investigators want information on users of Obsidian 4

Drinkthekoolaid said:

I know you guys are sick of hearing it, I'm becoming a broken record, but by my acknowledgement of that fact it's even more important to remind everyone.

We are actually beginning to live with big brother watching us. We are becoming dangerously close to living under a techno-dictatorship.

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Not just beginning...

The largest expense immediately after 9-11 was spent on tooling surveillance to look "inward" in the United States, no outward... There is plenty that is known, it's the unknown that slowly seeps out. You are just getting glimpse. What they track and can actually see would scare the shit out of everyone!

kev74 said:

I'm torn between avoiding everything or downloading the app to give them one more dead end to have to track down.

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Unfortunately with their ability to cross reference databases with the computer power they have 100k more downloads wouldn’t slow them down. We have surrendered our privacy for cheap convenience

Maybe an EMP isn’t sounding so bad after all...

Just think if the had called it something other than “obsidian 4”, like “cuomo’s tiny penis” then we would see headlines such as :

“investigators want information on users of Cuomo’s tiny penis”

The legitimate reason given for the inquiry was the export of such tech.
We don't want bad guys having our cool stuff.
That said ; the potential and probability for abuse and misuse is off the charts high; especially given the swampy DS recently revealed.

Fast n Furious guns umm into mexico i think Crickets still

sept 6th ..

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American Technologies Network Corp. (“ATN”) today learned of the possible existence of a federal order issued to Apple and Google to provide usernames regarding one of our products, the ATN Obsidian 4. ATN was unaware of these allegations until the publication of a Forbes magazine article entitled, “Exclusive: Feds Order Apple And Google To Hand Over Names Of 10,000+ Users Of A Gun Scope App”.

ATN has not been contacted by the Department of Justice, Apple, or Google. ATN will protect its customers and their identifying data to the absolute extent possible under U.S. law. And, it will not provide any information regarding the identity of our customers to any third party unless specifically required by law."

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/d...obsidian-4-rifle-scope-app-from-apple-google/

now the fun part .. was this app put on other places ( cross posted ) per say to get .. there are lots of other places to get phone app downloads ..

MadScientist said:

Maybe an EMP isn’t sounding so bad after all...

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EMP has been a threat for ages. So which infrastructure do you think gets hardened first? .gov or public/commercial use?

MothMan said:

Data base, FUACs favorite two words.

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I prefer data bass

Data-Bass

15hz feels great.

Saltwater60 said:

I’m telling you my wife’s phone combined with Facebook listens to her speaking and suggests things in her browser that she and I have never searched for.
A few weeks ago she showed me her Facebook feed and said hey weren’t we just talking about this? I didn’t search it did you? This has happened a few times over the last year or so.
Cabelas offered me a birthday discount even though I’ve never given them my birthday officially. I’ve given it while buying ammo and paid with a debit card. Those two must be communicating. It’s worse than we all know.

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For the first time ever I just noticed a really disturbing, similar situation.

15 minutes ago I was talking about Social Security Administration with several co-workers because we need to get an abstract for work. And I just opened up my YouTube account and they had an advertisement for the Social Security Administration. I'm sure this has happened to me before but I just never noticed it, and it goes to show that our telephones are listening to our conversations.

Deplorable Me said:

Pretty soon cell phones will be registered and regulated like handguns. Never loan them to a friend or family member, lock them up at night.

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I think they are no one has just pushed it yet. One of the past administrations made it illegal for you to root your own phone. Cant track you without there code in it. Never mind they reversed it they found away around it.

US government says it's now okay to jailbreak your tablet and ...

So I watched Glenn Beck's interview with Tim Pool. They got into the invasive nature of Big Tech and Pool had and interesting take. He said to think they're listening to you is a naive view. What's probably happening is that they have collected and connected enough data on you to predict that you'd have a need or desire to interact with the SSA before it actually happened.

If they can/do operate primarily operate using behavioral prediction, that means they have everything they need to steer you and the rest of society wherever they desire. The implications are nightmarish.

ManrisFrack said:

So I watched Glenn Beck's interview with Tim Pool. They got into the invasive nature of Big Tech and Pool had and interesting take. He said to think they're listening to you is a naive view. What's probably happening is that they have collected and connected enough data on you to predict that you'd have a need or desire to interact with the SSA before it actually happened.

If they can/do operate primarily operate using behavioral prediction, that means they have everything they need to steer you and the rest of society wherever they desire. The implications are nightmarish.

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I heard an interesting experiment to try in this vein.

Pick some very obscure vacation destination and talk about it for a day or 2, then see if it starts showing up in your feed.

You would obviously need to locate an obscure destination without searching the internet for it from any devices connected to you for this to be a good test.

But if you suddenly start seeing ads for the Royal Carlton Hotel in Bologna Italy, it should be a fairly safe bet they didn't "predict" you were interested in that one...