9mm Carry Ammo

[lrick]

The problem is thinking just because it looked cool in MACs video doesn't mean it's good ammo.

If I remember correctly he shot clay with it behind the body armor. Or was it a dummy made out of gel?? If it was the latter then I bet it wasn't calibrated gel and it sure wasn't 12-18" of gel.

So oh cool him shooting gimmick crap ammo on camera looks cool and devastating and useful.. when in reality it is complete garbage and people need to stop acting like it's anything cool or has any viable use in the real world

Oh I agree. I wouldn't use it, I was just surprised it got through the armor. Also, it was just the plate, not the whole carrier and additional clothing layers. The 7.62x25 Bulgarian surplus he shot was way more effective, but again, the application is very narrow.

There is no substitute for well rounded, proven ammo and training.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Oh I agree. I wouldn't use it, I was just surprised it got through the armor. Also, it was just the plate, not the whole carrier and additional clothing layers. The 7.62x25 Bulgarian surplus he shot was way more effective, but again, the application is very narrow.

There is no substitute for well rounded, proven ammo and training.

Yup and unfortunately people see this and don't understand how ballistics or ammo works. So they will think man I need this ammo.

Look ill be the first to admit thos 50grain shit was some of my first carry ammo.. actually Hornaday personal defense was my first carry ammo then I got this stuff because of macs video. Then thank God I replaced it almost immediately after doing some research

 

[fresch]

I tell the wife shoot at the balls and keep pulling the trigger, reload if needed.
I figured one of the 3 shots will hit.
She is a good shot so kind of funny but adrenaline rush.

 

[lrick]

Using shit ammo is flawed thinking... using completely garbage ammo because of a garbage gimmick YT test that lOoOkeD cOoL is flawed thinking

Where did I state which ammo to use or not use? Also I didn't even watch the video.

I think we're actually all on the same page here.

 

[lrick]

Yup and unfortunately people see this and don't understand how ballistics or ammo works. So they will think man I need this ammo.

Look ill be the first to admit thos 50grain shit was some of my first carry ammo.. actually Hornaday personal defense was my first carry ammo then I got this stuff because of macs video. Then thank God I replaced it almost immediately after doing some research

Yeah, in theory a near rifle velocity pistol round sounds great, but it gives up so much mass to remain intact and effective. I can understand why you might have started with it though. That particular bullet might, might, only be effective as a shot through a t-shirt and nothing but soft tissue and then that's mostly due to the hydrostatic shock. But again that is just too limiting. Marketing itself as some kind of AP work-around is disingenuous IMO. There's a reason the ATF hasn't classified it as an AP.

I like Mac, he's one of the reasons I bought a CZ P-01, but I'm surprised he's bought into this. Really want to test that round take it on a wild boar hunt, but you better have some back-up.

Right now I'm carrying 135gr Federal PD and 115gr Sig Elite V-crown, which I think are solid choices.

 

[Edwardteach72]

I like Mac,

Can't fucking stand the dude

 

[S&W Fan]

I’ve been carrying 124 grn. Federal HST for years. Got turned onto them by an ex Leo many years ago. We used to shoot indoor bullseye league together at our club. Once I made sure that my gun of choice at the time liked them I went and bought a couple thousand rounds. I’ve long since retired that gun but luckily the gun that I carry likes them just as much. Lucky me !