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HMU once you make your escape from NY.Go on..... tell me more
HMU once you make your escape from NY.Go on..... tell me more
I hear ya. I've got people in my circle, same thing. They don't want to listen. Tired of talking.My wife wants to ignore everything. I tell her 2019 was along time ago. She knows everything is collapsing but doesn't want to address the negative because it is too much to understand and handle.
I forgot, what part of KY are you in?HMU once you make your escape from NY.
NYC? Just 72 hours? Not really . It’s a mixed bag. Some neighborhoods yes, others no. Just a power outage? They had that during Superstorm Sandy. Manhattan below certain streets didn’t have power for days . Some places it was for weeks. Long Island was out for weeks .NYC? 72 hours tops before it becomes uninhabitable beyond repair.
Suburbs? 1 week
Elsewhere? What is your stockpile? 2 weeks? 2 Months? Root cellar? Bunker? Abandoned fort?
The earth’s orbit had missed some recentlyYup. And it seems we are overdue for a Carrington size event. Not if, but when.
This is pretty well done episode covering the impact of a massive solar flare. Regardless of the cause for a grid collapse, this is what to expect.
Just came across this vid from Canadian Prepper. 21 hours ago, maybe old news by now. Maybe nothing but thought I'd share. I usually take the prepper channels that sell shit with a grain of salt.
South of Ohio, north of Tennessee.I forgot, what part of KY are you in?
Most cars are actually pretty EMP resistant. Their normal operation has a shit ton of electrical noise, so the electronics are built to be very resistant. They do not have long runs of wiring, and most of it is inside the metal shell.NYC? Just 72 hours? Not really . It’s a mixed bag. Some neighborhoods yes, others no. Just a power outage? They had that during Superstorm Sandy. Manhattan below certain streets didn’t have power for days . Some places it was for weeks. Long Island was out for weeks .
A full blast EMP like in the books ? Where cars are down too? That’s a different story .
with no cell phone service no need for a chargerit's the kids that will revolt first. If they can't charge those cell phone, billions of parents will be demanding answers as to when the power will be back![]()
Since the thread was resurrected, I think the recent grid collapse in Spain is probably the most interesting related event.
I think it demonstrates that it's not how long the power has been out for that matters.
It's how long people think it will be before it comes up.
Power's down for a week, but everyone expects it to be back "soon", most areas will muddle through.
But even if it's just down 24 hours, but people *expect* it to stay down for a very long time, then things get sporty real quick.
I have thought pretty hard about this honestly. Most people around me aren’t prepared and no one I know is as prepared as I am. My FIL has a lot of guns and ammo but no food. My parents have a lot of food but no protection.
I figure almost everyone around me will be dead in 30 days or less. I’ll bet around half won’t make it 2 weeks and the remaining won’t make it the other two weeks.
I have food for around 30-days but would like to bolster this a bit more. I have water tablets, water filters, and iodine for treating water so I am fine there. Guns, yep, ammo good but could use more always. I need a better secondary heat source honestly.
Make sure you have a winter's worth of dried and seasoned firewood to go along with that plan. It will be too late to harvest it when SHTF... no gas for chainsaws, splitters, tractors, and vehicles to move the wood around; plus competition and exposure for standing dead wood. Someone could easily locate and sneak up on you trying to harvest wood, wait for you to cut it, then snipe your ass and take the wood.My plan if I ever needed it, would be to try and make a micro climate and try to kinda seal off my family room where I have a wood burning fireplace to retain as much heat as possible in a small area. If the rest of the house ends up at 30 degrees but a smaller living/sleeping area is 50-60 that would not be the worst scenario.
I have always liked these conversations. My eyes are opened up more and more every time I read through comments, not just here on the forum but other places as well.
So many think that if they have food, guns and a place to lay ones head, all is good.
The reason I do not believe many would make it is due to not having the correct mindset.
The real ability to do what would need to be done. The unspeakable kinds of things to survive. Being able to turn off all empathy and sympathy in order to survive long term.
All the food, guns and ammo.... No good if you are forced out of your comfort zone....
Nah, not many will be able to those things that we do not speak of.
Purely hypothetical...
On that topic....
2 weeks in
All comms are down, grid is down, no news, rumors of EMP or ww3 or something major has occurred. You're expecting true SHTF. Like worst case scenario, no help is coming. You're on your own.
You have meth heads up the road, who in good times you keep a close eye on them, Now with the likely event of no rule of law to keep them in check and them likely running out of drugs you know they are likely to become unpredictable. Do you "proactively" eliminate the risk of a problem?
These are thought provoking questions. At what point do you totally change your thinking and flip a switch. In a SHTF world you may have to make pro active decisions that you would not anticipate and would not be comfortable with. I know someone here has a bad druggie as an across the street neighbor. That's a huge risk in a true you're on your own SHTF no help is coming, things are not going back to normal anytime soon.
Sometimes being defensive isn't only purely defensive. I'm not saying go steal from Grandma, but if there a know character who very very likely is going to be a problem that's something to think about and you might logically get to an uncomfortable place in your decision making.
Purely hypothetical for storytelling and fictional discussions of course
At that point anyone entering property is a threat. I know the mindset you speak of and you’re right many don’t have it. Leaving others to die of starvation or worse could be hard but you have to pick and choose who is in your circle. I have family who will not make it in my circle and that might be an issue but it’s 6 mouths to feed with not a single good addition to the camp so why would I? They also complain so much they would have a huge negative impact on moral.I have always liked these conversations. My eyes are opened up more and more every time I read through comments, not just here on the forum but other places as well.
So many think that if they have food, guns and a place to lay ones head, all is good.
The reason I do not believe many would make it is due to not having the correct mindset.
The real ability to do what would need to be done. The unspeakable kinds of things to survive. Being able to turn off all empathy and sympathy in order to survive long term.
All the food, guns and ammo.... No good if you are forced out of your comfort zone....
Nah, not many will be able to those things that we do not speak of.
At that point anyone entering property is a threat. I know the mindset you speak of and you’re right many don’t have it. Leaving others to die of starvation or worse could be hard but you have to pick and choose who is in your circle. I have family who will not make it in my circle and that might be an issue but it’s 6 mouths to feed with not a single good addition to the camp so why would I? They also complain so much they would have a huge negative impact on moral.
Yes, and this would be 6 mouths to feed with zero benefit in return. Their one son can fish but that’s about the only benefit I’d see. Their only negative would be that my parents would probably go with them and bring their food stores. I’m fully aware of that and expecting that and that’s life. I have others that are more valuable to me.Picking and choosing who gets resources and who doesn't will be difficult. I am trying mentally make the determination now that those who aren't working on it today have already made their choices and their fate is not my responsibility.
Every meal I give to a person like that who offers no value in return is one less meal for my family. And the end result for that charity meal will still be the same just prolonged another day while harming my family in the process
I figure I'll be alive as long as God wants it that way...do the best with what you've been provided with.The more replies that I read here, the more I think of complete failure.
IndeedI figure I'll be alive as long as God wants it that way...do the best with what you've been provided with.
Don't underestimate how much menial labor will be necessary.Yes, and this would be 6 mouths to feed with zero benefit in return. Their one son can fish but that’s about the only benefit I’d see. Their only negative would be that my parents would probably go with them and bring their food stores. I’m fully aware of that and expecting that and that’s life. I have others that are more valuable to me.
One of my main concerns is making my place not appear to be comfortable from a distance.Have spices on hand for dog and cat fritters.
Most will wait like Katrina for uncle sam, 1/4 will inner city fight/ steal/murder, the rest of us will keep a low profile and tow the weight as it comes.