New bill pushes for shorter 32-hour workweek across the country with no loss in pay for workers

Why not just make it a 24 hour week? Might as well.

Carlos Hathcock said:

Why not just make it a 24 hour week? Might as well.

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Why even have that? Full pay and one can just home. Its easy, just print more money. I am sure private business is perfectly ok with shouldering a 25% raise for everyone as well as 25% less productivity.
Do these fucktards comprehend simple concepts?

You think inflation is bad now..see what happens with this bonehead idea

My prices will go up more than 25% to cover outstanding jobs that I'll loose money on and the need to hire more production personnel and more non-production overhead personnel to maintain profitability.

While I think this is a stupid bill, I think employers have been taking advantage of employees for far too long. When salaried employment first started there no was need for PTO. You worked to do your job and if you had down time or wanted a vacation you took it.

Then it went to you can to tell us why you won't be here and we will decide if you can have the time off.
Then it went to PTO.
Then PTO and mandatory 40 hour work weeks.
Then PTO and minimum 40 hour work weeks but don't complain unless you are over 50 hours a week all the time.

This whole thing is a fuck joke to work people to death for the least amount of pay possible. I say fuck all this and back to work an hour get paid for an hour.

Sanders stated in a press release, “Today, American workers are over 400% more productive than they were in the 1940s. And yet, millions of Americans are working longer hours for lower wages than they were decades ago. That has got to change.”

Unless you're salaried your wages to hours is irrelevant. Unless your stupid enough to agree to work 50 plus hours a week for a low salary.

I've seen our current work force. Nobody is 400% more productive and some are way less productive. Even if everyone was more productive you can't get 40 hours of work out of someone that's only there 32 hours. Employers are still bitching about their employees working from home because they're less productive.

This isn't going anywhere but imagine how high our taxes will go to cover the cost of hiring more state/county/federal workers to get shit done because people only work 32 hours a week. I read their proposal yesterday and it said OT over 32 hours per week. Ot over 8 hours and double time over 12 hours in one day.

I'm guessing unions could still negotiate hours? I'd actually have to work more days per year under this stupidity. We work 12 hour shifts and are scheduled for 7 days in a 2 week period which means we work half the year. These idiots don't even think about non office jobs that simply can't run 9-5.

I support this. Is it feasible or will it happen, nope. I do not feel like two days off a week is enough.

I worked 40 plus hours a week.had 6 days off a month instead of the traditional 8 and once a month..every month worked 14 days straight without a day off. Did that for 20 years , along with many others. Complaining never came up.How did We cope or survive…

I'm salaried. My salary was based on 40 hours. That's what they get. My salary hasn't changed significantly in the past 4 years. I've adjusted the amount of work I do to compensate.

Want me to do more? Expect me to do 50 hours+ in a week? Ask me and I'll let you know what it's going to cost you.

Saltwater60 said:

I support this. Is it feasible or will it happen, nope. I do not feel like two days off a week is enough.

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A friend of mine didn't think 2 days off a week was enough either. So he talked to his long-time employer about changing his work schedule and didn't get what he wanted.

So he left that place and went to work for another auto dealership just down the road from the original place. That dealership agreed to put him on three 12 to14 hour work days with four days off. He really likes having 4 days off in a row.

It will drive up the cost of EVERYTHING! Its not worth what it would do to the economy. Our dollars would be worth less than they are now.

It effects too many things negatively that I cant type it all out on my phone.

Bigfoot said:

A friend of mine didn't think 2 days off a week was enough either. So he talked to his long-time employer about changing his work schedule and didn't get what he wanted.

So he left that place and went to work for another auto dealership just down the road from the original place. That dealership agreed to put him on three 12 to14 hour work days with four days off. He really likes having 4 days off in a row.

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I don’t even need three days off in a row and I’d be thrilled with another day even during the week. I’m in a bit of a funk lately but been exhausted with too much to do lately. I put a lot of pressure on myself to get things done. I’m going back to college and this six weeks I’ll have completed 2.5 masters level courses and got 100% on all courses so far. I have one last assignment to finish by March 26th or 29th. Still working full time and there’s a weekend or two in there I got up early both days so I’m getting exhausted.
I’m done landscaping this year except two customers that need me a few times per year. I can’t do it anymore.

Saltwater60 said:

I don’t even need three days off in a row and I’d be thrilled with another day even during the week. I’m in a bit of a funk lately but been exhausted with too much to do lately. I put a lot of pressure on myself to get things done. I’m going back to college and this six weeks I’ll have completed 2.5 masters level courses and got 100% on all courses so far. I have one last assignment to finish by March 26th or 29th. Still working full time and there’s a weekend or two in there I got up early both days so I’m getting exhausted.
I’m done landscaping this year except two customers that need me a few times per year. I can’t do it anymore.

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I remember a year or so ago you said you were going to slow down. lol

Mr. terzmo said:

I worked 40 plus hours a week.had 6 days off a month instead of the traditional 8 and once a month..every month worked 14 days straight without a day off. Did that for 20 years , along with many others. Complaining never came up.How did We cope or survive…

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Because the money you made was relevant to the cost of living. I just paid $24 for 2 milkshakes....

i was hired for full time .. 40 hours a week .. like many others ...

places already cut hours down to 32 or 35 have been for years .. no raises too ..

but management get there full pay and raises ..


i will take being paid for 40 hours and only working 32

Thanks Burnie ..

I lost money from last year to this year. My "raise" wasn't near enough to cover inflation.

SomeSoldier said:

I lost money from last year to this year. My "raise" wasn't near enough to cover inflation.

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Same

If you could actually GET people to work, this would not be such a bad idea. I can't tell you how many time I've walked past desks and see people fucking off on social media, shopping, or watching videos. When I'm at work - I work. I have a lot to do - and can barely keep up as it is, and screwing off just means more to do tomorrow. Don't give a shit if it sounds arrogant - I could get as much done in 32 hours as many people in my company do in 48. But that's the problem - how do you separate the workers from the lazy POS freeloaders?

And by the way - 40 hours is thanks to Henry Ford who needed to work people half to death for shit wages so his production line would never stop, and it's just gotten worse since then. Executive attitudes are such that they are not going to authorize hiring more people when the drones they have are willing to "pull up their bootstraps and get it done." The older I get, the more tired I am of employers assuming that you'll sacrifice your life for their profits and their stockholders portfolios. News flash - you get paid what you get paid because it's already built into the operational plan. My skillset and output merits a certain wage - but at the same time, my personal time and effort also has intrinsic value and it's time people started questioning what they are worth to themselves, their families, and their friends. People who don't understand that kind of value make perfect wage slaves.

Bigfoot said:

I remember a year or so ago you said you were going to slow down. lol

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I’m working on it. I dropped my biggest landscaping customer and I’m only keeping two customers. They only call me like 3-4 times a year and they are both disabled. The one guy is rather poor and I allow him to pay me what he can. It’s always fair to me but that keeps him from calling me more than I want to work for him at this point. It works well. I’ll be done with my masters by December hopefully but I can’t keep this pace up over the summer or I’ll be miserable since I love to be outside. After that I can teach part-time but I can take or decline classes and do them when it works for me. Obviously there’s deadlines but it would be all online and I grade when I have time throughout the week.

SomeSoldier said:

I lost money from last year to this year. My "raise" wasn't near enough to cover inflation.

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Last two years I got a 5% raise total. Not 5% each year so I’m right there with you. They did give us a little bonus to try to lie to us and say it made up for the difference but nope and inflation hasn’t dropped so we’re losing money except maybe that one year.

The troops in the US military will love this.

Creedmoor​

"Sanders stated in a press release, “Today, American workers are over 400% more productive than they were in the 1940s."

Bullfuckingshit.

Most NYS workers only show up an average of 4 days a week..........365 days a year, 104 week end days, 15 paid holidays, 4 weeks vacation, comp time sick time............parental leave time, family leave time.......

This bill will force them back to work for 4 days a week...up from 2-3.5 to an actual 4 days a week. SLAVERY

Carlos Hathcock said:

Creedmoor​

"Sanders stated in a press release, “Today, American workers are over 400% more productive than they were in the 1940s."

Bullfuckingshit.

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When you add in the technology that’s assisting us maybe but that’s not the worker that’s the business.

Apeman said:

Sanders stated in a press release, “Today, American workers are over 400% more productive than they were in the 1940s. And yet, millions of Americans are working longer hours for lower wages than they were decades ago. That has got to change.”

Unless you're salaried your wages to hours is irrelevant. Unless your stupid enough to agree to work 50 plus hours a week for a low salary.

I've seen our current work force. Nobody is 400% more productive and some are way less productive. Even if everyone was more productive you can't get 40 hours of work out of someone that's only there 32 hours. Employers are still bitching about their employees working from home because they're less productive.

This isn't going anywhere but imagine how high our taxes will go to cover the cost of hiring more state/county/federal workers to get shit done because people only work 32 hours a week. I read their proposal yesterday and it said OT over 32 hours per week. Ot over 8 hours and double time over 12 hours in one day.

I'm guessing unions could still negotiate hours? I'd actually have to work more days per year under this stupidity. We work 12 hour shifts and are scheduled for 7 days in a 2 week period which means we work half the year. These idiots don't even think about non office jobs that simply can't run 9-5.

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I work with instruments and analyzers that produce better, faster results at a rate that was unheard of in the 1980s, forget decades before that. Automation, computerization, better manufacturing processes, etc, have indeed made it such that fewer people can exceed the work rate that it used to take many more people to do the same. Sure, there are lazy workers everywhere, but the tools at hand in today’s world make them more productive than their predecessors.

Carlos Hathcock said:

Creedmoor​

"Sanders stated in a press release, “Today, American workers are over 400% more productive than they were in the 1940s."

Bullfuckingshit.

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Don’t think of it as a “hard working, ass-busting” kind of productive worker. Think of it as a “don’t have to milk an entire herd of cows by hand @ 5am every day, then drive it to the customers and bring the empty jugs back and wash them for tomorrow” kind of productive. Different world, for sure. Think of the effect of the work done, not the effort to do it.

I’m not saying I agree with Bernie or not, but who wouldn’t want 5 days’ pay for 4 days’ work?

togmaster said:

When will the free shit revolution end?

New bill pushes for shorter 32-hour workweek across the country with no loss in pay for workers

The bill is being introduced by three democratic lawmakers, including Sen. Bernie Sanders.

westchester.news12.com

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When the Democrats have achieved total control and domination, then THEY will have it all, and we won't have shit....THAT'S when it will end.
Know who they are and what they have done that when the Trials begin accountability shall be had.

Zerex said:

Most NYS workers only show up an average of 4 days a week..........365 days a year, 104 week end days, 15 paid holidays, 4 weeks vacation, comp time sick time............parental leave time, family leave time.......

This bill will force them back to work for 4 days a week...up from 2-3.5 to an actual 4 days a week. SLAVERY

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Unless you are a teacher. I know one personally that most days only works from 9am-2pm and then goes home. Of course that is only 3 days a week, rest of the week she works from home... Then add all those other "perks".

I wonder how European countries are able to do a good job with a four day work week......?