51% of Americans think Trump constitution comment should disqualify him from a presidential run

[SonOfSun]

And *that's* TDS.

"I lost 16% of my retirement money, but it's really a good thing because if it wasn't it would make Trump look good..."

That's completely not what I said. Go back and read it again. I don't care if it makes Trump look good or bad.

I think you have TDS-attachment. As in if someone disagrees with you or the Rs it's because they hate Trump, as if it just couldn't possibly be something else....

I say: I like prices lower because my dollar buys more shares, and since I have a long time until retirement I don't mind the market being down because that's good for me long term to be able to buy low and hold for 20+ years.

You interpret that as I like low stock prices because Trump would look good if they were high. My post literally didn't even have the word "Trump" in it .

My post was my feeling on it, which is entirely based in self interest, Trump has nothing to do with it.

 

[SonOfSun]

@SonOfSun how can you vote for this guy.. Biden ??

"Joe Biden has taken on the National Rifle Association (NRA) on the national stage and won – twice. In 1993, he shepherded through Congress the Brady Handgun ..."

so Trump fucked up a bit and ran his lips .. ohhh bump stocks .. fkin really

I don't decide my vote based on just guns. I 100% disagree with Biden on guns.

 

[SonOfSun]

LOL you're assuming we will still have a country, let alone an economy in 20 years

Yes, I am assuming that, that's sort of a prerequisite for relevancy. If you don't assume that then none of this matters anyways no matter what your values/morals/beliefs are. If it doesn't matter then why even talk about it?

 

[SonOfSun]

Glad I'm only seeing one side of this conversation.

Why even comment on a conversation you can't read? Did you drink too much bleach today?

 

[Grimscale]

Unfortunately I think he's so damn wacked out that he can't possibly be as much a moron as he portrays.

Sure he can. Just wait.

I believe he's a troll.

that does not negate your previous comment, however.

Nobody can be that comatose and still type.

We have a resident in Washington that is that comatose and not only types, but signs unconstitutional laws and executive orders, eats ice cream, and fondles and sniffs little kids.
I'm sure just putting some lefty talking points in a thread is easy by comparison.

LOL you're assuming we will still have a country, let alone an economy in 20 years

This the part that I don't get.
I learned that it is good to "buy the dip".
What if the dip never stops?
What happens when the economy crashes so bad that the dollar becomes worth less than the ink it's printed with?

I already feel like I will not be able to retire. Between getting into a 401k late in life and knowing all the money that was taken from me for social security will only go to others, with nothing left for me when it is "my turn", I already expected to work til I drop.

The fact that a person would willingly want to see the Country turn into another Cuba, or North Korea, just because someone said something he/she/it didn't like is beyond laughable. It's pathological.

 

[spat]

That's completely not what I said. Go back and read it again. I don't care if it makes Trump look good or bad.

I think you have TDS-attachment. As in if someone disagrees with you or the Rs it's because they hate Trump, as if it just couldn't possibly be something else....

I say: I like prices lower because my dollar buys more shares, and since I have a long time until retirement I don't mind the market being down because that's good for me long term to be able to buy low and hold for 20+ years.

You interpret that as I like low stock prices because Trump would look good if they were high. My post literally didn't even have the word "Trump" in it .

My post was my feeling on it, which is entirely based in self interest, Trump has nothing to do with it.

Unless you are at the very beginning of your investment journey, or you are dumping a massive amount of cash into the market today, the money you lost will hurt you more than any temporary discount you are getting can possibly counter.

That's what makes it TDS. You loon at something that will hurt you, but you can't admit it hurts you because the Trump tax cut *must* be the worst thing ever for you. 10% inflation, a crashing stock market, out of control southern border, 10% for the big guy, none of it can possibly be worse in your mind.

Biden could drag us into a full scale nuclear war with Russia and you'd *still* be saying "Trump was worse".

 

[SonOfSun]

Unless you are at the very beginning of your investment journey, or you are dumping a massive amount of cash into the market today, the money you lost will hurt you more than any temporary discount you are getting can possibly counter.

That's what makes it TDS. You loon at something that will hurt you, but you can't admit it hurts you because the Trump tax cut *must* be the worst thing ever for you. 10% inflation, a crashing stock market, out of control southern border, 10% for the big guy, none of it can possibly be worse in your mind.

Biden could drag us into a full scale nuclear war with Russia and you'd *still* be saying "Trump was worse".

I am at the beginning relatively speaking. Retirement is actually ~26 years away for me.

Again this has nothing to do with Trump. If he never was president I'd feel the same way about this. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand. For me a low stock market is good. I want a low stock market for my own personal benefit - it's really that simple.

 

[SonOfSun]

Same here Dr. I haven't seen one post from the brain dead in about a year. Maybe more. Been a pleasure.
Unfortunately I think he's so damn wacked out that he can't possibly be as much a moron as he portrays. I believe he's a troll. Nobody can be that comatose and still type.

Saca el pene de tu recto.

 

[SonOfSun]

What if the dip never stops?
What happens when the economy crashes so bad that the dollar becomes worth less than the ink it's printed with?

If that's how you feel about it why even worry? If you're so convinced of this event then nothing discussed in this thread even matters, just move on and call yourself a winner.

 

[spat]

I am at the beginning relatively speaking. Retirement is actually ~26 years away for me.

Again this has nothing to do with Trump. If he never was president I'd feel the same way about this. I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand. For me a low stock market is good. I want a low stock market for my own personal benefit - it's really that simple.

If you are truly at a point where you have purchased more stock under Biden than you had in your portfolio coming in to his catastrophe, then yes, it will benefit you.

Much like the market crash of 1929 would benefit someone who found bags of cash in 1930 and decided to invest them.

But that cannot possibly be used to justify the notion that it was a "good thing".

 

[Dr. Evil]

If you are truly at a point where you have purchased more stock under Biden than you had in your portfolio coming in to his catastrophe, then yes, it will benefit you.

Much like the market crash of 1929 would benefit someone who found bags of cash in 1930 and decided to invest them.

But that cannot possibly be used to justify the notion that it was a "good thing".

So he is profiting at the expense of America going down the toilet. Sounds like some others I know of.

 

[fresch]

Carpet bagger.

 

[SonOfSun]

If you are truly at a point where you have purchased more stock under Biden than you had in your portfolio coming in to his catastrophe, then yes, it will benefit you.

Much like the market crash of 1929 would benefit someone who found bags of cash in 1930 and decided to invest them.

But that cannot possibly be used to justify the notion that it was a "good thing".

Nowhere did I say it was good for everybody. I said it was good for me (and probably others in my position if they plan on buying in as things go down as well). Several posts ago in our back and forth I explained that my feeling on it is entirely in self interest.

I've said many times on here that you should vote your interests. If Trump is good for you I'd encourage you to vote for him. I want for my interests, not your interests. You should want for your interests without consideration of mine.

 

[spat]

Nowhere did I say it was good for everybody. I said it was good for me (and probably others in my position if they plan on buying in as things go down as well). Several posts ago in our back and forth I explained that my feeling on it is entirely in self interest.

I've said many times on here that you should vote your interests. If Trump is good for you I'd encourage you to vote for him. I want for my interests, not your interests. You should want for your interests without consideration of mine.

I think you are looking at your interests in a very short sighted way.

Will you vote Trump in 2024 if he's on the ballot ?

It would certainly be good for you for all that retirement investment you got a discount on to skyrocket then wouldn't it ?

And 10% inflation is not good for anybody but the chi-coms.

 

[fresch]

Check out the jimmy carter era for investment advice.

 

[SonOfSun]

I think you are looking at your interests in a very short sighted wag.

Will you vote Trump in 2024 if he's on the ballot ?

Obviously I don't like Trump for his tax bill and how it impacted me, but there are other things too. Set aside your own personal beliefs on it to understand my position: I honestly feel Trump had a lot to with the Jan 6 events. When looking at the recorded video, etc. I feel he riled up and encouraged the activities of that day. The tax thing is my "personal interests" feeling against him, however instigating an attack against the structure of the republic itself is a non-starter (and being against that is personal interest as well).

By the way, there were some Trump policies I liked and areas I thought he did well. Overall I thought he did well with foreign policy, minus his handling of Syria, but as a whole he did a good job. I agree the southern border is an issue with illegal immigration, I just 100% disagreed with his wall solution. He was definitely better on guns than Biden, though I have criticism of his bump stock ban, still relatively speaking he was way better here than Biden.

However when you vote for a candidate you get the whole package and I look at everything in weighted sum. I want the republic to stand, that's in my interest. If it falls, none of any of this matters. I can't vote for someone who I believe encouraged and emboldened people to attack it.

So would I vote for Trump - No, but I'd absolutely consider voting for a Republican, as long as they weren't in support of the Jan 6 events. Hell, if the Rs field an even moderately competent candidate I can't see Biden winning, and I wouldn't vote for Biden in that case. For some reason they keep picking idiots like Herschel Walker. I don't fucking get it, victory keeps knocking on their door and they actively do everything they can to sabotage their chances of winning.

It would certainly be good for you for all that retirement investment you got a discount on to skyrocket then wouldn't it ?

Depends when it happens and my balance at the time. There is an inversion point on that time plot when you have a certain amount of money that gains from lower prices don't make up for losses of your accumulated balance, working within expected contributions and growth rates, etc.

I'm not there yet so for now lower prices are better for me.

And 10% inflation is not good for anybody but the chi-coms.

I don't think it's good for them either. That being said there are lots of reasons inflation is what it is. Part of it is Biden's handling. The other part is how much money both Biden and Trump spent on covid, interruptions of international product trade & shipping, lockdowns and the fallout from them both here and abroad, etc. The inflation we have has many drivers. I can't pin it all on Biden (or Trump for his part either). I will say that the part Biden has any influence on I don't think he's done a good job. According to data inflation is around 8% not 10%. United States Inflation Rate - November 2022 Data - 1914-2021 Historical If Biden did a better job inflation might be ~6% instead of ~8%. So he gets blame for his part of it but not all of it.

 

[SonOfSun]

Guessing this guy is in that 51%

 

[spat]

Obviously I don't like Trump for his tax bill and how it impacted me, but there are other things too. Set aside your own personal beliefs on it to understand my position: I honestly feel Trump had a lot to with the Jan 6 events. When looking at the recorded video, etc. I feel he riled up and encouraged the activities of that day. The tax thing is my "personal interests" feeling against him, however instigating an attack against the structure of the republic itself is a non-starter (and being against that is personal interest as well).

By the way, there were some Trump policies I liked and areas I thought he did well. Overall I thought he did well with foreign policy, minus his handling of Syria, but as a whole he did a good job. I agree the southern border is an issue with illegal immigration, I just 100% disagreed with his wall solution. He was definitely better on guns than Biden, though I have criticism of his bump stock ban, still relatively speaking he was way better here than Biden.

However when you vote for a candidate you get the whole package and I look at everything in weighted sum. I want the republic to stand, that's in my interest. If it falls, none of any of this matters. I can't vote for someone who I believe encouraged and emboldened people to attack it.

So would I vote for Trump - No, but I'd absolutely consider voting for a Republican, as long as they weren't in support of the Jan 6 events. Hell, if the Rs field an even moderately competent candidate I can't see Biden winning, and I wouldn't vote for Biden in that case. For some reason they keep picking idiots like Herschel Walker. I don't fucking get it, victory keeps knocking on their door and they actively do everything they can to sabotage their chances of winning.




Depends when it happens and my balance at the time. There is an inversion point on that time plot when you have a certain amount of money that gains from lower prices don't make up for losses of your accumulated balance, working within expected contributions and growth rates, etc.

I'm not there yet so for now lower prices are better for me.




I don't think it's good for them either. That being said there are lots of reasons inflation is what it is. Part of it is Biden's handling. The other part is how much money both Biden and Trump spent on covid, interruptions of international product trade & shipping, lockdowns and the fallout from them both here and abroad, etc. The inflation we have has many drivers. I can't pin it all on Biden (or Trump for his part either). I will say that the part Biden has any influence on I don't think he's done a good job. According to data inflation is around 8% not 10%. United States Inflation Rate - November 2022 Data - 1914-2021 Historical If Biden did a better job inflation might be ~6% instead of ~8%. So he gets blame for his part of it but not all of it.

Those are mostly reasonable opinions, except Jan 6th.

It was obviously an absolute nothing burger completely blown out of proportion for political advantage.

Nothing Trump said comes anywhere near the rhetoric the left had been pushing for years, rhetoric that led directly to burning down cities, not to a couple broken windows and a displaced podium LOL.

You want to indict every politician that says "we need to fight" ? We would probably be better off with the lot of them at the bottom of the sea, but that doesn't mean it's a reasonable position.

And most of what he was saying about the deep state and the election being stolen has turned out to be a lot more accurate than not I light of all that has been released since the election.

There is no longer any question that the 2020 election was conducted in direct violation to the law in some of the key states. Most of the vote by mail shenanigans require the legislature to approve, regardless of how much of an "emergency" the governor thinks is going on.

The scale of the deep state involvement in Twitter that has been exposer exceeds even my worst fears. It's a fair assumption that is more the rule than the exception with social and main stream media.

Certainly without those two highly illegal types of interference Trump would have won handily, even assuming there wasn't any direct fraud.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I admire your tenacity @spat but I question your sanity continuing to go back and forth with son of a... never mind.

 

[masterswimmer]

I admire your tenacity @spat but I question your sanity continuing to go back and forth with son of a... never mind.

Totally, 100% agree.

Remember the definition of insanity. The results have been consistently the same since day one. Ain't changing the closed minded lemmings views. Hence my iggy list.

 

[SonOfSun]

When you have nothing you attack the person and not the ideas. Please, do keep being an insignificant bankrupt bitch.

I admire your tenacity @spat but I question your sanity continuing to go back and forth with son of a... never mind.

 

[Grimscale]

So a certain somebody complains about people attacking the person and not the ideas, then proceeds to attack the person and not the ideas.

Such a disappointment.

 

[SonOfSun]

So a certain somebody complains about people attacking the person and not the ideas, then proceeds to attack the person and not the ideas.

Such a disappointment.

Not fiscally bankrupt. Argument bankrupt. That IS a criticism of his behavior. All he does is talk shit about how he doesn't like me and say stupid Trump style "sonof". .... balh blah blah name stuff. He never refutes anything.

If every time you posted something I only said stuff like "Grimscale was dropped too much as a kid" and never addressed what you actually said you'd be fair in calling that out. Just throwing out random insults doesn't really add anything of value to a conversation.

 

[Saltwater60]

The point of this post wasn’t to argue between ourselves but to show that Trump may not be a good candidate for 2024 and he is likely not a winner. I’m sure some disagree with me there as well.

 

[SonOfSun]

Those are mostly reasonable opinions, except Jan 6th.

It was obviously an absolute nothing burger completely blown out of proportion for political advantage..

Nah...

Trump referred to DOJ for criminal prosecution by January 6 Committee

The House Select Committee to Investigate January 6 announced it is referring Trump to DOJ, recommending the former president be criminally prosecuted over his role in the Capitol riot.

www.foxnews.com

 

[GOPerfect]

Nah...

Trump referred to DOJ for criminal prosecution by January 6 Committee

The House Select Committee to Investigate January 6 announced it is referring Trump to DOJ, recommending the former president be criminally prosecuted over his role in the Capitol riot.

www.foxnews.com

The DOJ is going to absolutely nothing with this sham referral nor are they paying any attention at all to these Bullshit hearings.

The MSM and the haters, those with TDS, are the only ones paying attention to these hearings. Hearings that are filled with lies and misdirection.

Anyone with a working brain knows and understands the lies.

 

[spat]

Nah...

Trump referred to DOJ for criminal prosecution by January 6 Committee

The House Select Committee to Investigate January 6 announced it is referring Trump to DOJ, recommending the former president be criminally prosecuted over his role in the Capitol riot.

www.foxnews.com

What do you think an insurrection is ?

Let's pretend for a minute that the protestors *were* trying to install Trump as POTUS.

On Jan 6th and for a a couple more weeks, he already *was* POTUS.

So, you claiming the most heavily armed people on the planet decided to stage a coup in the nation's capital, and they came unarmed with the intention of replacing the head of state with.... the current head of state ?


The fact of the matter is that it's logically impossible for there to be an insurrection supporting Donald Trump at any time before Jan 20th, and none of the demands the Jan 6th protestors had could possibly qualify.

Even if they had straight up murdered Biden, Harris, and Pence it still wouldn't have been an insurrection, and still wouldn't have resulted in Trump being POTUS on Jan 21st (it would have fallen to Pelosi then AFAIK)

Just like if the DC rioters in 2016 had killed Trump and Pence, we wouldn't have gotten more Obama.