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  1. spat

    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    If a guy holding a knife says he's going to stab you, you don't have to wait for him to swing it at you to eliminate the threat
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    If you have enriched uranium and natural uranium (as you would at an enrichment facility), and you blow it up, you basically just un-enriched all of the expensive stuff. Think of enrichment like this. You have a bin full of black sand with a tiny bit of red mixed in. About 60 pounds of sand...
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Legally he would have to inform them within 48 hours if he launched the nukes. Pretty sure that'd be just a formality at that point.
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    The GBU-57 bunker busters penetrate 200 feet into the earth before detonating. There's probably not much to see. There's some pics of a shallow underground nuclear explosion to compare here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedan_(nuclear_test) That test was deeper than fordow (600 feet vs...
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    The war powers act only requires the president to inform congress within 48 hours of mobilizing troops. Then he has 60 days to prosecute whatever campaign he deems necessary. If congress hasn't approved the actions by then, he has another 15 ? days (IIRC) to withdraw the troops.
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Unlikely, since they are deeply buried sites. Even if there was, it would be local contamination only.
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    Political Picture thread. (humor/memes/etc)

    They're modifying a C5 now for extra capacity in case they have to escalate to Rosie O'Donnell.
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    We call lots of things a war. War on drugs, war on poverty, etc... it's almost cliche. Certainly not every military action is a war. Would be hard to call Grenada or Panama a war. Kinda hard not to call Vietnam a war, but at the same time we *weren't* fully committed to it as a nation the...
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    If someone had the capability of taking out the Cheyenne mountain complex, what *could* we do LOL. These sorts of questions make the assumption that the US and Iran are equals. We are not. If one street gang kills a leader of another gang, the other gang will probably kill some members of...
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    There are a lot of ways of calculating that statistic. Is that 74% of the missiles they attempted to destroy, 74% of all incoming missiles, etc... Also, over what time frame ? 74% of missiles over a day, a week, or a 5 minute interval during a saturation attack ? Depending on whether you...
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Congress basically gave POTUS a 60 day window to do what he wants with the war powers act. Fully committing the US military to an objective for 60 days, if you weren't in a war before you would be then, assuming there's anyone left to fight.
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Depends on the circumstances and current political climate.
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    If only congressionally declared wars count, we haven't fought a war since 1945. But like so much else, congress has delegated their authority to the executive via the war powers act. Congress critters are allergic to doing their job or actually making decisions.
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    They're following the same path as their neighbor Afghanistan. Vibrant western style nation in the 60s-70s, overthrown by an Islamic theocracy, then pick fights with superpowers and get bombed back to the stone age.
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    They stop 90+% of the dangerous incoming missiles. They don't waste ammo on ones that aren't going to hit anything important. Nobody advertises the iron dome as impenetrable, 90+% is pretty damn good.
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    Removing coating from aluminum frame

    If you know what the coating is, a good chemical stripper is probably best. A can of carburator rebuild dip can work wonders, and is meant for precision aluminum components. If you can't tell what the coating is, that's worth a try. "Aircraft coating remover" is good for a lot of stuff too...
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Not sure it works like that. The GBU-57 "Massive Ordinance Penetrator" is a 30,000 lb bomb 20 feet long that is specifically designed to destroy *very* deeply buried targets. It can penetrate *60 feet* of reinforced concrete or 200 feet of normal earth and rock. The normal "bunker busters"...
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    Do you support US involvement against Iran

    The MOPs can *only* be dropped by the B2s. Not even the B1 or B52 can drop them. They're physically too large for the bomb bays. You could theoretically push one out of the back of C130 or something, but I think the accuracy goes out the window, and they need pinpoint accuracy to be...
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    Do you support US involvement against Iran

    We have detonated over 1000 full up nuclear bombs underground. We know what it looks like. These nuclear facilities are also deep underground. Contamination is not an issue.
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    Do you support US involvement against Iran

    It's not. The nuclear facilities are hardened structures deep underground. The contamination will stay right there.
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    The only real thing they need us for is the MOPs. They are the only bomb that can reach deep enough for that uranium enrichment site. The B2 is the only aircraft that can deliver them. And we're not loaning or selling them to anyone.
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    Senate Deputy Leader Gianaris Passes Legislation Creating A Ten-Day Waiting Period To Purchase A Firearm

    It will end up "10 business days" then "10 business days for the investigation office, which is only open Feb 29th".
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    Isreal already has air superiority over Iran in their own. Adding 4 aircraft carriers more combat capability to the mix means massive ground strikes in the least. There may not be an Iranian military to speak of this time next week. Wonder where Russia will get it's drones now ?
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    It's not so much "why do they need them", although the Ukraine situation is proof why you want them. If Ukraine hadn't given up their nukes they wouldn't have half their country in enemy hands. It's more who gets to have them. France was on the winning team in WWII, and they had the technical...
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    Short Act bill (short barrel no NFA needed)

    Think i need to buy the CMMG barrel for my PS90 before they're all sold out in the rush. Even if this doesn't pass, I'll have it for when I file the paperwork eventually anyway.
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    You seem to think they have a say in this. They have about as much say as Afghanistan and Iraq did 20 years ago. And you are mistaken about the Pakistan thing. *Iran* said that Pakistan should do that. I suspect Pakistan is a lot less enthusiastic about starting shit with the US than Iran.
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    When half the Iranian airforce has been destroyed, it's going to be hard to flip that back. Isreal massively outclassed Iran in the air when they still had their whole airforce. They're not making that back anytime soon. Plus, it's not like they're buying any new F4s or F14s to replace their...
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    They're used to random rockets blowing stuff up for the last 40 years. The intensity is a bit higher than usual, but it's not new for them. Sort of like the difference between a blizzard in Buffalo and a blizzard in Atlanta.
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    It's a major concern, but the farmland is irrelevant. You don't need a base of operations near the target to launch the drones. You just need to park a truck on the side of the road for 5 mins.
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    It's not whether they need them or not. It's whether they can be trusted with them. Think of it like this. In a TEOTWAWKI situation, you live in a small remote town with people from all over the world. Only a handful of people in the whole town have guns, but you are well stocked. Most of...
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    US and Iran conflict thread. ( merged threads)

    There is zero point for N Korea to have a military at all. It wouldn't even be a speed bump for either of their neighbors. North Korea has about as much use for a military as Liechtenstein.
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