a movement to make tourniquet training as common as CPR

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Acer-m14 said:
Stop the Bleed ..

just jam your fingers in the wound .. or Thumb .. deal with infection later if needed ..

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Infection beats bleeding out, that's for sure.

100 years ago, infection like that a high probability of becoming a death sentence.

Now, if you're reasonably healthy going in it would be rare to die from the infection. If they can start pumping the antibiotics in within a few hours 100% recovery is likely.


If they get you to the ER with even a ounce of shit jammed in the would you have a decent chance.

If you die first from hypovolemic shock, there's no coming back from that.
 
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I took a Stop The Bleed course (with how dangerous work is becoming thanks to HALT) last year and it came with a free kit, Good stuff. I keep in in the car with my first aid kit.
 
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Bob said:
There are a couple of training companies that I know of, but I don't know of any classes currently scheduled. I'm working on becoming an instructor.
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I’m technically a stop the bleed instructor. They will give it to anyone with a medical background. My EMT was enough to qualify me. I got it to help out the guy that teaches it near me.
 
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Darth said:
I took a Stop The Bleed course (with how dangerous work is becoming thanks to HALT) last year and it came with a free kit, Good stuff. I keep in in the car with my first aid kit.
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Funny you mention the HALT act, most understand what the Letters stand for, but have no clue how dangerous it really is. Are you noticing a huge uptick in serious incidents?
 
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This is fine for those that seek it out but shouldn't be mandated. Clearly a move to highlight a political agenda.

I have one and I'll use their creative wording. See if anyone can pick up the real message.

Amid the increasingly poor diets of Americans, lack of exercise and the doubling numbers of heart attacks, first responder advanced medical training should be required of all. LOL
 
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GOPerfect said:
Funny you mention the HALT act, most understand what the Letters stand for, but have no clue how dangerous it really is. Are you noticing a huge uptick in serious incidents?
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Yes.

My capstone paper for my degree was on it too. 40% increase in attacks inmate, err "incarcerated individual" (can't call them inmates anymore) on inmate and 25% I/I on staff. It's not even just the big showstoppers that's the problem, it's the lack of any recourse for the smaller stuff. For the vast majority of tickets that get written, nothing happens, and now we don't even write them most of the time as we know nothing will happen.

Inside the RRUs (used to be SHUs) where out of cell hours are massively increased and restraints are prohibited or limited during groups, it's even worse.
 
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Darth said:
Yes.

My capstone paper for my degree was on it too. 40% increase in attacks inmate, err "incarcerated individual" (can't call them inmates anymore) on inmate and 25% I/I on staff. It's not even just the big showstoppers that's the problem, it's the lack of any recourse for the smaller stuff. For the vast majority of tickets that get written, nothing happens, and now we don't even write them most of the time as we know nothing will happen.

Inside the RRUs (used to be SHUs) where out of cell hours are massively increased and restraints are prohibited or limited during groups, it's even worse.
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At the County level, the numbers are very similar. More Inmate on Inmate than inmate on staff. They are not fans of the response team and response actions down this way.

Attacks in general are near out of control. Stay safe up there.
 
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GOPerfect said:
At the County level, the numbers are very similar. More Inmate on Inmate than inmate on staff. They are not fans of the response team and response actions down this way.

Attacks in general are near out of control. Stay safe up there.
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With the 15 day rule with HALT, even the most heinous actions against others will net you a maximum of 15 days in the SHU. After that you must go to the RRU. So you could critically injure staff one day, go the the SHU for 2 weeks and be out unrestrained in groups with them the next day.
 
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With the 15 day rule with HALT, even the most heinous actions against others will net you a maximum of 15 days in the SHU. After that you must go to the RRU. So you could critically injure staff one day, go the the SHU for 2 weeks and be out unrestrained in groups with them the next day.
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I would love those that wrote these laws to come spend a week behind the locked doors of a prison or a local holding center jail. Hell, even just a couple of days.

These idiots actually think all of these mutts can be rehabilitated. Yet another reason so few are taking these jobs.
 
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