24hr QT for 3 weeks for San Fran

[Saltwater60]

San Francisco Going on 24-Hour Lockdown for 3 Weeks

San Francisco is going the way of Italy with its coronavirus safety measures -- the Mayor's instituting around-the-clock curfew, banning almost everyone from leaving their homes.

amp.tmz.com

It’s coming here by the way.

 

[GOYABEAN]

San Francisco Going on 24-Hour Lockdown for 3 Weeks

San Francisco is going the way of Italy with its coronavirus safety measures -- the Mayor's instituting around-the-clock curfew, banning almost everyone from leaving their homes.

amp.tmz.com

It’s coming here by the way.

 

[Deplorable Me]

So people will stop crapping on the sidewalks?

 

[Saltwater60]

So people will stop capping on the sidewalks?

They live and shit on the sidewalk so no. That is there QT

 

[Sneezy]

The answer is fuck you, I'm not obeying.

 

[Blimey]

The answer is fuck you, I'm not obeying.

I would bet good money there are people currently 6' under in Italy who had the same opinion of their government lockdown.

 

[Paxal]

The answer is fuck you, I'm not obeying.

The time for this sort of cavalier attitude is long past. It is obvious now that we need to take community-wide action to try to stem the tide of this thing. But, I do wonder what they will do with all the homeless that are out on the streets in SF. What will they do with them?

 

[GOPerfect]

I am curious how this will be maintained?

Coppers? Military?

Where are the dirty homeless to go?

Who determines what job is essential?

This has gone full retatd.

When all this is over, I will share some of the major changes that are happening behind the scenes in Erie county.

 

[@thewheels]

The time for this sort of cavalier attitude is long past. It is obvious now that we need to take community-wide action to try to stem the tide of this thing. But, I do wonder what they will do with all the homeless that are out on the streets in SF. What will they do with them?

Flatten the curve and deal with this for the foreseeable future or crush the curve and get it over with in a few months.
The longer this stretches on the more cries for government help, subsidies, intervention, control and takeover there will be.

Shit markets + Pandemic + indoctrinated generations = Perfect Storm

 

[Tinman]

Keep us advised GoPerfect. We appreciate it.

 

[Sneezy]

The time for this sort of cavalier attitude is long past. It is obvious now that we need to take community-wide action to try to stem the tide of this thing. But, I do wonder what they will do with all the homeless that are out on the streets in SF. What will they do with them?

Like the flu, Covid 19 affects those who are already compromised.

I will keep my cavalier attitude thanks. I already practice hygiene skills. I don't go out and spread my germs if I'm sick. Forcing the general public to stay home and nothing is a farce. This is just the government having more control over us.

The flu has affected 39 million people this season and hit a top rate of 7.1%. 7.3% is when it's called an epidemic. 22K people have died this season from the flu. I don't see anyone running around and panicking.

 

[GOPerfect]

Like the flu, Covid 19 affects those who are already compromised.

I will keep my cavalier attitude thanks. I already practice hygiene skills. I don't go out and spread my germs if I'm sick. Forcing the general public to stay home and nothing is a farce. This is just the government having more control over us.

The flu has affected 39 million people this season and hit a top rate of 7.1%. 7.3% is when it's called an epidemic. 22K people have died this season from the flu. I don't see anyone running around and panicking.

I am sure you understand some of the biggest differences between the Flu and Covid 19?

 

[Sneezy]

I am sure you understand some of the biggest differences between the Flu and Covid 19?

I do but I'm not going to panic. I don't trust the government to keep me safe.

Overall, per the CDC, the death rate of those who have been infected with the flu this flu season is 0.05%. According to the research conducted by the Chinese CDC, the case-fatality rate of novel coronavirus in China is 2.3%.

That's still a very low number.

 

[Blimey]

Like the flu, Covid 19 affects those who are already compromised.

Tell that to my neighbor who just spent three days watching her four year old, perfectly healthy son in the hospital because of the flu last month.

In any case, it's not like people with preexisting conditions, of which this country is full, somehow deserve to die because of this virus, and healthy or not, symptomatic or not, you can give it to others.

 

[Cavalry]

The flu has affected 39 million people this season and hit a top rate of 7.1%. 7.3% is when it's called an epidemic. 22K people have died this season from the flu. I don't see anyone running around and panicking.

And how many of the seasonal flu deaths and severe sickness were actually covid19 because it was never tested for?

 

[Blimey]

I do but I'm not going to panic. I don't trust the government to keep me safe.

Overall, per the CDC, the death rate of those who have been infected with the flu this flu season is 0.05%. According to the research conducted by the Chinese CDC, the case-fatality rate of novel coronavirus in China is 2.3%.

That's still a very low number.

The commies can't be trusted. They lie.

CNN had an article last night or yesterday comparing fatality rate. It's .6% in SK so far from this, and 6% in italy.

 

[repete]

So everyone has to stay at home except to go to the store or Dr, who runs the store? Where do you get a Rx filled, speaking of filled where do you get gas? Is anyone going to be out and about to fix power outages? Phones, internet? Can we rely on the local authorities to maintain a minimum of safety? I know the answers as well as you do and knowing that I will not hang out here for long!

 

[GOPerfect]

I do but I'm not going to panic. I don't trust the government to keep me safe.

Overall, per the CDC, the death rate of those who have been infected with the flu this flu season is 0.05%. According to the research conducted by the Chinese CDC, the case-fatality rate of novel coronavirus in China is 2.3%.

That's still a very low number.

My "panic" is due to asshole people and my current employment.

 

[@thewheels]

I do but I'm not going to panic. I don't trust the government to keep me safe.

Overall, per the CDC, the death rate of those who have been infected with the flu this flu season is 0.05%. According to the research conducted by the Chinese CDC, the case-fatality rate of novel coronavirus in China is 2.3%.

That's still a very low number.

Nobody is saying to panic.

 

[Blimey]

So everyone has to stay at home except to go to the store or Dr, who runs the store? Where do you get a Rx filled, speaking of filled where do you get gas? Is anyone going to be out and about to fix power outages? Phones, internet? Can we rely on the local authorities to maintain a minimum of safety? I know the answers as well as you do and knowing that I will not hang out here for long!

I think we can. Police are going to be bored next two weeks. Won't be dealing with bar fights or speeders, though probably a lot of domestic violence calls.

I think we can rely on utilities because the people who work there know the importance of their jobs.

 

[@thewheels]

I think we can. Police are going to be bored next two weeks. Won't be dealing with bar fights or speeders, though probably a lot of domestic violence calls.

I think we can rely on utilities because the people who work there know the importance of their jobs.

IF a LEO needs to get hands on with a rowdy homeless guy that turns out to be asymptomatic and does his day to day with his LE coworkers for 3 days before finding out the homeless dude was sick, how many LEO will need to quarantine? And how long before the shitweasels of society take advantage of 1/3 of the PD missing for a few weeks?

Utilities could fall to the hands of interns and secretaries if the older experience gets a hot spot.

 

[Paxal]

Flatten the curve and deal with this for the foreseeable future or crush the curve and get it over with in a few months.
The longer this stretches on the more cries for government help, subsidies, intervention, control and takeover there will be.

Shit markets + Pandemic + indoctrinated generations = Perfect Storm

You have a point, but, that also entails letting a lot of people go...which isn’t a totally bad thing. We will have to stay on top of this and see how it plays out.

 

[Saltwater60]

I do but I'm not going to panic. I don't trust the government to keep me safe.

Overall, per the CDC, the death rate of those who have been infected with the flu this flu season is 0.05%. According to the research conducted by the Chinese CDC, the case-fatality rate of novel coronavirus in China is 2.3%.

That's still a very low number.

So the issue is the corona virus Is it’s much more contagious, puts a much higher percentage of people in the hospital and kills a much higher percentage of people. The flu kills 0.05% this season and the corona virus was killing about 2% of people. That’s 40 times more dead so your figures on the seasonal flu reenforce why we should be scared to death.
Here’s an article that sums it up well.

Why Covid-19 is worse than the flu, in one chart

It’s more contagious, more deadly (particularly for older people), and it has a greater potential to overwhelm our health care system.

www.google.com

 

[BDinPutnam]

The time for this sort of cavalier attitude is long past. It is obvious now that we need to take community-wide action to try to stem the tide of this thing. But, I do wonder what they will do with all the homeless that are out on the streets in SF. What will they do with them?

Back hoe and bulldozer.

 

[spat]

So the issue is the corona virus Is it’s much more contagious, puts a much higher percentage of people in the hospital and kills a much higher percentage of people. The flu kills 0.05% this season and the corona virus was killing about 2% of people. That’s 40 times more dead so your figures on the seasonal flu reenforce why we should be scared to death.
Here’s an article that sums it up well.

Why Covid-19 is worse than the flu, in one chart

It’s more contagious, more deadly (particularly for older people), and it has a greater potential to overwhelm our health care system.

www.google.com

The flu fatality rate is based on estimated cases, the corona rate is based on confirmed cases.

That's apple's and oranges for a comparison.

Their superior testing is why the SK rate is so much better. Not because they saved a lot of people, but because they put a lot more survivors into the "confirmed" bucket from the "suspected" bucket.

Imagine how dire the rate would look if they only tested people once they hit the ICU ?

Imagine how much better it would look if everyone who got a mild case and recovered at home was tested ?

 

[Saltwater60]

The flu fatality rate is based on estimated cases, the corona rate is based on confirmed cases.

That's apple's and oranges for a comparison.

Their superior testing is why the SK rate is so much better. Not because they saved a lot of people, but because they put a lot more survivors into the "confirmed" bucket from the "suspected" bucket.

Imagine how dire the rate would look if they only tested people once they hit the ICU ?

Imagine how much better it would look if everyone who got a mild case and recovered at home was tested ?

Sure the numbers are estimated but they are both estimates. You can get tested for the flu and a lot of people do get tested for the regular flu now and they hand out tamiflu like candy now.

 

[spat]

Sure the numbers are estimated but they are both estimates. You can get tested for the flu and a lot of people do get tested for the regular flu now and they hand out tamiflu like candy now.

I'm just saying that people are comparing the fatality rate of the flu based on estimated cases to the fatality rate from covid based on confirmed cases and you can't do that.

There aren't good numbers available for estimated covid cases, but you can get numbers for confirmed flu. If you compare the fatality rate of confirmed flu cases to confirmed covid cases covid looks a lot less scary.

Places with more widespread testing like South Korea show a much lower fatality rate than people are quoting. That's because the places that only test people that are admitted to a hospital are going to have a much higher fatality rate since they aren't counting all the people who just stay home and get over it on their own.

 

[Saltwater60]

I'm just saying that people are comparing the fatality rate of the flu based on estimated cases to the fatality rate from covid based on confirmed cases and you can't do that.

There aren't good numbers available for estimated covid cases, but you can get numbers for confirmed flu. If you compare the fatality rate of confirmed flu cases to confirmed covid cases covid looks a lot less scary.

Places with more widespread testing like South Korea show a much lower fatality rate than people are quoting. That's because the places that only test people that are admitted to a hospital are going to have a much higher fatality rate since they aren't counting all the people who just stay home and get over it on their own.

If that’s true I’ll bet you’re right. Not saying the info you provided here is wrong but I just did t research it. I guess time will tell.