Epstein Files ..FBI withholds documents.

Well then bring back the drag shows and the rest of the deviants.

GOPerfect said:

Why only Epstein? Why do you think Americans are so fixated on ONE person, ONE place?

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Trump was elected to clean house.
Epstein, and the issues surrounding his death (supposedly) is low hanging fruit.
Kind of like Hunter's laptop.

It happened. We know it happened. And we know the .gov has evidence that it happened.
If they (the Trump Administration) don't prosecute those who partook of Epstein's "product" then how can we believe they will do any of the things we elected him to do?
If they are reluctant to prosecute for something as heinous as pedophilia how can we ever expect them to prosecute for civil rights violations, or graft, or fraud, or any of the numerous other infractions politicians seem to revel in?
It suggests a level of complicity that Trump was supposed to be above. It may have been a pipe dream, but so many people "crossed the aisle" because they saw the Democrat Party out of control and demanded someone clean it up.

No arrests. No accountability. And the rumor is most of the things in the "Big Beautiful Bill" won't even take effect until after the midterms.
The Republicans are going to lose their shirts. If the Democrats can pull their heads out of their asses (and their boyfriend's asses) long enough to run a decent campaign they could easily sweep things next election.

At this point why do "laws" even matter?
Drunk cops, lawyers,judges, corrupt cops,lawyers, judges, etc., only we dumb tax payers following "laws".

Oh if you have kids 18 and under stop by Liverpool school system for free breakfast, no need to even be in the school district.

Everything is FREEEeee!

fresch said:

Everything is FREEEeee!

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Nothing is free. We are paying for it. Only free to the people that dont pay taxes.

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Either a deal was made (passage of the big beautiful bill) or a threat was made.

Either way it's more proof the intelligence agencies run this country.

Tell you what, this group NYGun/ forum could write soo many books, movies,tv shows, from outerspace, bigfoot, military, politics, health, gear, stuff, etc,.
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True??

The Epstein List

In a seismic overnight event already sending shockwaves through elite social circles, a rogue hacker known only as “Island Boy” has breached a protected internal media server and released the full Epstein associate list, a decades in the making web of names, secrets, and suppressed testimony.

The files, posted to a dark web archive at exactly 12:00 a.m. EST, are said to contain the long-speculated “Epstein list”: a roster of individuals connected through flights, financial ties, party invitations, and suspicious silence.

The release comes after years of speculation, half-leaks, sealed court files, and “missing” evidence. Island Boy, whose true identity remains unknown, issued only a short, cryptic message alongside the files, “They buried the truth on an island. I’m just bringing it back to shore.”

• John Connelly, New York police detective
• Alan Dershowitz, prolific lawyer and media pundit who represented Epstein in 2006
• Leonardo DiCaprio
• Al Gore
• Richard Branson, British billionaire and business magnate, founder of the Virgin Group
• Stephen Hawking, British physicist and science author
• Ehud Barak, former Israeli prime minister
• Michael Jackson
• Marvin Minksy, artificial intelligence pioneer
• Kevin Spacey, actor known for his roles in Se7en and House of Cards, found not guilty of sexual assault in 2023
• George Lucas
• Jean Luc Brunel, French model agency boss and alleged Epstein co-conspirator who died in an apparent suicide while awaiting trial
• Cate Blanchett, Australian actor who starred in The Lord of the Rings and Tár
• Naomi Campbell, British model
• Heidi Klum, German-US model
• Sharon Churcher, British journalist
• Bruce Willis
• Bianca Jagger, activist and wife of The Rolling Stones frontman, Sir Mick Jagger
• Bill Richardson, former governor of New Mexico
• Cameron Diaz, actor who starred in Shrek
• Glenn Dubin, an American hedge fund manager who was allegedly friends with Epstein
• Eva Andersson-Dubin, former Miss Sweden and wife of Glenn Dubin, who once dated Epstein
• Noam Chomsky, linguist and political philosopher
• Tom Pritzker, American tycoon and philanthropist
• Chris Tucker, American comedian and actor known for his role in the Rush Hour films
• Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York, former wife of Prince Andrew
• Robert F Kennedy Jr
• James Michael Austrich
• Juan and Maria Alessi, husband and wife working at Epstein’s home in Florida
• Janusz Banasiak, served as Epstein’s Palm Beach house manager
• Bella Klein or Klen (documents differ), a former accountant in Epstein’s New York office
• Leslie or Lesley Groff (documents differ), Epstein’s former secretary, who was named as a co-conspirator in his 2008 plea deal but reportedly will not be charged
• Victoria Bean
• Rebecca Boylan
• Dana Burns
• Bill Gates
• Ron Eppinger, alleged sex trafficker
• Daniel Estes
• Louis Freeh, former director of the FBI
• Frédéric Fekkai, celebrity hairstylist
• Alexandra Fekkai, son of celebrity hairstylist
• Jo Jo Fontanella, Epstein’s butler
• Doug Band, longtime Bill Clinton aide who says he urged Clinton cut ties with Epstein
• Prince Andrew, acused of sexual assaul
• Eric Gany
• Meg Garvin, represented Virginia Giuffre
• Sheridan Gibson-Butte
• Ross Gow, Maxwell’s press agent
• Fred Graff
• Robert Giuffre
• Philip Guderyon
• Alexandra Hall
• Joanna Harrison
• Shannon Harrison
• Victoria Hazel
• Brittany Henderson
• Brett Jaffe
• Forest Jones
• Sarah Kellen, Epstein’s former assistant, named as an unindicted co-conspirator in his 2008 plea deal
• Adriana Ross, Epstein’s former assistant, named as an unindicted co-
conspirator in his 2008 plea deal
• Carol Kess
• Dr Steven Olson
• Stephen Kaufmann
• Wendy Leigh, author
• Peter Listerman
• Tom Lyons
• Nadia Marcinkova, alleged friend of Epstein’s, named as an unindicted co-conspirator in his 2008 plea deal
• Bob Meister
• Jamie Melanson
• Donald Morrell
• David Mullen
• David Norr
• Joe Pagano
• May Paluga
• Stanley Pottinger
• Detective Joe Recarey, former Palm Beach police officer who investigated reports of sexual abuse against children by Epstein
• Chief Michael Reiter, responsible for investigation of sexual abuse against children by Epstein
• Rinaldo and Debra Rizzo, husband and wife who worked for Epstein’s alleged friend Glenn Dubin
• Sky Roberts
• Kimblerley Roberts
• Lynn Roberts
• Haley Robson, named as a “teen recruiter” for Epstein in police
documents
• Dave Rodgers, private jet pilot for Epstein
• Alfredo Rodriquez, butler at Epstein’s Florida home
• Scott Rothinson
• Forest Sawyer
• Dough Schoetlle, investigator
• Cecilia Stein
• Marianne Strong
• Mark Tafoya
• Emmy Taylor, Maxwell’s ex-personal assistant
• Brent Tindall
• Kevin Thompson
• Ed Tuttle
• Les Wexner, founder of L Brands and a former business partner of
Epstein
• Abigail Wexner, wife of Les Wexner
• Cresenda Valdes
• Emma Vaghan
• Anthony Valladares
• Christina Venero, licensed massage therapist
• Maritza Vazquez
• Vicky Ward, investigative journalist and author who claims she was
blocked from covering Epstein’s misdeeds while working at Vanity
Fair
• Jarred Weisfield
• Sharon White
• Courtney Wild
• Daniel Wilson
• Mark Zeff, New York decorator
• Kelly Spamm, unknown person listed as flying on Epstein’s private jet
• Alexandra Dixon, unknown person listed in Epstein’s ‘little black book’
• Alfredo Rodriguez, Epstein’s former household manager, jailed in
2012 for hiding and trying to sell Epstein’s ‘black book’
• Ricardo Legorreta, Mexican designer listed as a passenger on Epstein’s private jet
• Bill Clinton
• Hilary Clinton
• Madonna
• Joe Biden

Trump is trolling again..

last heard there is no list ....



They deleted it ..

A problem I see with releasing that list is that unless there is evidence of them doing something illegal on that island, merely being there is not a crime and would leave a lot of people open to being persecuted for something they may not have done. Would open a big liability issue.

stokes said:

A problem I see with releasing that list is that unless there is evidence of them doing something illegal on that island, merely being there is not a crime and would leave a lot of people open to being persecuted for something they may not have done. Would open a big liability issue.

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THIS! ^^^^^^^^^ A gazillion times, THIS!
Its pretty phuckin easy to accuse someone of something.

I`m not saying they didn`t do anything wrong, nore am i saying they did, but ya better have the phucking proof!

Folks .... When people talk about a "list " I assume it is a plane log or manifest of people flying to his island .Now we I understand he kept a notebook of names ... Is this like a phone book of people he associated with ? .. Is there log book of people that entered his home ? This could be like 20 guests showing up for lunch. .....Now we understand all 3 places ... The ranch, the NY home and the island had cameras ... Filming everything. ... in all rooms... Law enforcement has had these films for years.... I am sure a list has been created of children being molested. (SOP)
,,,,So what list do we want ...

We had all this going on but not one peep from anyone he employed. .. This is amazing ...Of course the drowning of Obama's cook could be a warning ....

The Jeffrey Epstein Case Is Far Bigger Than Jeffrey Epstein​

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Yes we care. It's a huge problem if this goes to pass with no accountability. The loss of faith in government and the justice system will be at the point of reaching irreconcilable differences and a huge portion of America will never trust government again nor believe the justice department has any credibility at all.

This one singular event will determine if many millions of Americans believe we are a rule of law country, or we have become some sort of an irrefutable quasi banana Republic - techno oligarchy where the deep state is too embedded and too much of an immovable object through the ballot box.

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When your first paragraph happens this country might wake up and stop electing the same morons that do this. Until then nothing will change. That point could be a bad tipping point or turn out for the better, time will tell.

Saltwater60 said:

When your first paragraph happens this country might wake up and stop electing the same morons that do this. Until then nothing will change. That point could be a bad tipping point or turn out for the better, time will tell.

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Problem with the morons voting for the morons is that they are all thoroughly brainwashed. Ever notice that they have become severely extreme, radical and the problem has become so widespread over the last 10 or so years? Seems to me it coincides with the rise of smart phone and social media use. I've said it before, back in the 60's they banned putting subliminal messages in tv ads because it was a form of brainwashing. So with that lo tech gear they could brainwash you, imagine what they can do with all these phone zombies with the newer tech? And does anybody think that when they banned it in the 60's that the CIA, etc stopped developing it?

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THIS! ^^^^^^^^^ A gazillion times, THIS!
Its pretty phuckin easy to accuse someone of something.

I`m not saying they didn`t do anything wrong, nore am i saying they did, but ya better have the phucking proof!

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Well, they did originally say they had collected tons of video and photographic evidence. If that's the case, and that evidence still exists, they should go after people based on that evidence. As stated elsewhere, if Epstein and Maxwell were convicted of trafficking young girls, they did it for other people. Those people should pay for their crimes.

I've a few bullet points floating around in that I haven't yet articulated:

First off, everyone is innocent until proved guilty, and simply Flying on a Private Jet to the Island does not rise to the level of criminal conviction.

There is the illegality and reprehensible trauma (to most) who would have to endure the AV assault committed, and since it's illegal to make, have, or view then to me it's hard to figure out how a Jury of peers is going to sit through that evidence to find for the defendant.

Bondi did say those Tapes would never see the light of day, a statement that can easily have several contexts.

The "Black Book" is damning evidence, however a good(sic) Lawyer could argue that name was falsely written, or done so as a reference, with no crime or evidence of one...I dare say anyone on "the list" will have enough money and obvious need to hire the best legal team they could and conversely the Government would have to bring it's A-Game with an enormous Team of it's own...It's hard enough to build a case against a shit-bag with no resources, and you want to bring a wealthy and prominent name to Trial on life imprisoning charges....yea, that isn't going to be easy and less likely successful.

So vile are the allegations of what happened there, no one should have any reservations about arranging a meeting with God for them, but we've got to make sure we've got the right person, the right crime, and the necessary proof, and the poor bastards that have to bear witness to the process may themselves never be right or the same again.

FP1201 said:

I've a few bullet points floating around in that I haven't yet articulated:

First off, everyone is innocent until proved guilty, and simply Flying on a Private Jet to the Island does not rise to the level of criminal conviction.

There is the illegality and reprehensible trauma (to most) who would have to endure the AV assault committed, and since it's illegal to make, have, or view then to me it's hard to figure out how a Jury of peers is going to sit through that evidence to find for the defendant.

Bondi did say those Tapes would never see the light of day, a statement that can easily have several contexts.

The "Black Book" is damning evidence, however a good(sic) Lawyer could argue that name was falsely written, or done so as a reference, with no crime or evidence of one...I dare say anyone on "the list" will have enough money and obvious need to hire the best legal team they could and conversely the Government would have to bring it's A-Game with an enormous Team of it's own...It's hard enough to build a case against a shit-bag with no resources, and you want to bring a wealthy and prominent name to Trial on life imprisoning charges....yea, that isn't going to be easy and less likely successful.

So vile are the allegations of what happened there, no one should have any reservations about arranging a meeting with God for them, but we've got to make sure we've got the right person, the right crime, and the necessary proof, and the poor bastards that have to bear witness to the process may themselves never be right or the same again.

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For the most part I reluctantly agree, except for the part about making arrangements for the actual guilty to meet God. Make no mistake , the truly guilty will Not be meeting God.

jimc said:

Well, they did originally say they had collected tons of video and photographic evidence. If that's the case, and that evidence still exists, they should go after people based on that evidence. As stated elsewhere, if Epstein and Maxwell were convicted of trafficking young girls, they did it for other people. Those people should pay for their crimes.

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Rumor has it, today, that trump is looking to pardon Epstein's old lady. Would that sound like a "here shut up an go away" plan ?

"According to Loomer, Kash Patel and Dan Bongino are absolutely livid with Pam Bondi, and the damage she’s caused is serious enough that some want her gone."


"Source tells me Dan Bongino is taking the day off today from his job as Deputy Director of the FBI, and there’s now speculation on whether or not he will return to his job at the @FBI"


"Bondi even made the cover of the box look like some official classified documents. People were furious."

FWIW


"Bongino appears ready to resign imminently if Bondi remains in office."

S&W Fan said:

For the most part I reluctantly agree, except for the part about making arrangements for the actual guilty to meet God. Make no mistake , the truly guilty will Not be meeting God.

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Judgement?
It's been said before "...The Old Man's a bit of a Hard Ass" and clearly, abusing Children isn't going to go well with him.

I read that Bannon said Patel stated that if Bongino goes, he will resign.

This has turned into an epic shitshow.

The one flaw in Trumps cabinet picks, they’re all Alpha’s and none of them will back down, hence the head butting.