2018.3.5 Sen. Coons with Sen. Toomey announce The NICS Denial Notification Act

[livingston]

bipartisan team of senators introduced a proposal this week to alert state authorities every time a gun buyer fails a background check.

The NICS Denial Notification Act — sponsored by Pennsylvania Republican Sen. Pat Toomey and Delaware Democratic Sen. Chris Coons — creates an alert system in 37 states and Washington, D.C., where firearms dealers use the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System to verify a gun buyer’s identity and eligibility status.

Thirteen point-of-contact states already notify local authorities when a prohibited person “lies and tries” to buy a gun. Toomey said this bill will require the FBI to do the same in states without their own background check processing systems within 24 hours of each denial.

“Ensuring that state and local law enforcement have all of the necessary information about who in their communities is attempting to purchase firearms unlawfully is critical for public safety,” said Robin Lloyd, Director of Government Affairs at Giffords, in a statement. “The attempted purchase of firearms by a prohibited person is a potential violation of federal and state laws, and this bill will provide the information necessary for the enforcement of these laws.”

“When a domestic abuser or convicted felon tries to buy a gun and fails a background check, it’s a crime and a warning sign for law enforcement,” said John Feinblatt, president of Everytown, in a statement. “Under this bill, state law enforcement would be notified when a criminal tries to buy a gun, and given the information they need to help prevent the next crime from happening. We applaud Senators Toomey and Coons for introducing this bipartisan bill.”
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NICS Denial Notification Act introduced in Senate (VIDEO)

 

[livingston]

 

[Defilade]

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Imagine that!

 

[togmaster]

How could this possibly go wrong?

 

[camper4lyfe]

I'm honestly surprised this isn't standard procedure.

 

[Jmac00]

just another way to confiscate firearms:

TRUE STORY

In 2011 I bought a Ruger 22/45 Mk II, the dealer called the NICS system, gave them the usual info and it came back DENIED ???? I was panicked for a few minutes, I said " I have had my permit for 20 years? how could I be denied? The dealer held up his hand and said "relax, let's give it 5 minutes" He called back 5 minutes and sure enough PASS! good-to-go

so what happens now when a false negative comes back. You get reported and your guns are gone?

 

[Cattafly]

just another way to confiscate firearms:

TRUE STORY

In 2011 I bought a Ruger 22/45 Mk II, the dealer called the NICS system, gave them the usual info and it came back DENIED ???? I was panicked for a few minutes, I said " I have had my permit for 20 years? how could I be denied? The dealer held up his hand and said "relax, let's give it 5 minutes" He called back 5 minutes and sure enough PASS! good-to-go

so what happens now when a false negative comes back. You get reported and your guns are gone?

I don't think it came back as denied. It was most likely delayed and needed more time for research. It happens all the time and can take a few minutes or a few days to get the OK. I never heard of NICS changing a denied to a proceed.

 

[Jmac00]

I don't think it came back as denied. It was most likely delayed and needed more time for research. It happens all the time and can take a few minutes or a few days to get the OK. I never heard of NICS changing a denied to a proceed.

Im pretty sure he said denied? thats what put me in a panic. I figured, somehow I got put on a no-fly list

 

[Robin]

I had one that was never addressed, the gun shop told me to come back in a couple days, still no answer. They told me after a certain amount of time, if NICS doesn't provide an answer positive or negative, the sale goes through, and it did. That was my first time with the NICS system, yeah it had been a while since I had purchased a gun.
I can see a lot of law suits with this idea, people get denied for many reasons that have nothing to do with their background, and then to get tarred with that stigma(?), and possible legal troubles to boot(?), yeah, I can see a lot of law suits with this one.
Robin

 

[@thewheels]

Law enforcement and FBI botch things to hell?

Coomey & Toons will write a bill to fix it. Queue up the Benny Hill music.

 

[livingston]

How many folks in this country have their identity stolen ? That could cause a world of hurt when they come after you because someone committed a crime ... And you have no idea ... Then they want to put you in jail for false statements ... Haul away all your guns ... Some folks take years to clear this stuff up.

 

[Doc8404]

Comrades - what about new policy make you so nervous? It be for the childrens. Good things coming.

 

[Phazer]

I figured, somehow I got put on a no-fly list

If you have a pistol permit, eventually the Liberal Statist Leftists will put us all on a no-fly list. Which is ironic...since we're the citizens who have had the most stringent background checks. Heck...a pistol permit should actually allow someone immediate access the the "fast" TSA Pre lanes at airports. After all, we were fingerprinted for our permits and had numerous NICS checks. Nobody had that to get their drivers' license.

 

[libertysnake]

Wow, I mean... there are reasons why someone might fail a background check that are totally normal. IE, someone fat fingered information when typing it in or something.

But I bet once you fail a background check, even if you pass the one right after, the state will come and take things away -- and they'll be a very long petitioning process to get it back.... that'll take 20 years and effectively just wind up disarming people.

 

[libertysnake]

Also, has anyone ACTUALLY seen Michael Horowitz and Danny Huston in the same room at the same time? I'm getting suspicious.