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  1. subsonic

    New / updated 4473 on the way...

    I'd generally agree with you but on the other hand so long as FFL's are being sued and held responsible for putting guns in the wrong hands, an FFL should be free to make their own decision that they don't want to arm someone that comes across to them as severely mentally unbalanced. But now...
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    "Ghost guns" A-9903A amended ( merged with senate ghost gun thread)

    So there's a "good news" update on this. (Good news by New York standards.) This didn't make it into the budget, and the NY legislative session is now over. They slipped in a couple of gun-related measures relating to domestic violence that are unrelated to these measures and nothing to do with...
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    Rensselaer County Telling Cuomo How It Is

    Hate to break it to you folks but there is no "shelter in place" or "stay at home" order in New York. It just closes businesses and forbids gathering (but there's no penalty for individuals who gather). Really strange how you FUAC people want Cuomo to issue more and harsher decrees by fiat...
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    New / updated 4473 on the way...

    I don't know, FFL 4473 just seems like a really strange form of all of forms to start adding a checkbox for "can't decide on penis or vagina." I suppose a lot of folks put aspirational numbers down for height and weight. Is ATF going to amend the instructions for those to put whatever figure we...
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    "Ghost guns" A-9903A amended ( merged with senate ghost gun thread)

    So, the original bill I linked here that was in line with Cuomo's new year pronouncements is stuck in committee. That bill would have basically banned home gunsmithing entirely and required registration of any unserialized homemade guns and made 80% lowers illegal without grandfathering. It...
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    Hope VA doesn't become NY

    Fixed.
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    Traffic stop on State Route 17 in Bloomingburg leads to gun and drug arrest.

    Don't be fooled by the rocks that she got... Her name's actually Krystal. I shouldn't laugh... but I laughed. Might want to take scenic route on her next road trip to the Bronx.
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    Transferring old unserialized shotguns?

    No, private sale without an FFL is perfectly legal many/most places. Was legal for long guns in NY until FUAC's SAFE act, but federal law governs when it's sold between residents of different states. That's since the Brady bill went in effect in '94, and it's why private sellers at gun shows...
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    Transferring old unserialized shotguns?

    Only if you meet them at an FFL to do the transfer. It can be any FFL anywhere. If you are residents of different states a direct transfer is against federal law, doesn't matter if it's your own mother, if you're both living.
  10. subsonic

    Transferring old unserialized shotguns?

    You have to show an ID to buy from an FFL for the NICS check, but you don't in general have to be a resident to buy a shotgun or rifle from an FFL, so long as the shotgun or rifle is legal in your home state and your home state doesn't have a law prohibiting it. The FFL obviously isn't required...
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    VA Dems Drop AR Confiscation Bill

    No, no, no, no, no. They are dropping the original bill in favor of HB961, which prospectively bans the very same guns, while requiring current owners to REGISTER, be investigated, and flagged in law enforcement criminal databases. No new sales, builds, bringing in, or disposal in state is...
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    Transferring old unserialized shotguns?

    Doesn't have to be a neighboring state either, can be an FFL in any state, as long as the long gun is legal in the transferee's home state. Some FFLs will only deal with neighboring state residents, some specifically won't sell to New Yorkers because they don't want to deal with our stupid laws...
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    Franklin Armory Providence PCC?

    Word at the time was the bigger communist market they were going for was overseas, not NY/CA. I don't know why the ATF would summarily and arbitrarily deem these illegal given that is not happening with true semiautomatics in rifle chamberings. It's NY/CA etc. that I would expect to be going...
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    Franklin Armory Providence PCC?

    That's not exactly how open bolts work. Ignoring that the Uzi is a machinegun, it's a blowback operated, openbolt automatic. You cannot cycle an Uzi by repeatedly pulling the trigger, and it still uses energy from the fired cartridge to cycle. (blowback being defined as "obtains energy from the...
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    FFL's doing ATF 4473 wrong

    Does Walmart even do transfers? They are kind of fuddy. The LGS I went to right before I started building closed; they probably would have gotten it right. At least one of them had Anderson stripped lowers in inventory, maybe I'll buy one and see if they screw that one up too.
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    FFL's doing ATF 4473 wrong

    Out of a couple of FFL's who have transferred lowers to me, I don't think a single one has recorded the model correctly. They are putting "AR15" or such instead of the manufacturer-specific model name (which is clearly engraved on the lower), since these are not Colt lowers. I'm sure this is...
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    "Ghost guns" A-9903A amended ( merged with senate ghost gun thread)

    Register nothing. If you register 1000 "80% receivers" they just count you towards the success of this program. They don't know a I don’t want to get into the weeds about how to comply, I don’t want people to comply. There’s a “grace” period of something like six months in this law to get...
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    "Ghost guns" A-9903A amended ( merged with senate ghost gun thread)

    The press release has no legal force. The preamble has no legal force (although it could be referred to in interpreting the law's purpose). The bill (not yet a law) that I found would require serialization and registration of "unfinished firearm frames or receivers" or of unserialized guns made...
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    BCM mid length Mod 2

    This your first AR? I would think hard if you want to do that to it, if you've never shot fixed mag before. Putting a Thordsen on and pinning and welding a good thread cap would give you a featureless and much more usable rifle, and you could reverse it if you moved out of state (and add some...
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    "Ghost guns" A-9903A amended ( merged with senate ghost gun thread)

    Read the bill (painful I know). It adds this new registry to the pistol permit database: You need to finish it in PA or you're committing felony unlicensed gunsmithing under this new law. But it would appear you could stamp the number out of state and bring it back here without registering it...
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    "Ghost guns" A-9903A amended ( merged with senate ghost gun thread)

    They literally introduced a bill to put GPS trackers on them. That one won't pass, yet. But this one has violent maniac Kevin Parker's name and signature all over it and is likely to become law in some form.
  22. subsonic

    "Ghost guns" A-9903A amended ( merged with senate ghost gun thread)

    I'm not a lawyer, but I know that under federal law anyone can serialize their own firearms themselves. I'm not sure what federal law would apply for serializing some else's unserialized firearm. But, an 80% lower is not a firearm under federal law, so presumably anyone could serialize it before...
  23. subsonic

    "Ghost guns" A-9903A amended ( merged with senate ghost gun thread)

    NYC is an AIDS that infects anywhere within commuting distance.
  24. subsonic

    "Ghost guns" A-9903A amended ( merged with senate ghost gun thread)

    I was gonna say, seriously, where? This hasn't happened to me. Then again you live in NYC. Were you trying to buy in New Jersey? I can definitely see that happening, they're just about as bad as NYC, and NYC actually restricts ammunition to licensees. We don't have that upstate. I don't get...
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    "Ghost guns" A-9903A amended ( merged with senate ghost gun thread)

    I think patriotic store owners will happily sell parts including uppers, components, and 80%'s to all comers in a brick and mortar store. Just like they sell standard capacity magazines now, although they can't ship them here. New York can go fuck itself as far as imposing its law on other...
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    "Ghost guns" A-9903A amended ( merged with senate ghost gun thread)

    Who the hell knows. Appears it would be legal to possess but doing anything with it without a gunsmith license would clearly be a felony under this law. I think you could take it out of state, build it, and bring it back in though. You couldn't do that with anything unserialized. I think you...
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    "Ghost guns" A-9903A amended ( merged with senate ghost gun thread)

    The bill has this beaut in it: § 5. Section 265.10 of the penal law is amended by adding a new subdivision 8 to read as follows: 8. ANY PERSON OTHER THAN A GUNSMITH DULY LICENSED PURSUANT TO SECTION 400.00 OF THIS CHAPTER WHO ASSEMBLES, MANUFACTURES OR CAUSES TO BE ASSEMBLED OR...
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    "Ghost guns" A-9903A amended ( merged with senate ghost gun thread)

    Introduced January 2, this bill is the real deal. The governor is behind it now and unlike previous bills it would make owning "unfinished frames" or unserialized firearms (whether it's an AR-15 or a hardware store slamfire shotgun) a violent felony unless you had then serialized by a gunsmith...
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    Bradford County woman choked, threatened man with rifle on Christmas Eve

    https://www.northcentralpa.com/news/psp-bradford-county-woman-choked-threatened-man-with-rifle-on/article_8f775d1e-3007-11ea-9996-efb2cbdf4553.html Bradford County -- An Albany Township woman has been charged with simple assault and harassment for an alleged domestic incident on Christmas Eve...
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    Posing in Monsey with High cap mags and non compliant guns

    You're right on that. These laws are like russian nesting dolls. So that would be fine. I'm not the only one who's missed that I guess.
  31. subsonic

    Posing in Monsey with High cap mags and non compliant guns

    The "SAFE" act doesn't allow registered "assault weapons" to be loaded outside the home, so either the mag is locked or the gun's registered and unloaded (meaning they have no ammo in their gun or on their persons). Still, no way to tell just from the photo.
  32. subsonic

    Posing in Monsey with High cap mags and non compliant guns

    There's no state law restricting open carry of long guns in New York, but that's not to say it won't still get you stopped, questioned, and arrested in a lot of populated places, depending on what, when, how, and where you are carrying, hence "YMMV". Also who you are.
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    Posing in Monsey with High cap mags and non compliant guns

    There's no state law against open carry of long guns, friend. Those don't look like AR pistols to me. YMMV.
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    Posing in Monsey with High cap mags and non compliant guns

    Looks like a Hexmag and may well be riveted with the 10 round riser and spring in it. No need to jump to conclusions and judge based on appearances. Either way, good on folks protecting their communities.
  35. subsonic

    Franklin Armory Providence PCC?

    The ATF is saying that but as I understand they are putting a "pause" while they find a classification and update forms or guidance. If they thought they were illegal or nontransferrable they would not let people keep them. Anyway, that's a hypothetical possibility, although I don't see how a...
  36. subsonic

    Preferred MSR Caliber for Youth hunting?

    I agree with 1911guy and spat. If she's that sensitive to .410 recoil how sensitive will she be to wounding a deer with .223? There's time yet for her to hunt small game this year with .22LR and .410 and work her back up to larger caliber. She should be reasonably comfortable shooting paper...
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    Franklin Armory Providence PCC?

    Yeah, the Reformation was what I was talking about with their bellyflop last year. It was ... not very well received long before the ATF put the kibosh on transfers (for now at least), and I don't think they ever really delivered on their weird-ass finned ammo. But that just happened and the...
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    Franklin Armory Providence PCC?

    Google's a thing, friend.
  39. subsonic

    Franklin Armory Providence PCC?

    So they teased this prototype back in January at SHOT show and it was supposed to be out in October or by the end of the year and obviously it isn't. Haven't seen anything since the initial buzz. Anyone else heard any gossip or updated on it? Will we have a double-action carbine with all the...
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    Transferring old unserialized shotguns?

    Thanks! I think centerfire rifles, pistols, and NFA items had to have serials after 1934 and everything else after 1968, but I could be wrong. And serials obliterated after 1934 are always contraband and illegal, whether they were required or not when they were applied.
  41. subsonic

    Transferring old unserialized shotguns?

    I have a question about an old shotgun, it's a low-end pre-1968 (made in the '40s) shotgun that's unserialized (this model never was). I know I can be given it by a parent within New York without going through an FFL, but if it had to be transferred to someone else later how would that work? Can...
  42. subsonic

    Possible new AR for hunting... caliber?

    Derp. I was thinking 7.62x51 NATO rather than x39. Yeah that would be much iffier. Just built my first AR-10 in .308 and am looking forward to taking it on a hunt next year.
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    Should I get a Shockwave?

    Something like this to mount the light on the front: Mossberg Shockwave Flashlight Mount | GG&G Tactical Accessories I think that's the rail I got for the light. I'm not too happy with either the light or the laser I got so I am not going to name them. Of course Crimson Trace has a great...
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    Want to know why the NFA registry will never go away or be reopened?

    This is nonsense. The political power of a small constituency of NFA machinegun owners, most of whom are fanatical gun nuts who would love nothing more than to build, buy, and own new ones, isn't worth spit. How much money was in taxi medallions in NYC alone? They were worth billions of...
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    Intro and question...

    It is a "gray" area and there are good answers above, but the SAFE act only applies to operable firearms. A firearm can be legally considered operable if it is disassembled and all of the parts are available to assemble an operable firearm. Taking down an AR-15 with a pinned mag to replace the...
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    Possible new AR for hunting... caliber?

    What are all these downsides you are reading about? Presuming your barrel is actually .308 rated and you are shooting .308 hunting ammo.
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    Should I get a Shockwave?

    I paid too much for the Shockwave in 12 gauge when it was pretty new. Cute little gun. I do like the birds head grip better than pistol grip. That being said, truthfully, there are very few applications I would recommend it for, even as a trunk gun. The best thing it has going for it is the...
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    Wanted man was already in jail when agents raided his former home and shot woman inside

    The nephew, who was there and outside with others, has already stated that multiple uniformed and armed police in police cars swarmed the house and ordered them to put their hands up while they served the warrant. The police said they ordered her multiple times over seconds to drop her weapon...
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    Man shot while breaking into Genesee County home arrested upon release from hospital

    You're not wrong: Target load, never shoots the damn thing, shooting from the hip when it's needed. That's how you wound an intruder with a shotgun.
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    Wanted man was already in jail when agents raided his former home and shot woman inside

    If they were lawfully serving a lawful warrant, then they had a right to be there. Mistakes happen, and cops have immunity for a reason when they aren't acting outside the law. If a uniformed cop with a warrant is telling you to drop your weapon you should drop your weapon. The place to fight...
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