US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

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stokes said:
These leftist scumbags would rather see the country get flushed than to see Trump succeeded at anything. TDS is real
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Yes, TDS is very real, and it's a very strange and retarded phenomenon.

I'm sure the Fake News Media propaganda and the dumb gullible people have a lot to do with it.

The TDS cult is the same people who gladly got the experimental so-called vaccine over and over, even though it wasn't yet proven to be safe or effective. And then got all pissed off because some other people who weren't in their cult were smart enough not to wear a stupid, useless mask and go along with the insanity.

The extreme Left is nuts, as in mentally ill. They're brainwashed to the point that they have become a TDS cult. There's no reasoning with those losers.

I don't know what the answer is.

My question is, will the Left act as they do with any future Republican President, or is it just President Trump?

IMO, the modern-day democrats will be the anti-American retarded assholes no matter who the future Republican President may be, as in Vance, Rubio, DeSantis, and so forth.

I think this is what the democrat party has become, it has been hijacked by anti-American retarded radicals. I think they will have a Derangement Syndrome with any future Republican President. The modern day democrat cult goes much deeper than just President Trump.

Anything pro-America or America first triggers the modern day democrats and puts them over the edge. At this point, I consider them my enemy.

I think the modern day democrats will lambast any future Republican President as they do President Trump. They will lambast any President that puts America first, that's because the modern-day Leftists are an enemy of America.


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If a Republican President were to somehow create world peace and prosperity for all.
The modern-day democrats would get all unhinged about it and throw a libtarded shit fit.

Leftists, lol. I hate those fucking fucks... :evil:


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After the Venezuela's Maduro Iran thing is done.

I wonder what the upcoming Cuba military operation will be named?
I'm thinking "Operation FAFO All Over Again."

The Orange Man Good is on a roll.
Our President obviously has a thing about disposing despotic douchebags.



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holdover said:
Weapons of war are only one aspect of it . Power, control of markets,Leverage, other things we never hear about or see. They always sell conflicts as the good guys vs the bad guys .They to do that to gain support for the war from the useless eaters

open your history book to page Yugoslavia, leader disposed civil war , turn to page Libya, leader disposed civil war,Turn to page Egypt, leader disposed civil war , turn to page Tunisia, leader disposed civil war, turn to page Syria, leader disposed civil war turn to page Iraq leader disposed civil war.

If history is a guide, If past events can predict future events than Id say with about 90% certainty that Iran falls into civil war some time after the airstrikes are finished . I will put money on it because the saw the movie before, I know how it ends.
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Tito was not disposed of he died from gangrene the result of a prolonged illness. He was the only thing holding Yugoslavia together.
 
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spat said:
Power vacuums are always messy.

It's anyone's guess who will come out on top. It's very rare that it's someone good.

But, when you have the sorts of leadership they had, you have to keep rolling the dice until you get someone acceptable.

They may need to go through multiple iterations of the leadership purge before things stop sucking.

Some places may never get there (Afghanistan, Gaza, etc...).

The hard part is to *stop* the killing once someone reasonable gains power.
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Iran has very limited experience with a democratic form of government so it's unlikely to develop now (but one can still hope). Even if the mullahs are replaced with a dictator of sorts - as long as he doesn't spread terror throughout the middle east (or rest of the world) then this will still be a vast improvement.
 
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tirwin1 said:
I guess they really believe this nonsense.


Sick culture.
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I believe this is a depiction of the victims of U.S./Israeli attack reunited in Heaven. Book bags are the same as in pictures from the scene. The death toll of school girls is climbing to over a 100. Speaking of sick cultures, it's where elites are given a pass on raping and torturing children.
 
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tirwin1 said:
Iran has very limited experience with a democratic form of government so it's unlikely to develop now (but one can still hope). Even if the mullahs are replaced with a dictator of sorts - as long as he doesn't spread terror throughout the middle east (or rest of the world) then this will still be a vast improvement.
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Yes, a benevolent monarch can be better tan a democracy, it's just unlikely to stay benevolent for more than a generation.

Democracy can still be plenty tyrannical, it's just less likely.

It's all about the odds.
 
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Vapor said:
I'm not actually sure how I feel about this one.


The motivations and cost are never clear.

3 f15s and several lives aren't cheap at all.
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Fortunately it sounds like all the air crew (6) are alive.
F15e have a crew of 2, a pilot and a weapons system officer.

Luckily they all survived and parachuted into Kuwait not Iran.

I would not want to be downed over Iran.




I think total, we are up to 4 KIA, But it's likely going to be higher before this is done.
 
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I'm really conflicted about all this.

I support our military 100%.

But I'm pretty jaded by Iraq/Afghanistan.

I absolutely believe Iran does a lot of bad shit and the Ayatollah was a huge asshole, and the IRGC are terrible people. They absolutely are responsible for American dead. The world is better off without them.

I have no problem with the regular Iranian people. They are just trying to live their lives, and I genuinely hope this ends up better for them and they can prosper and have more freedom.

But the whole thing feels a little slimy to me that we are pre-emptively attacking another country when we should be America first. America first doesn't mean doing Israels bidding for them. It feels like we are being manipulated into this.

I would love to have POTUS share the Intel with the people and explain why we had to attack now without delay. Was Iran realllllly about to put nukes on ICBMs? And even if the intel says so, I'm not sure if I would believe it anyway. Fool me once shame on you....


This might end up great for America and our interests but it also might be an enormous miscalculation.
Honestly if China is planning a move on Taiwan they may not have a better opportunity than right now.

I'm very uneasy about all this. I really wanted a more isolationist position and focus on putting America first. If we have to deviate from our isolationist positions at least clearly communicate to the people WHY we have to do so and why it's in our best interest.
 
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I'm on board with the above post by @Drinkthekoolaid . Something feels off with this, and Trumps silence when being asked why isn't helping anything.
The backlash on our soil doesn't seem like it will be too good in the climate of this country right now. Maybe the end goal is to create a world war right here in the US. Pretty sure a lot more of us don't want a ticket on that ride then there are people who do.
I might be a little of here, but there's a lot of shit that needs to be dealt with right here at home. It's time to really put America First and let these other countries fight their own fights.
 
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Blimey said:
Awesome, another foray into the middle east. Those go so well for us.

His second attack on a country in two months, neither time with congressional approval.

You people ever going to hold him responsible? Ever admit you got conned, or just keep jumping into the mud right after him?

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Why did your wife tell you to be angry about this but not the THOUSANDS of strikes ordered by Obama?
 
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These dirt bags have been telling us what they will do for decades, hell even that shithead Obama helped them out with as much as he thought he could get away with and we paid for it in money and American lives! Well, fuck them! I hope our part in this is quick but ultimately its up to the sandals on the ground to rebuild a decent country for themselves. Most don't understand, the dirtbags still in power still believe they will win this war and it will come with divine intervention! Think about that! Rub them all out.
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Mosinitis said:
I don't see any police in this video, just a bunch of women arguing over who knows what. There are women walking around without hijabs on the streets of Teheran for years.
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More bullshit. Iran's morality police beat and kill women for not being covered in public.

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Death of Mahsa Amini - Wikipedia

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Just one case. Im sure you can find more on your own.
 
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Not sure why, but if this activates the cells here, hopefully under President Trump they too will be eliminated; as we know under the demonrats they would win like in the eu.
 
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I fully support these actions, as I've said before. One thing I dont like is the FBI etc say they are monitoring a number of suspected sleeper cells. If that is the case why aint we taking some action against them instead of monitoring? Just get em the fuck out if they are suspect
 
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He/they/them were on our radar.
Just as they were turning their life around.
For the children.
Democracy
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We have kids trying to have the Charlie Kirk club America in school and the "news" interviews are starting the leftist slant; some female I guess, kid was all about how can the school let in a club that could make a xlzvyn thing feel discriminated or insecure bla bla.
The indoctrination is well along here in the US.
That is the other shoe needing repair.
If we don't get this all done by the time President Trump is out and the democrats win we can kiss this country/world by by.
 
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Rocpo said:
More bullshit. Iran's morality police beat and kill women for not being covered in public.

en.wikipedia.org

Death of Mahsa Amini - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Just one case. Im sure you can find more on your own.
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Not so long ago a man was choked to death by police in the U.S., who tried to arrest him for selling loose cigarettes at the strip mall. However I wouldn't use that story to paint a picture of life in America, that would be grasping at straws. Weird shit can happen in any country. Each story has its own nuances.
There are thousands of videos that show women walking around without hijab on the streets of Iran.
 
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