and East Berlin.

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"Effective September 1, 2022: Any seller of ammunition or dealer in firearms shall keep either an electronic record, or dataset, or an organized collection of structured information, or data, typically stored electronically in a computer system approved as to form by the superintendent of state police. In the record shall be entered at the time of every transaction involving ammunition the date, name, age, occupation and residence of any person from whom ammunition is received or to whom ammunition is delivered, and the amount, caliber, manufacturer's name and serial number, or if none, any other distinguishing number or identification mark on such ammunition."

"If you are not currently a New York State firearms dealer, you must complete the Seller of Ammunition Registration form below"

Ammunition Registration


i see noting in there on giving it away with a 40 dollar cup of lemon aid ..

The intent is to keep ammo sales low to "normal" people................ normal people do not blast away 500 rds a weekend.

Training/Shooter competency requires training..................YOU ARE NOW STOPPED FROM TRAINING.........IT IS ILLEGAL ANYWAY..........

The Chinese are behind all of this..........Bejing's Albany Station, cannot succeed unless you only have 20 rounds that that is next............

Who is after Trump? Chinese paid useful tools.

China and Hochul believe that communism is the only fit form of government and you can die opposing them if you want.

Oh yeah...the customer lists......... is a long gone fact of life. Purchased anything from primary arms?


2019 and 2023

Target spots coming to Scranton is cool, but keep in mind there's 20+ gun shops in the Scranton -wilkes Barre area already. Including one with full auto rental.

Zerex said:

The intent is to keep ammo sales low to "normal" people................ normal people do not blast away 500 rds a weekend.

Training/Shooter competency requires training..................YOU ARE NOW STOPPED FROM TRAINING.........IT IS ILLEGAL ANYWAY..........

The Chinese are behind all of this..........Bejing's Albany Station, cannot succeed unless you only have 20 rounds that that is next............

Who is after Trump? Chinese paid useful tools.

China and Hochul believe that communism is the only fit form of government and you can die opposing them if you want.

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You seem to post ALOT of propaganda, and some of it seems to be made up by you. Do tell us how "YOU" would fix all of it.
We know what the problems already are, we already know where its all coming from, but what are "YOUR" solutions.

I think in some twisted way he still believes in the government. Er, something.
Robin

If anyone should actually be stopped by NYSP LEO (most sheriffs won’t even bother with this latest round stupidity of Steck) for an out of state purchase, just start speaking a little Spanish and immediately declare asylum. Not only will you not be arrested, you’ll be given a pre-filled debit card for your troubles.

Ridiculous worry and concern about an unenforceable law even if enacted!

One, the State has ZERO jurisdiction beyond its borders...

Two, the State cannot enact ANY Legislation that would restrict interstate commerce...

I find it ridiculous how these Big Bad Wolf threads take on momentum, like the Safe Act... Which went almost completely non-complied with... Something they don't publicize too much. As would this type of law... But too much speculation and crying over something that won't effect you in any way.

But they'll (Legislators) enact it, knowing there are weak minds, who will cower and worry about walking the line, their line! Making 2A enthusiasts pat their tummy and head at the same time when told to do so.

So for those who worry about this garbage, there's little hope, don't know what to say. But the State doesn't run my life, and never has, never will. I do what I do... When, how, and why I want to do it. Always have, and always will...

I don't live by permission!

It is the GOVERNMENT that lives by the permission we give it! When people start thinking this way, the correct way, things "might" change! Anyways...

/end rant

Vapor said:

Target spots coming to Scranton is cool, but keep in mind there's 20+ gun shops in the Scranton -wilkes Barre area already. Including one with full auto rental.

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I’ll be heading right through that town in my way to parts further south in a couple months. Any shops in Scranton I should stop by to, ya know, shout a patriotic howdy to?

I don't want to give this thread anymore attention but keep in mind that many online ammo sellers complied with NY's online ammo purchasing rule by restricting shipping that had nothing to do with them. I'm sure this didn't go unnoticed by the lobby groups who now believe they can get the rest in line and the ammo retail sellers on board. And they would. lets be honest about that. lol

If they had any balls as an industry they would stop selling ammo to LEO agencies not only only in NY but every agency nationally if even one state passed such a ridiculous and unconstitutional law. But we are easy targets to be picked off as we have no back bone, no organization and no balls. lol

We are experts in whining thou

They'd lose their motherfucking minds in States like AL, GA, the Carolina's etc.. where you can buy LOTS of Ammo cheap, and cool guns from Individuals and Flea Markets, and NOT have to report to the communist sympathizing cock-suckers empowered by the New York Legislature and its gestapo AG who's more worried about fucking over a former President than the illegal immigrants committing violent crimes.

RedBreast21 said:

I don't want to give this thread anymore attention but keep in mind that many online ammo sellers complied with NY's online ammo purchasing rule by restricting shipping that had nothing to do with them. I'm sure this didn't go unnoticed by the lobby groups who now believe they can get the rest in line and the ammo retail sellers on board. And they would. lets be honest about that. lol

If they had any balls as an industry they would stop selling ammo to LEO agencies not only only in NY but every agency nationally if even one state passed such a ridiculous and unconstitutional law. But we are easy targets to be picked off as we have no back bone, no organization and no balls. lol

We are experts in whining thou

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Correct but there is a law that says they need to report sales tax to NYS and pay it. I do think some will oblige by this but they have no legal requirement to ask where we are from or keep a record and with shipping to NYS that’s rather hard to ignore.

Beerman said:

I’ll be heading right through that town in my way to parts further south in a couple months. Any shops in Scranton I should stop by to, ya know, shout a patriotic howdy to?

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I've only been to Loyal 9 and Fangani. Fangani has a huge selection of guns and ammo, but ammo prices were a little high. Loyal 9 is really nice. He has fantastic prices on magazines. Like the same as the internet.


Roll call is the gun shop and full auto range.


Depending on the direction you're coming from, there's pretty much at least one gun shop in every town in northeastern PA