ATF Trying to flip the script on “pin & weld”?

Does it even matter anymore when the ATF gets away with this ..

ATF take Prop Gun and make it a REAL gun and Make Arrest

I thought getting ATF straightened out was a priority, still making issues where none should exist in the first place!!!! C'mon Trump, kick some ass.
Robin

This is entirely ridiculous. I’d have liked to have been there to see how this unfolded. I wonder how many guns were inspected to find the one that they could break free or was this every gun in their possession? How much force was used to break this muzzle device free? Was the barrel damaged? Was it one bad tack weld out of hundreds or thousands of guns? Context here matters greatly. Given this women’s history she’s clearly a bad actor and pushing her agenda.

I agree with what others will say and this shouldn’t even be a factor as all these guns and features should be legal. I was working within the confines of the law above as one has to do in this situation.

Until the SBR/Pistol matter is straightened out.....................

Robin said:

I thought getting ATF straightened out was a priority, still making issues where none should exist in the first place!!!! C'mon Trump, kick some ass.
Robin

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Trump picked Plan Blondie for AG, and you`re waiting for him to do something about stopping the A.F.T ?

FRANKIE said:

ATF Agent Tries to Rewrite the Rules on ‘Pin & Weld'

And if this view spreads within the agency, millions of law-abiding gun owners could find themselves in legal jeopardy.

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That`s just communists just communist`ing....
"we don`t like the rules, so we`re changing the rules".

FRANKIE said:

ATF Agent Tries to Rewrite the Rules on ‘Pin & Weld'

And if this view spreads within the agency, millions of law-abiding gun owners could find themselves in legal jeopardy.

gunsamerica.com

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Perhaps the Trump Administration will catch wind and deflate her sails...NY had/has a NYSP Tech. that tried that same shit; trying to be overly analytical claiming threads covered were still threads because the existed UNDER the permanently attached device.

Just another corrupt government agency with plenty of low hanging fruit! C'mon Bondi, start picking!!!!!! SHEEEEEESH!!!!!!!!
Robin

And who exactly is going to attempt to grab your firearm for a spot check? Suspicion is not validation for a search! Get a warrant and go fuck yourself while doing so!

Ridiculous...

Like I have said before, people sometimes worry about the big bad wolf that never comes! Nothing but bullshit paper tiger garbage!

Chevron was taken down... Let Congress pass such a law! The ATF has been defanged!

Saltwater60 said:

This is entirely ridiculous. I’d have liked to have been there to see how this unfolded. I wonder how many guns were inspected to find the one that they could break free or was this every gun in their possession? How much force was used to break this muzzle device free? Was the barrel damaged?

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They put the barrel extension in a vice and used the grip of the pistol as a lever to break the pin. The barrel threads were destroyed in the process. It was one sample supplied by a manufacturer not a random selection.

100 days.................

The 2024 election was not about firearms..................it was about egg prices, gasoline prices, the Wars, Kamala, as a AI robot and the entire economy.................

If K had been elected........there would be firarms confiscation............be patient.

Cooolone said:

And who exactly is going to attempt to grab your firearm for a spot check? Suspicion is not validation for a search! Get a warrant and go fuck yourself while doing so!

Ridiculous...

Like I have said before, people sometimes worry about the big bad wolf that never comes! Nothing but bullshit paper tiger garbage!

Chevron was taken down... Let Congress pass such a law! The ATF has been defanged!

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You need to watch more videos on youtube.
I understand the whole don't go stupid places and do stupid shit, but.......
There are a lot of videos of police disarming, unloading and running the serial of law abiding citizens doing lawful things.
Most are at protests or 2nd amendment audit bullshit, but it's happening a lot.
There are groups of people in Florida who go fishing while open carrying, a 100% legal activity. Every time the cops show up they disarm, inspect and run the numbers.....for "officer safety". It makes guns extra safe to run the serial numbers.
You're kidding yourself if you think you protesting a search is going to stop the search. And in NYS, most courts will agree with "officer safety". That's the new "I smell weed in the car" cops pull to do an otherwise illegal search.
For every law, cops work hard to find work around.
If you jaywalk you can be disarmed, your gun inspected and number run, for "officer safety".
There are literally hundreds of videos online showing this.

The Camden man, with a mag locked AR-10 may have a different life experience.

there is no rule that says you only have 15 seconds to change mags.....................NO TIME LIMIT...10 HOURS IS THE NORM NOW...TO GETCHA.

Bondi isn't going to do shit! She is not a friend of the 2A struggle. I also hate to say it, but Trumps priority isn't the 2A rights. He has bigger fish to fry right now. I wish it wasn't the case, but he used us just like every other politician; right or left. No career politician wants the people to have any power.

When the citizens are armed and able to fight back, we have power. A corrupt, bloated, big government doesn't want this.

Criticalt said:

You need to watch more videos on youtube.
I understand the whole don't go stupid places and do stupid shit, but.......
There are a lot of videos of police disarming, unloading and running the serial of law abiding citizens doing lawful things.

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Videos don't dictate what Law is... I don't watch much YouTube, let alone some of the antagonist I've seen.

Criticalt said:

Most are at protests or 2nd amendment audit bullshit, but it's happening a lot.
There are groups of people in Florida who go fishing while open carrying, a 100% legal activity. Every time the cops show up they disarm, inspect and run the numbers.....for "officer safety". It makes guns extra safe to run the serial numbers.

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Yeah, I've seen one or two but see above. An antagonist doest apply to what I posted. These agitators are known...

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You're kidding yourself if you think you protesting a search is going to stop the search. And in NYS, most courts will agree with "officer safety". That's the new "I smell weed in the car" cops pull to do an otherwise illegal search.

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Don't put words to my post that I didn't say. I never said I'd stop the search! Actually, I'd welcome it, and then challenge it and fight my day in court and when my Rights are deemed to have been violated as I mention, then settle up! "I smell Weed works when there's weed. You don't find weed, it don't work! Sorry... And I would immediately go to a lab and get a drug test done to show ZERO drugs in my system, thank you very much!

Criticalt said:

For every law, cops work hard to find work around.
If you jaywalk you can be disarmed, your gun inspected and number run, for "officer safety".
There are literally hundreds of videos online showing this.

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Firearm can be secured for safety... Agreed! Running numbers, etc., is an arbitrary and capricious extension, err, embellishment... So sorry, no.

Again, I don't subscribe to videos online that catch an overzealous officer here and there out of the tens of thousands on the job who do the right thing. I could tell you how many times I've been stopped and never ever checked, pat down, etc. Even while carrying, etc. It's all about how you handle the situation.

But to reaffirm my statements, maybe I was a little strong with my GFY! And any search based upon suspicion does not work! It doesn't stand scrutiny, sorry. Probable Cause is entirely different and the two are mutually exclusive! I leave a known drug den and have tints and get stopped... Well, fair game!l then! I'm just one of a hundred cars on a roadway spot checked and asked to step out, get a pat down... Sorry, but no, that doesn't work for further scrutiny by an officer. Having a Firearm is not Criminal by Firearm! It just doesn't work that way, let alone when I inform and produce my credentials when or if asked.

Those videos do more harm than good in my opinion! And I stand firm... It's all mumbo jumbo about the Big Bad Wolf that never comes! I've carried forever and never once had an issue. I would expect not to have any going forward either!

Have a great day

RooftopKorean said:

Bondi isn't going to do shit! She is not a friend of the 2A struggle. I also hate to say it, but Trumps priority isn't the 2A rights. He has bigger fish to fry right now. I wish it wasn't the case, but he used us just like every other politician; right or left. No career politician wants the people to have any power.

When the citizens are armed and able to fight back, we have power. A corrupt, bloated, big government doesn't want this.

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