FFL Transfers- What happened to the inexpensive firearm transfers?

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I may buy a handgun from Sig Sauer Custom Shop.
They are running Black Friday sales as much as 20% off.
All the gun stores in the Westchester area now charge $75 or $100.
What happened to the inexpensive firearm transfers?
Any one know of a place that is not as expensive?
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TopShot said:
I may buy a handgun from Sig Sauer Custom Shop.
They are running Black Friday sales as much as 20% off.
All the gun stores in the Westchester area now charge $75 or $100.
What happened to the inexpensive firearm transfers?
Any one know of a place that is not as expensive?
C.B.
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Ny makes it hard to be a ffl. So they will charge more, which discourages buyers. Its by design.
 
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Ny makes it hard to be a ffl. So they will charge more, which discourages buyers. Its by design.
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I know.
My brother use to be a FFL.
He had a gun store in Roscoe, NY, "Big Dog Arms"
He did well especially during the summer and in hunting season.
Unfortunately, Covid destroyed his business, he lost all of his transient trade.
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Gunbroker used to have a search function for FFLs, maybe still does. Shop around is all you can do.
 
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A place local to me is $10 each way but the gas money will cost you more than $65. So not worth it for you.
 
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Even if you’re not buying from GB, you can use their FFL search and it’ll list what they charge.
 
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TopShot said:
I may buy a handgun from Sig Sauer Custom Shop.
They are running Black Friday sales as much as 20% off.
All the gun stores in the Westchester area now charge $75 or $100.
What happened to the inexpensive firearm transfers?
Any one know of a place that is not as expensive?
C.B.
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New York made it much more intrusive, difficult, and expensive to operate a Gun Shop therefor there are fewer Dealers and many of those that remain prefer less work for a Hundred Dollars than more work for the same amount. It takes at a bare minimum, fifteen minutes to "receive" in a Handgun between logging it into the Bound Book, filling out a P-12 (NYSP Form for Handguns) figuring out who the Pistol is for, contacting them, having them fill out a 4473 and running a NICS Check that might add even more time to the process due to delays, doing another P-12 showing the disposition, filing, collecting fees,....yea, the days of $25. Table Top Transfers is OVER!
Why bust my ass doing four transfers and only making a hundred, when I can do one or two for the same money? You think the Box Stores are going to do it for less? Please go there, I've more to do now than I can get done.
 
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My local guy went from $35 to $50 a couple years ago. But does the $35 if you're transferring more than one firearm.
He's in Frewsburg NY if it helps at all.
 
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That’s insane, who would pay $125 for a transfer?

I think the highest I’ve seen here is $50. The FFL I use for transfers charges $20, with a discount to $15 if you have a permit since he doesn’t have to run a NICS.
 
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Parzival said:
That’s insane, who would pay $125 for a transfer?

I think the highest I’ve seen here is $50. The FFL I use for transfers charges $20, with a discount to $15 if you have a permit since he doesn’t have to run a NICS.
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I’d be interested in that last part. I’m required to do background even with a permit. Any chance you can ask him for the reference?
 
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I’d be interested in that last part. I’m required to do background even with a permit. Any chance you can ask him for the reference?
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Poster is out of state. Same where I live: if you have a permit, they don't have to run the NICS (you do still have to fill out the form, they just throw it in a box to be filed later).
 
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Brawny71 said:
I’d be interested in that last part. I’m required to do background even with a permit. Any chance you can ask him for the reference?
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When the Brady Law passed, it provided that if the person submitting the 4473 had a State Issued CCW Licenses less than five years old, then the NICS portion was waived, New York, (specifically Jefferson County) issued a NICS Card that spelled out the holder had a valid CCW Licenses and had been issued within the previous five years...we got away with it for a while, but between Albany and ATF comparing dick sizes, it was ruled invalid, therefor all New Yorker's had to undergo the NICS Check.
"Free States" such as Alabama, Florida, at.al. that Issue Licenses to carry concealed (irrespective Constitutional Carry) still observe the provision.
 
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FP1201 said:
When the Brady Law passed, it provided that if the person submitting the 4473 had a State Issued CCW Licenses less than five years old, then the NICS portion was waived, New York, (specifically Jefferson County) issued a NICS Card that spelled out the holder had a valid CCW Licenses and had been issued within the previous five years...we got away with it for a while, but between Albany and ATF comparing dick sizes, it was ruled invalid, therefor all New Yorker's had to undergo the NICS Check.
"Free States" such as Alabama, Florida, at.al. that Issue Licenses to carry concealed (irrespective Constitutional Carry) still observe the provision.
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It was once every 5 years didn't have to be a new permit my permit was 20 years old when they came out with it and I did it. it was done threw the county where your permit was from I believe it was safe act that done away with it
 
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It was once every 5 years didn't have to be a new permit my permit was 20 years old when they came out with it and I did it. it was done threw the county where your permit was from I believe it was safe act that done away with it
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no it didn't have to be a "new" Licenses, just certified/re-issued within the five year lookback. The County gave out a card with an issue date, and when expired they would run your name and re-issue (presuming no disqualifications)...I stumbled on mine the other day.
 
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Unfortunately yes.
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Bill was a great guy and ran a cool old school hardware store. Whenever I went there for a transfer we would talk for hours about anything and everything. He helped a lot of people with estate sales and I would get the occasional call about cool things he was liquidating. He passed way too young at 63. I will miss him. RIP Bill W.
 
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Navigating NYS is hard to learn for people who live here full time much less coming from a Free State.
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I've been here 3½ years and I'm still trying to adjust to Free-er State ways.

But yes, no NICS with my CHP (Concealed Handgun Permit).

The FFL I use is $25. +$10 for additional transfers at the same time. Normally $100 for NFA transfers. I did two at the same time so she gave me a break at $150 for both.
 
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You could always buy from and support your local FFL. What most do not understand is that an incoming transfer requires the dealer to receive, inspect, and document the incoming firearms. Then when a buyer comes in they need to be processed. Unless things have changed since I moved to TN this will require coming in, taking the shops time to give you the paperwork to submit to the state to have the firearm added to your license (handgun), fill out and complete the 4473 and actually hand over the firearms. It's not just a come in and pick it up deal. Not mention disposing of the received packaging materials.
 
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