‘Justice’ bill would transfer up to 32 million acres to Black farmers

[SonOfSun]

This is a stupid idea. Farming at that scale isn't something you just pick up and do. It's a specialized industry that's way more complex than, "I'm gonna put shit in the ground and watch it grow". The whole race thing aside (which is bad in an of itself), most people would fail at running a farm.

 

[Saltwater60]

LOL. They make it sound like anyone can be a farmer with some land, a hoe and a few seeds in their pocket. How quaint.

It is damn near impossible for ANYONE to start farming for profit on your own. Maybe as recent as 75-100 years ago but not today. This is just more failed socialism.

There are bee farms that are popping up here and there but they are mostly small part time farms. I know of one new farmer that bought a farm recently that they could live off of. Others are just part timers.

I’d say the biggest deterrent to people starting a farm is the land cost. Now does that mean we should give anyone farm land for free? No. Not anyone unless there’s not enough farmers left to feed us. That’s not the case.

 

[Saltwater60]

This is a stupid idea. Farming at that scale isn't something you just pick up and do. It's a specialized industry that's way more complex than, "I'm gonna put shit in the ground and watch it grow". The whole race thing aside (which is bad in an of itself), most people would fail at running a farm.

Also where is the equipment coming from. There’s tons of money in equipment on a farm.

 

[Bigfoot]

- Free land (up to 160 acres) as long as you are black
- Guaranteed eligibility for a direct operating loan with deferred payments for 24 months and 0% interest for the first 7 years
- Guaranteed eligibility for a direct loan for the construction or improvement of a single family dwelling on the property
- Free learn how to be a farmer training

Below is the entire bill... Way TL;DR for me, probably you too.

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Cory Booker, the lead sponsor.
Also sponsoring the bill were Elizabeth Warren and Kirsten Gillibrand.

And they spew shit about white privilege... WTF

 

[Jmac00]

this is reparations using land, instead of money,

 

[CaseHardened]

Didn't they pull this shit in South Africa fairly recently?

Who are you ?

 

[spat]

this is reparations using land, instead of money,

See the loan section.

It's got money too.

What do you have to do to prove you're "black" ?

 

[CaseHardened]

See the loan section.

It's got money too.

What do you have to do to prove you're "black" ?

I'm buying some Orange Sneakers in the morning.

 

[Target]

What do you have to do to prove you're "black" ?

Betcha have to show ID to qualify.

 

[togmaster]

I can see it now...

 

[TEOTWAWKI inc.]

This is bull shit.

I looked into farm loans for a property and there is no way I could qualify, and it's probably a good thing because even if successful I would have lost money.

I am trying to find "hobby farm" type property now in TN that I can hopefully retire on one day.

 

[Catskillkid]

See the loan section.

It's got money too.

What do you have to do to prove you're "black" ?

I was thinking about this actually. Self-identifying as another race is a thing and if Elizabeth Warren can call herself Native American why can't a lilly white person claim they're black? Hell, even all the genealogy DNA tests say everyone is at least 1% African now so it wouldn't be lying.

 

[spat]

I was thinking about this actually. Self-identifying as another race is a thing and if Elizabeth Warren can call herself Native American why can't a lilly white person claim they're black? Hell, even all the genealogy DNA tests say everyone is at least 1% African now so it wouldn't be lying.

Worked for Rachel Dolezal.

They eventually called her out and made her stop, but there weren't any real consequences.

What are they going to do, reposses the farm ?

 

[masterswimmer]

From the article: Under the bill, up to 32 million acres would move to Black ownership over a decade — nearly seven times the 4.7 million acres now in Black farms. A new USDA agency, the Equitable Land Access Service, would administer the program. The USDA would buy land from willing sellers at fair market value for use in the program. Up to 20,000 grants of 160 acres would be made annually through 2030. Recipients would be new or experienced Black farmers. Beginning farmers would be required to complete a training program.

I suppose if the land is coming from a "willing seller" it's not as bad as land taken a gunpoint like it has been in many African nations (which by the way have been literally begging the white farmers to come back because of the starvation seen in those countries) but its still a stupid idea. I seriously doubt there are that many people (let along "black" people) who are that interested in real farming. Most people I know have this romantic notion of farming as plowing up an acre or two, throwing some seeds on the ground, and sitting on a rocking chair on the back porch watching it grow and then cashing in at the end of the summer. Anyone who has worked a real farm and tried to make a profit knows that ain't at all what it's like. Just another example of the social justice warrior bullshit permeating society and creating another do-nothing expensive program on the backs of tax payers.

For the record, in 2020, most white people I know wouldn't know what the hell to do with 40 acres and a mule. I seriously doubt that most blacks would be any better, even with training programs.

Whenever I hear the .gov wants to buy anything from 'willing sellers' and at fair market value, red flags start flying all over the place! I call bullshit on both willing and FMV. Someone's are getting screwed. Namely the US taxpayer.

 

[MothMan]

How long does corporate agriculture have to wait before buying failed farms for ‘s on the dollar?