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Ideally you don’t get shot but overall it went well.

It’s tougher for sure. I carry a gov model steel quite a bit. Most seem to go for light commanders.

If you go steel what’s the reason for a commander? You aren’t saving much weight and it’s not that much smaller.

Got the draw on him? This wasn’t a showdown. If I’m in a corner with a gun waiting and shoot at the first thing I see It’s not impressive.

It’s tragic in either case but that thought went through my mind also.

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They used to bring the da or ada in at some classes to scare people. Or try to scare people. They would basically say if you use it we will prosecute for the most part. A guy I know asked them what their conviction rate was haha

The worst part is the instructors were all cops.

Yeah as others have pointed out the ccw course many of us have taken us totally wrong. They are flat out incorrect on the article 35 portion. W were taught that you cannot shoot during a burglary without being attacked basically and that we have a duty to retreat in our own homes. That’s what I...

They didn’t offer it as advice. They said it was the law. They might not have actually known the law I guess.

It was four shots with a revolver. One gun involved.

The state police saying it’s an unusual case due to the hoarding and the condition of the house. They say it’s making the investigation more complex. They also say it’s not fit to live in. Yes there are laws for they type of thing.

In New York, you don't have a duty to retreat in your own home. Where are you going to retreat to?” Menkin said. “Juries are instructed as part of the justification defense that people can use deadly force to repel a burglar or a burglary in progress or if they reasonably believe it's a...

Most houses have running water, electricity and don’t look abandoned. Many other states also require handguns to be registered. Most houses are not cluttered due to hoarding (making the investigation more complex). This is not a normal case.

Probably sat under boxes of old newspapers for 50 years. I can’t believe he found it in time.

He also dropped two with an old revolver. Wheel gun for the win! I read he ordered them To stop and one lunged at him. He shot 4 times and scored two. If it’s all true he’s going to be ok. No need to call the Syracuse divorce lawyer.

This sheds some more light on this case. They didn’t think it was abandoned and were looking to steal his hoard! The guy had stole from him before. They also might have known each other. He might be fine. New York man facing illegal weapons charge after killing 2 burglars in his home says...

Reports say hoarder but they are often wrong!

Bull shit. If I shoot a guy with a phone the odds of me being charged are much better than a cop being charged. What I have read has told very little. He might be fine and maybe not. From what I have read it’s far from cut and dry like some here think.

He might face a civil suit for hoarding collection.

And the da might do the opposite. Dead men tell no tales and “I was scared” might work for cops shooting people with cell phones in their hands but I don’t think it will with an average joe with an illegal gun (in ny). Time will tell. I’m also guessing a guy without running water can’t afford...

I’m well aware of that. However was it two against one? Was there any attack? I don’t see this going away if he just started shooting in this state.

We will see but this is not a normal case. It looks like he killed two unarmed people with an illegal gun in ny. The two very well may have thought they were going into an abandoned dump to most likely do drugs in. In this state (in an anti gun county) I don’t see him walking on this.

I thought you were saying speaking right away without legal representation was a good thing. Also he will be getting more charges.

And it very well still might. I see charges on the way.

In jail with a felony charge isn’t exactly working out well. How does waiting for a lawyer hurt you?

I hope that’s sarcasm. It’s never a good idea to talk without a lawyer. Keep your mouth shut. Talking without a lawyer can only hurt you long term.

You don’t know that it would mean more initial Charges. A lawyer can talk for/with you. It’s never a good idea to talk without legal representation after any shooting (justified or not). I also have a feeling more charges are coming. Why rush it? Once they go through that disgusting house (he’s...

Quick let’s call that divorce lawyer from Syracuse! Haha

They are all over the place here. Can also take the stream light racker. The 20 ga will also take a brace. I think I’m getting one in 20

The tac 14 already has the cross bolt. If you don’t mind Remington...

Why would anyone modify a Glock? Thought it Was perfection?

Take my money. I hate the magpul mount. The light slams into my hand. That’s about the only option for an 870 dm. Until now. Going to order soon.

What “other things” were used? It was a Kimber so I’m surprised it even worked. The judge didn’t allow the violent record of the guy who was shot to be admissible. I think that’s pretty standard but I don’t agree.

Since never. It’s there might as well ride it. Same thing I say to the wife.

Thanks!

If you get a chance can you please measure? I’m looking into case options. thanks!

Looks great. What’s the overall length with the brace?

I take it back you wacko.

So it’s only diet and exercise right? Dr evil must be onto something. He doesn’t even get upset when trolled haha

I will be in reality. You can be in whatever weird place diet and exercise can prevent measles and polio is. :wave::nutkick:

Doc is measles is making a comeback because people aren’t getting vaccines? Yes or no?

Perhaps the number is low because oh I don’t know the exposure rate is low? As it climbs so will deaths.

This 8-Month-Old Was Hospitalized From Measles Before She Was Old Enough to Be Vaccinated Surely this couldn’t have been prevented....

Here you go haha Flight Attendant from Israel in Coma After Getting Measles Virus Different source

Right because cnn would make up that story. Let me see if the anti vaccine sites covered it. They seem legit.

Or get the vaccine and also take care of yourself? Babies that get it must not have had enough exercise? Diet no good? Also this: Measles leaves Israeli flight attendant in coma - CNN

The “big pharma” wants money from vaccines argument is flawed. They make much more money from people living into old age and being on 20 pills a day for years than they do from people getting vaccines. They are about profits but vaccines aren’t the big money makers. The rise in measles shows how...

Wait a minute... the groups that shun vaccines are getting measles? Shocking.

The originals were hard to get. Back then they were about the only game in town for a small quality police backup gun. Could be a big seller now. I just wish they would put some sights on them now. Small sights would work just anything...