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She’s just like Kristen Gillibrand. She spent her time as a 20th district representing pretending to be a political neighbor of what was then the Tea Party crowd. Pro-gun, anti-immigrant, Blue Dog. Then she ran for Senate and showed her true colors, threw her former constituents under the bus as...

The new felony in the draft for criminal possession in a sensitive location includes not only firearms but shotguns and rifles (no exception for cased, locked and unloaded). No more taking that fudd gun on the plane, train, or bus for you comrade. You gotta hike, bike or drive it in a private...

The Guardian reporting “Lawmakers had hoped to have a vote on Thursday but drafting the bills continued until shortly before 1.30am on Friday and was set to resume later in the day.” Anyone see that that draft linked requires providing social media accounts from the past three years?

The Guardian reporting “Lawmakers had hoped to have a vote on Thursday but drafting the bills continued until shortly before 1.30am on Friday and was set to resume later in the day.”

The reports are that the legislature started meeting Thursday afternoon for a “one day session.” They are apparently still working through the night. No bills have been introduced, no texts are available, the work is not being live-streamed and the senate and assembly are “at-ease” while their...

Federal law only permits sale of long guns by FFL's that are legal in the purchaser's home state. So for instance going forward out-of-state FFL's will have to check your NY "semi auto permit" to sell you a semi-auto rifle. This stupid law if it held up would presumably keep out-of-state FFL's...

I see where y’all are coming from but I’m chuckling at the level of paranoia. It’s literally a directory established by law by bipartisan agreement to promote New York agriculture with a trivial opt out. Any commercial farmer has to deal with reams of accounting and record keeping for state and...

Look at the last link, allegedly he and four others were under grand jury indictment and there was an arrest and search warrant executed as part of a multiagency investigation for moving drugs and guns involving feds, county and city at least.

Note the only assault weapon charge was for "One of the long rifles was found partially disassembled, but fit the definition of an assault weapon once reassembled." In other words this guy was compliant on all his long guns. He was screwed for pistols without a permit including a loaded pistol...

Had some time to chew over the decision today. While it remains the case that the backlash makes the immediate effects for upstate NYers in friendly counties a likely negative in the near/mid term, this case does stand for a lot more than a right to carry pistols. The 6 vote majority set a new...

You do and the court did not say restrictions are unconstitutional. It said a "proper cause" requirement is unconstitutional.

This ruling has a much bigger impact on a no-issue state like NJ. For friendlier upstate counties it's only likely to prompt the state to make our lives worse.

Unless the state jumps in and requires a reapplication that is not necessary. Judges can remove restrictions like any other amendment. Plenty of upstate counties issue hunting and target and then remove restrictions later if you ask. So they can and should remove them now based on this opinion...

I'm don't usually "ditto" but this guy gets it.

Doesn't go that far. They can't demand "proper cause." Now to be clear "proper cause" is really the foundation of restricted permits in New York up until now. So in gun friendly counties this should make unrestricted a matter of course. But this still leaves the administrative basis of...

I'm reading the text and not seeing that at all. It will likely be like that in the friendly counties upstate and it may move closer to that statewide or eventually effectively become all or nothing but procedurally restrictions aren't invalidated. They just can't require you to have a special...

This is not changing anything except that those who were denied for lack of proper cause can reapply and can't be denied on that basis, and proper cause cannot be demanded on applications going forward. If you have restricted you will still need to apply to remove the restriction. You don't need...

Thomas with 6 5 (6 to 3) concurrences. Kav & Roberts filed another concurrence. My first scan of the syllabus shows that the holding is relatively narrow as expected; the "proper cause" carry requirement is held to violate the 2A; this doesn't touch anything else about the licensing scheme...

This thread would be off-topic except that it shows how abortion and guns are two issues that this country is irreconcilably and irretrievably divided on and there can be no stable middle ground, and these issues do not line up with each other. As long as you believe that it's fine to live in a...

You can get -5 floorplates for 10 round PMAGs cheap. These are typically for hunting and suffice for complying with both the ECL for hunting and Rochester city code. Or you could improve something similar. Honestly this is ridiculous and it's Rochester city code we are talking about here.

The point I was making is there’s hardly a scenario where your mag capacity would be an issue by itself in Rochester, because one is not ordinarily going to be shooting in Rochester. You shoot at an outdoor range in city limits? We all see what you said. I suggested neighboring counties, and...

The SAFE act limit that was overturned was 7 rounds in a 10 round magazine. 5 round magazines are available so this would hold up if it's not preempted by the state, and to my knowledge it is not in New York. But yeah it would be a wild scenario where this came up in isolation. Mag-dumping next...

That's nothing to brag about. You don't have Rochester's BS city ordinances but you have New York's BS laws and Monroe County's sheriff, DA, and judges. Monroe went for Biden by 21 points when all the surrounding counties went the other way.

What situation do you see yourself in where police would be checking your magazine capacity inside Rochester city limits? That should answer your question. There have been just a handful of cases identified here as "pure SAFE Act" arrests where there were not other, generally more serious...

The only way the Shockwave has avoided ATF classification as an SBS is that it has never had a stock on it and was manufactured without it. If you put a stock on it then you are in dangerous territory compliance-wise for ever putting the 14 inch barrel back on it. Or even possessing the 14 inch...

Once again, Penal Law § 265.01-b subdivision (a) flatly criminalizes possession of any firearm. Period. Plus in subdivision (b), pre-SAFE-act assault weapons that weren't registered and grandfathered in. Permits create an exemption to come in § 265.20, for "possession of a pistol or revolver by...

If you want to believe a court will find that a pistol grip only shotgun is "intended to be fired from the shoulder" then there's no arguing with you. And if you want to register a clearly banned firearm with the state of New York of all places on your pistol permit so that NYSP knows exactly...

July 6. And out-of-state FFLs will also be responsible under federal law for not selling them to NY residents. So get yours now or start packing if you want one. Good luck with that. Precedents say it's only ex post facto if the law criminalized possession in the past. There's all sorts of...

No. Just no. If you need more than that, I can record a deed conveying the state capitol to me, does that make me the owner when the clerk accepts it? Please don't answer.

Yeah, I'd try to put it nicely but your entire analysis is a mess. PGO shotguns were legal because they didn't fit in anything prohibited. They were not "shotguns" under the plain definition in the NY penal law, nor any of the enumerated "firearm" categories. Now they fit the new definition of...

I made this point directly. I could ask a judge to put a short lobster on a pistol permit and just because he signs off on it doesn't make it legal to possess a short lobster. All a pistol permit can do is make it legal for the holder to possess a listed pistol in New York. If it's not "any...

I think Kav and ACB would both be sympathetic to finding Shockwaves but especially PGO shotguns to be "in common use" and therefore 2A protected (how far back to PGO shotguns go? probably at least the 1600s in some form?), but until we see a tidal shift in SCOTUS's 2A jurisprudence I do not...

:mad: So glad I never got a pistol permit and lost so many semiauto rifles in a tragic boating accident. Your pistol permit is revoked, you lose all your guns. And a threshold lower than the already ridiculous threshold for a temporary order of protection. In this case, no process or evidence...

What would prevent me first of all is that I don't have a gun confiscation, sorry, pistol, permit. Why don't you try it? This might work in some counties. Registering an illegal gun doesn't make it legal. If NYSP finds you with a gun on their naughty list producing a permit won't save you. I...

Banned altogether. You can keep legal semi-auto rifles you own now, you might still be allowed to buy non-semis and convert them to semi without a permit, although you'd almost certainly at least be violating the new gunsmithing laws without a gunsmith permit, unless you did the conversion out...

Can you point to the source or bill/law section where this comes from? Thanks. 9.46 reports to DCJS only the name/identity of the subject. If that's all it takes some "SJW professional" to unilaterally and permanently strip 2A rights without any process this is a ridiculously blatant infringement.

So we now are having to grapple with the impact of the new gun package rammed through in NY. The "other" ban was obviously promoted to close the "loophole" where apparently full-featured AR "pistols" with a vertical grip were apparently legal (with 10 round mags), but its expansive language...

I thought the statewide rule required you to give up your license if you didn't retain property, employment, or part-time residence in a NY county. There's probably no way they check that when you move or renew, but that's what I saw as far as the law was concerned. Am I mistaken? Even moves...

LaGuardia is not “classed as” NYC it is NYC. If you show up there to fly with a gun without a city permit you will be arrested. You can layover there with a gun checked but that is playing with fire for all the reasons mentioned, if your connection has problems. Until such time as SCOTUS forces...

Federal law requires you to go through an FFL to buy out of state, and for long guns, they need proof of your residency matching the state you put on ATF 4473, and the FFL is not allowed to complete the transfer unless the the gun is legal to possess in your own state. Pistols and others can...

Didn't the ATF effectively already do this for most "others" last year? https://blog.princelaw.com/2019/07/05/atf-rescinds-prior-methods-to-measure-a-firearms-overall-length-when-equipped-with-a-stabilizing-brace/ Or are you talking about other others? There's a SHIT-ton of Shockwaves and...

I agree that most judges won't require much to get a warrant (rubber stamp), and probably a lot of companies will turn shit over with nothing more than a subpoena ... what I am questioning is the resources and effort they put into going to the trouble that at least three agencies put to target...

That’s true and you may be right; most major dealers don’t sell the solvent traps and you can’t legally have a suppressor in New York; but all the same that would be disturbing; how do they have probable cause that he drilled them out? Is tracking some random solvent trap customer that much of a...

I see, I’ve been wading through that thread and I see that the senate bill was amended and has apparently got new life. I would hope there is a lot more to this story than a federal, state and local coordinated long-term investigative team taking down a guy building a few no-no pistols for his...

How it cycles is decidedly not irrelevant. It cycles with finger power. It’s not a semiauto. An Uzi will not cycle at all with snap caps as it relies on the cartridge’s energy to cycle as with any semi- or automatic firearm. Open or closed bolt, it’s physically impossible for this PCC to cycle...

This is concerning as to what tipped them off, however there is some misinformation here as he was arrested with an unregistered (and unregisterable) loaded unserialized and apparently functional pistol in his vehicle, and that’s what he was charged with. When you are charged with a gun felony...

This depends very heavily on state and sometimes even local law, just as self-defense laws depend on the state. I’d recommend starting by googling around, you’ll find plenty of stuff. Most of it wrong. It’s important to get it right before you pull a trigger and only do that when your life is in...

Unclear if the ex had been living there. Says she changed the locks. In NY and most states if someone moves in with you and establishes residency (in as little as two weeks in some jurisdictions; others may be a month) then you can’t just resort to self-help and kick or lock them out. You have...

Here's the actual regulation that reclassifies the listed stuff: http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2020/2020-05-01-x3/pdf/g2-154x3.pdf

I'm talking about the enacted budget (which passed), not the budget agreement. The legislature has already gone home. It's not impossible that it could still pass, but if the governor wanted this done he'd mention it, and it won't happen without him. If you have a friendly senator and...