1st and 2nd in trouble at the same time-YouTube

[Saltwater60]

YouTube to Censor Gun Conversion, Modification Videos - GunsAmerica Digest

Well guys and gals it looks like YouTube is screwing us. I have not looked, but I'm sure there are other dangerous videos on YouTube such as how to make meth and stuff like that. I'm not sure since I didn't look though.

To me this is scary. I suppose if your moderate you could make an argument about the bump stocks if they regulate them or ban them. If there is no regulations there is no reason to sensor them at all. The thing that scares me the most is gun sales and promotional videos will Be removed. That to me is straight up sensorship. I don't like it one bit.

To me this is google throwing around their clout again. Googles getting too powerful

 

[Devildog9999]

Not surprised one bit. The media, which includes Google is going to destroy the very foundation of the country I once knew. This is yet another chip taken from that foundation.

 

[togmaster]

Is it a violation of the first amendment? I don't think so because You Tube is a private company and entitled to their own opinion as we are. Do I agree? Hell no!

It looks like someone is going to have to come up with Gun Tube if it hasn't been done already.

 

[camper4lyfe]

What Tog said. This isn't a 1st amendment issue because it's a private company. You have no rights in that regard.

It's still dumb as hell and pisses me off.

 

[Catskillkid]

YouTube is a private company and can do as it wishes. However, when it effectively has a monopoly (what is the alternative to YouTube/Google) then it is severely limiting.

 

[wizrd]

Return to the old ways - hands on training and asking the smart guys. = I personally think the whole internet thing is just a passing fad that will go out of style eventually.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Proof that YouTube is run by jerkoffs.
home made pussy - YouTube

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Is it a violation of the first amendment? I don't think so because You Tube is a private company and entitled to their own opinion as we are. Do I agree? Hell no!

It looks like someone is going to have to come up with Gun Tube if it hasn't been done already.

Does the Constitution end at someone's door ? A business has total disregard for a person's rights? I guess someone could be fired for any reason but if it's because of a valid Constitutional reason, then I question that.

 

[camper4lyfe]

Does the Constitution end at someone's door ? A business has total disregard for a person's rights? I guess someone could be fired for any reason but if it's because of a valid Constitutional reason, then I question that.

The 1st, 2nd, and the rest of the constitution only protects you from governmental persecution. It does not protect you from private companies or public opinion.

 

[ManrisFrack]

Full30.com

 

[Steal2B]

News flash. Google (as well as Facebook) IS NOT A PRIVATE company. It is a publically held corporation answerable to their shareholders (including pension funds and mutual funds found in most IRAs), subject to full public disclosure, and answerable to the SEC. Since they do not have much of an EPS, their vulnerabilities are lawsuits, public relations, and vocal irate shareholders who can seriously hurt their artificially inflated stock price since there is really speculation with no solid earnings in their share pricing. I would imagine that their achilles heel could be an organized effort which got some traction that could easily cost them billions in share market value following a stock share drop, also tumbling the networth of their progressive leadership. Eliot Spitzer used to blackmail publically traded companies in to coughing up settlements and money with threats of this tactic.

 

[Defilade]

Full30.com

Yes this right here.....HAHA Youtube!

Full30.com: Firearms & Shooting Videos

 

[Burzum]

The problem is the bigotry against the 2nd Am., you can have all sorts of Lefty youtube posts, that is fine; the ethos of the intolerant Left on google, youtube, yahoo, is to be the thought police and social engineer us to the hinterlands.

What sucks is we do not have enough rich and intelligent people on our side to have our own, youtube, TV Network, search engines, etc...

 

[Jsmegs77]

Here’s an idea... Rather than watching, go out and do. Support small independent websites such as this one. Make the viewership die, and these companies who have no actual product other than your personal information and demographics die too. They are, at the core, advertising companies. Stop participating in their game on their terms. I realize this is easier said than done, but I’m making it a personal goal. Also, I’m in the process of scraping myself off google services and social media. They are not friends of liberty or conservatism in any sense.


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[GTN]

still there
bump stock - YouTube

 

[Saltwater60]

Is it a violation of the first amendment? I don't think so because You Tube is a private company and entitled to their own opinion as we are. Do I agree? Hell no!

It looks like someone is going to have to come up with Gun Tube if it hasn't been done already.

I never said it was a violation of the first amendment, but if you take away the platform of free speech that many are using I think the first amendment is in trouble.

 

[Saltwater60]

Does the Constitution end at someone's door ? A business has total disregard for a person's rights? I guess someone could be fired for any reason but if it's because of a valid Constitutional reason, then I question that.

I agree with you on this. If your not allowed to not sell your wedding cake to a gay person YouTube should not be allowed to sensor what's on their sight as long as it's legal. Double standard.

 

[togmaster]

I never said it was a violation of the first amendment, but if you take away the platform of free speech that many are using I think the first amendment is in trouble.

I agree it is an attempt to suppress free speech but you tube is a business and the owners can run it as they see fit. Computers and social media no matter how popular is not the end all. If you don't like it change the channel. That's why I'm here.

 

[Acer-m14]

and the cake baker thought the same ..

 

[Darth]

News flash. Google (as well as Facebook) IS NOT A PRIVATE company. It is a publically held corporation answerable to their shareholders (including pension funds and mutual funds found in most IRAs), subject to full public disclosure, and answerable to the SEC. Since they do not have much of an EPS, their vulnerabilities are lawsuits, public relations, and vocal irate shareholders who can seriously hurt their artificially inflated stock price since there is really speculation with no solid earnings in their share pricing. I would imagine that their achilles heel could be an organized effort which got some traction that could easily cost them billions in share market value following a stock share drop, also tumbling the networth of their progressive leadership. Eliot Spitzer used to blackmail publically traded companies in to coughing up settlements and money with threats of this tactic.

Publicly traded company != public entity.

It's still a private firm, as opposed to a government owned, public one.

 

[Steal2B]

Publicly traded company != public entity.

It's still a private firm, as opposed to a government owned, public one.

It is also still a publically owned company with accountabilities, responsibilities and vulnerabilities that a privately held company is not subject to. Believe it or not, in most cases a publically held company has more to answer for their actions than a public authority (floats bonds) or many goverment run functions (paid by taxes or fees but shielded from voters by the swamp or bureaucracy). The victim mindset that hints that only a goverment run company has to follow rules or is answerable is socialist propaganda. The free market has more accountability than something being government run, especially now a days.

 

[Darth]

It is also still a publically owned company with accountabilities, responsibilities and vulnerabilities that a privately held company is not subject to. Believe it or not, in most cases a publically held company has more to answer for their actions than a public authority (floats bonds) or many goverment run functions (paid by taxes or fees but shielded from voters by the swamp or bureaucracy). The victim mindset that hints that only a goverment run company has to follow rules or is answerable is socialist propaganda. The free market has more accountability than something being government run, especially now a days.

Wrong. Private companies have lots to answer to. Both from the government and the people. As do public entities.

It doesn't change the fact that YouTube is a private company. No matter who out has to answer to or how many shareholders it has. It's a private entity, and the 1A does not apply.

 

[Patriot]

Full30.com

Can’t believe I’m just learning about this. Thank you @ManrisFrack

 

[prambo]

Does the Constitution end at someone's door ? A business has total disregard for a person's rights? I guess someone could be fired for any reason but if it's because of a valid Constitutional reason, then I question that.

Unless you won't bake a cake for certain people, then your business is forfeit. It's been obvious for decades what is happening.

 

[Cooolone]

Omg, like YouTube is the only video hosting site? People need to grow the fuck up and stop bitching about everything anymore. Who gives a fuck, let big bad Google do what it wants, who cares. The information is out there, but omg it might now take a little effort to find.

Tell you what, you're better off... Soon it will be probable cause to search your residence because you watched or read about these abilities! And Google tracks everything! EVERYTHING! I don't even use google search anymore, duckduckgo is way to go, lol.

If you have a Google account, go in and take a look at your privacy settings and look at all the data that's they collect and store. To what purpose?

Ok, let me put my tinfoil hat back on now! Thanks for listening...

 

[Saltwater60]

Omg, like YouTube is the only video hosting site? People need to grow the fuck up and stop bitching about everything anymore. Who gives a fuck, let big bad Google do what it wants, who cares. The information is out there, but omg it might now take a little effort to find.

Tell you what, you're better off... Soon it will be probable cause to search your residence because you watched or read about these abilities! And Google tracks everything! EVERYTHING! I don't even use google search anymore, duckduckgo is way to go, lol.

If you have a Google account, go in and take a look at your privacy settings and look at all the data that's they collect and store. To what purpose?

Ok, let me put my tinfoil hat back on now! Thanks for listening...

It's not about finding the info or bitching about it. It's about good and bad exposure. Also the new generation looks to google as god. So if they say guns are bad they will believe it. Small battle victories win the war and that's how and why we're loosing in some regards.

 

[Cooolone]

It's not about finding the info or bitching about it. It's about good and bad exposure. Also the new generation looks to google as god. So if they say guns are bad they will believe it. Small battle victories win the war and that's how and why we're loosing in some regards.

What are we losing? I'm confused... You believe what you read online? Are you somehow dismissing the recent swing of States that have gone shall issue or even Constitutional carry and more?

Not losing a damned thing, although if you believe what you read online, there were 1700 mass shootings this year, that possessing a firearm is not a Constitutional Right, that if you support Trump you're a Nazi and White Privileged... Let's see, what else, oh yeah, that of we ban all firearms, for the children of course, all murders will cease!

Bottom line is if you rely on online resources, yes, you have issues. But the information is already out there and there's no way to out the horse back in the barn!