A Recertification Successes Story

[kev74]

Andy's attempt at an up to date database of handgun owners looks to be as successful as his first four (yup, 4) trys at passing the bar exam.

Less than half of gun permit-holders in Dutchess have recertified

So, are we chalking this up to political protest, apathy or ignorance?

 

[E the massive]

Whats a pistol permit?

 

[@thewheels]

Whats a pistol permit?

Isn't it that pesky thing mentioned in the BOR?

 

[Bob]

So, are we chalking this up to political protest, apathy or ignorance?

None of the above?
The number is inaccurate. It could very well be closer to 90% compliance. We simply won't know until NYSP processes all of the forms they've received. And by their own admission, that won't be for another 9-12 months.

 

[SmallGameAddict]

So...one can safely assume from this data that the NYSP are forwarding the processed recert info along (and eventually, any lack thereof) via computer to your local PP Dept. We can also anticipate discrepancies will be crossed checked ( I.e. permitee deceased). We can further assume this data is then being brought to the attention of the Licensing Officer in your jurisdiction.

 

[Deplorable Me]

Andy's attempt at an up to date database of handgun owners looks to be as successful as his first four (yup, 4) trys at passing the bar exam.

Less than half of gun permit-holders in Dutchess have recertified

So, are we chalking this up to political protest, apathy or ignorance?

Dead democrat voters.

 

[SmallGameAddict]

And to answer your question, probably all three.

 

[99cummins]

None of the above?
The number is inaccurate. It could very well be closer to 90% compliance. We simply won't know until NYSP processes all of the forms they've received. And by their own admission, that won't be for another 9-12 months.

The nysp have to process the backlog of recerts as well as the continuing recerts that will be coming in from both permit holders that didn’t recert by the deadline and the newer permit holders that will have to file. This has clusterfuck written all over it.

 

[Saltwater60]

None of the above?
The number is inaccurate. It could very well be closer to 90% compliance. We simply won't know until NYSP processes all of the forms they've received. And by their own admission, that won't be for another 9-12 months.

I heard the same thing. About a year to process it all.

 

[Saltwater60]

We should all file a bunch of fake recert letters by mail just to fuck with them.

 

[GOYABEAN]

We should all file a bunch of fake recert letters by mail just to fuck with them.

 

[Phazer]

So, are we chalking this up to political protest, apathy or ignorance?

Yes.

 

[Target]

How many permit holders needed to revert?

They keep mentioning numbers but don't specify that only those that have had a permit for over 5 yrs are due.

The low percentages can be spun to show what a bunch of scofflaws we are.

 

[kev74]

I bet the total percentage of people who were supposed to recertify but didn't will be similar to the compliance rate with the AW registration boondoggle.

 

[Phauxtoe]

Nobody i know has gotten a letter of notification of this new process. a lawyer friend said its a no brainer loss for the state if it goes to court. they cant prove that people knew about it. the state has an obligation to notify in some manner.
(I did send in my Paperwork, in a big box, but have not gotten my return receipt yet.)

how do we know when we get recertified, my guess is we get nothing.

next time someone gets a traffic ticket and has not recertified they will be arrested!

 

[libertysnake]

Nobody i know has gotten a letter of notification of this new process. a lawyer friend said its a no brainer loss for the state if it goes to court. they cant prove that people knew about it. the state has an obligation to notify in some manner.
(I did send in my Paperwork, in a big box, but have not gotten my return receipt yet.)

how do we know when we get recertified, my guess is we get nothing.

next time someone gets a traffic ticket and has not recertified they will be arrested!

When you check the status online, it won’t say nothing received or processing.

It’ll say thank you for recertifying, and that you met you requirement — along with the next recert date.

 

[Acer-m14]

LEO runs plates .. no PP for van ... 10 MS13 banger jump from the van with pistols ... yep safe act works FUAC ..

 

[wdeister08]

Nobody i know has gotten a letter of notification of this new process. a lawyer friend said its a no brainer loss for the state if it goes to court. they cant prove that people knew about it. the state has an obligation to notify in some manner.

Depends how different state civil procedure is from federal. A sufficient number of newspaper articles, both online and in print could be considered "notice"

 

[Phauxtoe]

Depends how different state civil procedure is from federal. A sufficient number of newspaper articles, both online and in print could be considered "notice"

he said because the state has all the names and addresses they have a mailing list which they Need to use. basically its not an open to call to unknown owners. the State Knows who we are.

 

[Grimscale]

Sadly ironic that Voter ID laws, where the ID is FREE, were ruled unConstitutional and discriminatory, yet this travesty is permitted to continue.

 

[libertysnake]

Sadly ironic that Voter ID laws, where the ID is FREE, were ruled unConstitutional and discriminatory, yet this travesty is permitted to continue.

The dems don’t want to hurt their voting base of illegals.

 

[Grimscale]

The dems don’t want to hurt their voting base of illegals.

I am of the opinion that any polling place that allows illegal immigrants to vote should:
1) be audited - and any vote by a non-citizen be immediately thrown out
2) any illegal immigrant that shows up should be held for deportation
3) and person or persons who aid and abet this (from the State Governor down to the doorman) should be arrested, removed from their position, and incarcerated for no less than 5 years, and should have to pay all costs associated with the investigation, incarceration, and deportation of each and every illegal.