NYS now admits wind and solar can’t handle the electrical needs and is looking a nuclear power

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I don’t get it. We just shut them down and now they say it’s because they have big cooling tunnels and rectors visible but now it’s ok because those things are smaller. What does size have to do with it when we had them up and running. Their plan is failing and they can’t admit it. All the solar panels I e seen are still covered in snow.
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New York looks again at nuclear power production

Advanced nuclear is "on the table" to complement hydro, wind, and solar power, the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority CEO says.
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The link statement tells of the state having to deal with the no nukes crowd, must be standing in front of a mirror.
 
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kev74 said:
Good job, Monkeyface!
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You're a little behind the times. Monkeyface isn't here anymore.
Should have said "Good job, der eyebrows fuhrer" or, more appropriately "Sieg Heil, der eyebrows fuhrer!"

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Their plan is failing and they can’t admit it.
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Yeah, I thought the whole "cancel nuke plants and buy power from Canada" thing was stupid to start with.
What happened to the power we buy from Canada? Did it go away or is suspension-bridge-face worried Canada will cut her off when Trump takes over and starts slapping tariffs on them for rampant and uncontrolled illegal immigration support.

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All the solar panels I e seen are still covered in snow.
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Practically every piece of farmland out here appears to be growing silicon and glass crops. Looks like shit and probably about as useful.
Why turn NY into some dystopian nightmare if there's no benefit!
 
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Amongst the countless idiotic things mindless dems do that make normal thinking people cringe is their inability to foresee the problems their policies and actions do that are detrimental and costly to their citizenry. To paraphrase Dean Wormer; "Short sighted, stupid and socialist is no way to go through life"! Especially when your gross incompetence negatively impacts others. Sadly, Horchul is tops in the class of stupid dems. :fukh:
 
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Nuke power tech has come a long way. There are reactor designs out there that can't melt down - thorium reactors are the go-to example, IIRC.

Nuclear power really is the only viable option for us, though it seems very difficult to achieve. We would need about 10,000 reactors, which take an enormous amount of money and time to build. If we assume each reactor lasts a century, we'd need to build 100 new reactors every year, forever... by the time we reached the replacement level for fossil fuels, we'd need to start replacing the 100 reactors we'd built a century before. (note: this is talking from a global perspective, not just US).
 
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Jim Kuntsler was the first person I remember say that the only solution for future generation of electricity was nuclear. He made it clear that solar, wind, geothermal, tidal, what have you just wouldn't work.

That was in his book "The Long Emergency" first published in 2005.

My question was always "Where the fuck do they think all that copper and all the money is going to come from?".

But DemonRats don't think like that...it's too logical.
 
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I'm sure some company will step up and say they can deliver all the power we need and NY government will give them $1 billion in tax breaks to build. Then the construction will go over budget by at least $100 million and they won't provide the jobs they promised. Once again NY taxpayers get screwed.
 
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I think if you have kids in high school, look at the trades. If jobs (they have to) come back who will be ready to work to build them? The criminals that flood our states or our children. For the U.S.A. to survive we must return work home.
Look at ny, computer chip co. , old nuke start up, new nuke, electric everything, all the small cos. Needed to service the new work, sales. If we get back to being a real country the work will come.
 
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Grimscale said:
You're a little behind the times. Monkeyface isn't here anymore.
Should have said "Good job, der eyebrows fuhrer" or, more appropriately "Sieg Heil, der eyebrows fuhrer!"


Yeah, I thought the whole "cancel nuke plants and buy power from Canada" thing was stupid to start with.
What happened to the power we buy from Canada? Did it go away or is suspension-bridge-face worried Canada will cut her off when Trump takes over and starts slapping tariffs on them for rampant and uncontrolled illegal immigration support.


Practically every piece of farmland out here appears to be growing silicon and glass crops. Looks like shit and probably about as useful.
Why turn NY into some dystopian nightmare if there's no benefit!
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Solar makes as much sense in NY as hydro does in southern AZ.
 
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ManualF150 said:
Trump is scaring the shit out of these greenies...

calmatters.org

California abandons diesel truck ban and 3 other clean-air rules before Trump is sworn in

Because Trump would be unlikely to approve them, California has no choice but to abandon its groundbreaking rules for zero-emission trucks and cleaner locomotives.
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I'm loving it....

I think a new nuclear reactor should be built and let it power homes and businesses and NOT cars/trucks!
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Awesome. They know this crap can’t work and they do it anyway. One has to ask why they do it? They do it to sow divide and cause strife and this needs to stop. Trunk isnt one to stop the strife or divide but I don’t care and he will do good things. At some point we need to do what’s right and take down the temperature but we will see if that ever happens.
This quote from the article is hilarious. They did lots of analysis apparently. I’m sure none of that analysis showed any bias at all.
The truck fleet rule was approved in 2022 after years of analysis, public hearings and discussions with industries and experts. It would have ended diesel’s stronghold on goods movement in the state, with potentially profound effects on the state’s environment and economy.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
I don’t get it. We just shut them down and now they say it’s because they have big cooling tunnels and rectors visible but now it’s ok because those things are smaller. What does size have to do with it when we had them up and running. Their plan is failing and they can’t admit it. All the solar panels I e seen are still covered in snow.
www.wgrz.com

New York looks again at nuclear power production

Advanced nuclear is "on the table" to complement hydro, wind, and solar power, the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority CEO says.
www.wgrz.com www.wgrz.com
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I could have told you it wouldn't work, at least not their implementation. I'm not for or against wind/solar. They DO have valid applications. The problem is trying to force it for the sake of forcing it. Where it makes sense people will want it/pay for it. Where it doesn't they won't. Free market is better than any government plan.
 
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SonOfSun said:
I could have told you it wouldn't work, at least not their implementation. I'm not for or against wind/solar. They DO have valid applications. The problem is trying to force it for the sake of forcing it. Where it makes sense people will want it/pay for it. Where it doesn't they won't. Free market is better than any government plan.
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I am very much pro solar.

I have half my roof covered in it.

In Arizona half the roofs and half the parking lots are covered in it. That makes great sense.

Just look at Tucson on Google satellite view . That's the way to do it.

In NY solar it's insane except for specific niche applications. Every panel installed in NY is a waste of one that could have been installed out here and make 4x as much power.

And putting it over farmland when you have tons of parking lots available is also insane.
 
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spat said:
I am very much pro solar.

I have half my roof covered in it.

In Arizona half the roofs and half the parking lots are covered in it. That makes great sense.

Just look at Tucson on Google satellite view . That's the way to do it.

In NY solar it's insane except for specific niche applications. Every panel installed in NY is a waste of one that could have been installed out here and make 4x as much power.

And putting it over farmland when you have tons of parking lots available is also insane.
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Correct. All solar panels have been covered in snow here for a month or so and no signs of them producing any electric anytime soon.
 
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Saltwater60 said:
Correct. All solar panels have been covered in snow here for a month or so and no signs of them producing any electric anytime soon.
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I made 70kWh of power yesterday with my solar.

That's about 80% of what I can make in August. That's mostly due to the shorter days, since the higher intensity of the sun in the summer is offset by the lower efficiency of the panels from the heat.

I actually have mine tilted to optimize for summer not all year.

But my power used is way down in winter since AC uses a lot more than heat here (which I seldom even use ). I can actually produce a surplus in the winter. Not quite in the summer.

In NY all of that is completely opposite, on top of the general lack of sun.
 
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Syracuse only gets ~2 solar days worth of sun, all the solar farms are covered in snow right now.
 
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