2A Does Not Protect Semi Automatics

Edwardteach72 · Jul 28, 2019

You seem to be skipping over my whole statement of explaining that they are wrong and how they are not actually pro 2A and if they still stand with anti 2a legislation they are not friends of the 2a

Sounds like you are taking play from other members play book but hey go for it if that's what you need to do to justify sleeping with the enemy

nortatoga · Jul 28, 2019

Edwardteach72 said:
Weird dangerous and unusual weapons.

***edit*** ok not banned but regulated beyond the common citizens ability to own (especially if they matched the 200 tax stamp to inflation)

Correct! And just like Obama Care the Government has the Right to Tax ( Yes, the NFA was a work around of the 2A! ) No I don't like it or agree with it!

spat · Jul 28, 2019

Edwardteach72 said:
Enemy if the 2A pretty much. And I also have other morals so nice try with that.

You seem to be projecting that you are willing to sell out your stance on the 2A to protect some fudd shotgun while he is in bed with the anti gunners and then tell yourself at night that you are helping.. but hey what ever let's you sleep at night

I'm not going to sell out anything, but I'm also not going to cheer when the fudd finds out he can only buy one box of shells for his skeet gun every 90 days after SAFE 2.0 because "he had it coming"

And if he finds out that's what's coming, and he's willing to March on Albany with us to stop SAFE 2.0, I'm not going to kick him out because he thought SAFE 1.0 was fine.

I'll take whatever help I can get, even if it means he is going to crawl back to his trap range and continue to disparage detachable magazines after SAFE 2.0 is defeated.

Even if all he does is get off his ass and vote once against the democrats, I'll take it. You would yell at him that he should vote for FUAC and we don't need his help.

Vapor · Jul 28, 2019

Edwardteach72 · Jul 28, 2019

spat said:
I'm not going to sell out anything, but I'm also not going to cheer when the fudd finds out he can only buy one box of shells for his skeet gun every 90 days after SAFE 2.0 because "he had it coming"

And if he finds out that's what's coming, and he's willing to March on Albany with us to stop SAFE 2.0, I'm not going to kick him out because he thought SAFE 1.0 was fine.

I'll take whatever help I can get, even if it means he is going to crawl back to his trap range and continue to disparage detachable magazines after SAFE 2.0 is defeated.

Even if all he does is get off his ass and vote once against the democrats, I'll take it. You would yell at him that he should vote for FUAC and we don't need his help.

Again they arent helping you, they are writing opeds labeled "I hunt but also support common sense bull shit"

But hey again keep patting the enemy on the back. Split the fight and instead of focusing on actually stopping gun control make sure to keep helping the fudds who are in turn compromising gun ownership out the window.. the fact that you cant see that is a bit funny if it wasn't so sad tbh

spat · Jul 28, 2019

Edwardteach72 said:
Again they arent helping you, they are writing opeds labeled "I hunt but also support common sense bull shit"

But hey again keep patting the enemy on the back. Split the fight and instead of focusing on actually stopping gun control make sure to keep helping the fudds who are in turn compromising gun ownership out the window.. the fact that you cant see that is a bit funny if it wasn't so sad tbh

How are you going to stop gun control if you're not willing to work with anyone else ?

You going to vote FUAC out all by yourself ?

Edwardteach72 · Jul 28, 2019

spat said:
How are you going to stop gun control if you're not willing to work with anyone else ?

You going to vote FUAC out all by yourself ?

Sounds pretty much like the NRA or Democrats main argument right there.. so good job on that congrats..

Edwardteach72 · Jul 28, 2019

And now we see why we have the safe act, the Brady bill, the Hughes amendment, NICS, the NFA...

But hey again as long as you can sleep at night knowing you are helping er I mean fighting side by side with the enemy er I mean standing up for those who dont support the 2A er I mean making a difference than good I'm glad you are ok with that

spat · Jul 28, 2019

Edwardteach72 said:
Sounds pretty much like the NRA or Democrats main argument right there.. so good job on that congrats..

Who are you going to vote for in 2020 ?

Trump ? He's not pure enough.

Is there anyone who could conceivably end up on the ballot who passes muster for you ?

Or are you going to stay home and not vote ? That'll sure show them gun grabbers you mean business.

Edwardteach72 · Jul 28, 2019

spat said:
Who are you going to vote for in 2020 ?

Trump ? He's not pure enough.

Is there anyone who could conceivably end up on the ballot who passes muster for you ?

Or are you going to stay home and not vote ? That'll sure show them gun grabbers you mean business.

Voting for someone is different than telling some fudd hey I know you want to strip away AR15s and suppressors arent protected by the 2A but I'll make sure while fighting to protect those things I'm also going to spend money and energy making sure you can shoot trap every Tuesday

Edwardteach72 · Jul 28, 2019

spat said:
Who are you going to vote for in 2020 ?

Trump ? He's not pure enough.

Is there anyone who could conceivably end up on the ballot who passes muster for you ?

Or are you going to stay home and not vote ? That'll sure show them gun grabbers you mean business.

And in the same token they are all corrupt and the government has become way to bloated but we should keep them that way because it's a good compromise right You seem to be all for compromise lately

spat · Jul 28, 2019

Edwardteach72 said:
Voting for someone is different than telling some fudd hey I know you want to strip away AR15s and suppressors arent protected by the 2A but I'll make sure while fighting to protect those things I'm also going to spend money and energy making sure you can shoot trap every Tuesday

So, you're saying you wouldn't fight a bill that threatens trap shooting every Tuesday ?

Just to spite the fudds because they didn't support us on AWs ?

Why don't you just write up the bill and get Feinstein to submit it for a vote while you're at it.

spat · Jul 28, 2019

Edwardteach72 said:
And in the same token they are all corrupt and the government has become way to bloated but we should keep them that way because it's a good compromise right You seem to be all for compromise lately

I'll vote for whichever one will move us in the right direction, or if that's not an available option, whichever one moves us in the wrong direction the least.

The only alternates are to give up, or to start shooting.

I'm not going to give up, and I'm not ready to start shooting, yet.

Edwardteach72 · Jul 28, 2019

spat said:
So, you're saying you wouldn't fight a bill that threatens trap shooting every Tuesday ?

Just to spite the fudds because they didn't support us on AWs ?

Why don't you just write up the bill and get Feinstein to submit it for a vote while you're at it.

If it takes away energy and money away from fighting magazine bans? Yea I'll skip that trap shoot meeting and put my energy for something more serious...

Hahaha what bill? Now your just grasping at straws there bub

Edwardteach72 · Jul 28, 2019

spat said:
I'll vote for whichever one will move us in the right direction, or if that's not an available option, whichever one moves us in the wrong direction the least.

The only alternates are to give up, or to start shooting.

I'm not going to give up, and I'm not ready to start shooting, yet.

Not that is not the alternatives..

You would be suprised how many fudds actually finally listen when you explain to them they are nothing but turncoats, but you would rather suck them off and help them say dumb shit like "suppressors arent protected" or "no one needs a bump stock"

spat · Jul 28, 2019

Edwardteach72 said:
Not that is not the alternatives..

You would be suprised how many fudds actually finally listen when you explain to them they are nothing but turncoats, but you would rather suck them off and help them say dumb shit like "suppressors arent protected" or "no one needs a bump stock"

How many fudds have you converted with the "open carry of RPGs is protected" line ?

I'm not saying that you accept any of the existing infringements for anything more than arguments sake, I am saying that you start with "why should I have to cut the bayonet lug off my vintage rifle" because that will resonate with them better than "I want a cruise missile in my backyard"

spat · Jul 28, 2019

Edwardteach72 said:
Not that is not the alternatives..

You would be suprised how many fudds actually finally listen when you explain to them they are nothing but turncoats, but you would rather suck them off and help them say dumb shit like "suppressors arent protected" or "no one needs a bump stock"

Plus, what are you doing talking to fudds for anyway, I thought you said they were the enemy ?

Edwardteach72 · Jul 28, 2019

spat said:
How many fudds have you converted with the "open carry of RPGs is protected" line ?

I'm not saying that you accept any of the existing infringements for anything more than arguments sake, I am saying that you start with "why should I have to cut the bayonet lug off my vintage rifle" because that will resonate with them better than "I want a cruise missile in my backyard"

And how many fudds rights are actually being attacked that you are so buisy white knighting for to protect?

How fudds have you "converted" into saying repeal the NFA just because you said dont worry I'll stand next you when the come for your over under even though you don't think any of us should bump stocks

Edwardteach72 · Jul 28, 2019

spat said:
Plus, what are you doing talking to fudds for anyway, I thought you said they were the enemy ?

Seeing as most gun people are in some way fudds and they then want to try and talk to other gun people cause they think the know shit..

I dont agree with dirty hippies but a good portion of my friends are dirty hippys, and sorry that if someone disagrees with you on a single issue you wont associate with them.

I have plenty of anti 2a "pro gun" friends and I make sure to let them know at any and every occasion they are not friends of the 2A

spat · Jul 28, 2019

Edwardteach72 said:
And how many fudds rights are actually being attacked that you are so buisy white knighting for to protect?

How fudds have you "converted" into saying repeal the NFA just because you said dont worry I'll stand next you when the come for your over under even though you don't think any of us should bump stocks

None. Repealing the NFA at this point would be like the british attempting to invade Berlin in 1940.

Trying to fight that battle right now would be a suicide mission that just wastes resources that would be better spent on stuff we can win.

Edwardteach72 · Jul 28, 2019

spat said:
None. Repealing the NFA at this point would be like the british attempting to invade Berlin in 1940.

Trying to fight that battle right now would be a suicide mission that just wastes resources that would be better spent on stuff we can win.

And yet there are those out there who are trying and actually challenging the NFA in court.

But thankfully unlike them you are making sure that you are letting fudds know that no one is coming for their 30-30

spat · Jul 28, 2019

Edwardteach72 said:
Seeing as most gun people are in some way fudds and they then want to try and talk to other gun people cause they think the know shit..

I dont agree with dirty hippies but a good portion of my friends are dirty hippys, and sorry that if someone disagrees with you on a single issue you wont associate with them.

I have plenty of anti 2a "pro gun" friends and I make sure to let them know at any and every occasion they are not friends of the 2A

So basically you agree with me then.

I don't imagine you start a conversation with your anti gun friends by talking about eliminating the NFA.

You start by pointing out the most obvious and most egregious flaws in recent legislation.

Once you can get them to agree that the bayonet lug ban is dumb, then they have crossed the threshold into "yea, some gun control is dumb". Then it's just a matter of expanding their idea of what that "some" is.

Edwardteach72 · Jul 28, 2019

spat said:
So basically you agree with me then.

I don't imagine you start a conversation with your anti gun friends by talking about eliminating the NFA.

You start by pointing out the most obvious and most egregious flaws in recent legislation.

Once you can get them to agree that the bayonet lug ban is dumb, then they have crossed the threshold into "yea, some gun control is dumb". Then it's just a matter of expanding their idea of what that "some" is.

Honestly yes I do start out with the NFA, or that prior to 1986 you could buy a machine gun at a gun store new off the line under NFA law, or that prior to 1993 no one needed a "background" check

I will also mention to them as soon as the say something fucking stupid like "suppressors arent covered by the 2a because they are accessories" that they in turn support magazine bans

spat · Jul 28, 2019

Edwardteach72 said:
And yet there are those out there who are trying and actually challenging the NFA in court.

But thankfully unlike them you are making sure that you are letting fudds know that no one is coming for their 30-30

Exactly the opposite. I'm pointing out to fudds that their 30-30 is next on the chopping block, and if they don't put a stop to the current round of stuff they're next.

I'll point out that optic on their deer rifle means it'll be called a "sniper rifle" in the next round of legislation.

I'll show them where the Democrats are saying that one box of ammo is enough for their trap gun for 3 months.

Uninformed and Compliant · Jul 29, 2019

Silly question, but...

since govt power is based on the delegation of our personal rights in this country,

if we don't have a right to semi-autos,

how does govt have any power to possess them?

Grimscale · Jul 31, 2019

Uninformed and Compliant said:
Silly question, but...

since govt power is based on the delegation of our personal rights in this country,

if we don't have a right to semi-autos,

how does govt have any power to possess them?

The U.S. Government, originally conceived as "by the People, for the People" has taken on a bloated, slimy life of its own. In its disgusting, putrid mass of what would be a mind it follows the concept of "might MAKES right", and so does what it wants, regardless of the wants or needs of the People of this Country.
Until Americans realize they have the power to take back their government, this disease and corruption ridden, festering corpse will continue to feed on healthy Law-abiding Americans until there is nothing left.

2A Does Not Protect Semi Automatics

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