Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
2 parts .. i know some do not like Yankee .. but #2 backs it up .. ..
part 2
part 2
Anti-Freedom TRUMP (and his FUDD Sons) Worse Than Hillary?
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Bigfoot
.450/400 Nitro Ex
This this 100% everything about this video 100%
I actually almost made a post exactly like this hahaha after watching this video
gun_slinger_boy
.338 Win Mag
This is the new trend. The gun community on youtube is so predictable. Once one channel does it others copy. I give it about a week.
I disagree with them second video calling Trump the worst 2a president. I would put that on NFA, or national assault weapons ban presidents.
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Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
As far as gun rights go, I agree Trump is not great. At best he's a middle of the road type who will (mostly) hold the line on laws. If pro gun bills come before him I suspect he'd sign them but he won't push them. He's made it clear he's far more interested in border security and the economy than the 2nd Amendment regardless of how much he panders to the NRA.
I do think (I hope at least) that his appointment of conservative justices on SCOTUS and federal courts will pay dividends down the line.
I do think (I hope at least) that his appointment of conservative justices on SCOTUS and federal courts will pay dividends down the line.
Well the Sullivan act us New York state and had nothing to do with any president
True my mistake but I still wouldn't label Trump as the worst but he definitely isn't a friend of 2a.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Anyone want to summarize for those of us who won't waste time watching that asshole?
subsonic
.44 mag
Two butthurt gun nuts really believed Trump was their personal savior, and when he did a couple things that didn't line up with the 2A agenda now he's the worst person in the world, because they'd rather have an enemy in office set to take away all our gun rights than feel betrayed by buddy Trump on bump stocks and his noncommittal attitude toward due process (which he is consistent on with guns and with everything else).
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Thanks!
Burzum
.223 Rem
Maybe these twp pickle-smoochers should remember that:
FDR, the cockwashing Marxist, signed two strict gun laws: NFA 1934, and FFA 1938, and he wanted more,
LBJ signed the 1968 GCA,
Nixon wanted to ban the personal possession of handguns,
Reagan signed the FOPA in 1986 forever making it cost-prohibative to own machine guns AND advocated for (while retired) the 1994 AWB,
Bush 41 banned the importation of "assualt weapons" 1989 and supported (while retired) the 1994 AWB,
Clinton-the AWB of 1994 and put restrictions on Chinese & Russian imports through executive actions (Bush43, Obama, and Trump enforce),
Bush 43 in 2004 supported renewing the sunsetting 1994 AWB, banned the importation of barrels,
Of course Trump could/should do more but hello REALITY no president is repealing the 1968 GCA anytime soon.
FDR, the cockwashing Marxist, signed two strict gun laws: NFA 1934, and FFA 1938, and he wanted more,
LBJ signed the 1968 GCA,
Nixon wanted to ban the personal possession of handguns,
Reagan signed the FOPA in 1986 forever making it cost-prohibative to own machine guns AND advocated for (while retired) the 1994 AWB,
Bush 41 banned the importation of "assualt weapons" 1989 and supported (while retired) the 1994 AWB,
Clinton-the AWB of 1994 and put restrictions on Chinese & Russian imports through executive actions (Bush43, Obama, and Trump enforce),
Bush 43 in 2004 supported renewing the sunsetting 1994 AWB, banned the importation of barrels,
Of course Trump could/should do more but hello REALITY no president is repealing the 1968 GCA anytime soon.
The first video, I will not watch. The guy is a complete tool and an idiot. Every time he speaks, I want to rip off my ears and beat him,
The second guy, he just sounds like a seriously butt hurt turd. These videos empower these internet fools to make them seem important.
The worst 2A President? Not even close bud!
The second guy, he just sounds like a seriously butt hurt turd. These videos empower these internet fools to make them seem important.
The worst 2A President? Not even close bud!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The problem is that most people, (even staunch Republicans) believe that the 2A should have limits. Those limitations vary. Almost all believe in background checks. Almost all believe in handgun licensing for carry. Some believe that full auto isn’t protected. Some believe the citizenry shouldn’t have grenades and artillery. Yet to most, all of those people are Pro2A. See my point?
So to someone else who thinks that the citizenry shouldn’t have bump stocks or silencers, Trump is Pro2A assuming he doesn’t ban featured rifles.
Here’s a shocker. Are you ready? No politician out there is Pro2A. None. For a constitutionalist like myself, if you believe in background checks you are Anti 2A. Where does that leave me? Am I going to vote for a WORSE person to spite the Republican? No. That would be stupid.
Some people are too dense to see that. There isn’t any politician out there who is Pro2A. NONE. Some want less infringements than others. That’s who I will vote for. And that nonsense that we were better off with Obama is just nonsense. Obama would have definitely infringed but he couldn’t due to politics.
So if Trump is out there again against Kamala Harris, guess who gets my vote? If some guy running for the senate is a so called Pro2A but believes in background checks, guess who gets my vote if he’s running against Chelsea Clinton? What are you going to do? Vote out the Senate and House too because they don’t want you to have full auto? Give it to the extreme gun grabbers?
We sure do have a bunch of idiots here who don’t see the big picture. They will starve to death because they don’t like Brussels sprouts.
So to someone else who thinks that the citizenry shouldn’t have bump stocks or silencers, Trump is Pro2A assuming he doesn’t ban featured rifles.
Here’s a shocker. Are you ready? No politician out there is Pro2A. None. For a constitutionalist like myself, if you believe in background checks you are Anti 2A. Where does that leave me? Am I going to vote for a WORSE person to spite the Republican? No. That would be stupid.
Some people are too dense to see that. There isn’t any politician out there who is Pro2A. NONE. Some want less infringements than others. That’s who I will vote for. And that nonsense that we were better off with Obama is just nonsense. Obama would have definitely infringed but he couldn’t due to politics.
So if Trump is out there again against Kamala Harris, guess who gets my vote? If some guy running for the senate is a so called Pro2A but believes in background checks, guess who gets my vote if he’s running against Chelsea Clinton? What are you going to do? Vote out the Senate and House too because they don’t want you to have full auto? Give it to the extreme gun grabbers?
We sure do have a bunch of idiots here who don’t see the big picture. They will starve to death because they don’t like Brussels sprouts.
Hell, we can all go one step further...
There are no True Pro US Constitution politicians. There are even less everyday Americans that are Pro entire Constitution.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
And I’m willing to bet that some members here think that the average person shouldn’t be able to own 81mm Mortars yet they see themselves as Pro2A. They’d want my vote if they were running. But I guess my vote would be better served against them to go to their opponent who wants more gun control.
libertysnake
.338 Win Mag
I'm not sure where the line should be drawn, if at all, on what practical limits should be on military equipment and the citizenry.
I will say this though: I honestly don't think there should be limits, because I don't think limits are enforceable.
Now, hear me out. With the proliferation of both advanced machinery, and the free flow of information (the internet), we've reached a point where the barrier to entry, for almost any time of weapon, is lowering. The barrier to entry is nearly gone with regard to the means to manufacture small arms reliably.
There isn't really a practical way for the government to combat this without tight regulations around the first amendment, and encryption. (IE, all the horse shit around defense distributed atm.) Putting restrictions on those two would also essentially make us a police state, which is problematic for democracy. It didn't work with Napster in the 90s, and it won't work with any other type of file sharing, especially considering encryption today.
So, I just don't see limits as effective as we progress -- and, I find the policy required to even impose any limits as far worse.
Acer-m14
.950 JDJ
what i took out of the vids i posted ..
one .. we love it when Trump just goes off and tweets and slams someone .. Fake News and shit like that ..
one point five .. 1 1/2 LOL .. he is getting shit done ..
two .. from what he said in the elections . no more gun control .. fine ..
then shut the FK up .. bump stocks .. shut up .. go thru the proper channels. leave your personal shit at home ..
Silencers .. i bet his lips on that got the case dropped from SCOTUS .. i don't like them ..
when its a RIGHT .. MAN!! he needs to shut up .. the worst .. no ..
Hitlery would have done a EO ..
one .. we love it when Trump just goes off and tweets and slams someone .. Fake News and shit like that ..
one point five .. 1 1/2 LOL .. he is getting shit done ..
two .. from what he said in the elections . no more gun control .. fine ..
then shut the FK up .. bump stocks .. shut up .. go thru the proper channels. leave your personal shit at home ..
Silencers .. i bet his lips on that got the case dropped from SCOTUS .. i don't like them ..
when its a RIGHT .. MAN!! he needs to shut up .. the worst .. no ..
Hitlery would have done a EO ..
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Trump is not who I thought he was going to be with the 2A. That’s a given. He’s a NYC fudd in the sense that I think he doesn’t understand what the true purpose is of the 2A.
Now if you ask me, I believe a citizen should be able to own anything an infantryman or artilleryman or fighter pilot has if the citizen can afford it. Including bunker busting bombs and all that. That’s how it was when this country was founded. The citizenry had everything the government had. The poor like us had muskets and the rich had cannons and ships with cannons.
Where do you draw the line you say? Nukes? Yeah well you have to draw the line somewhere. The 2A was created for defense against invading armies and to dispose of a tyrannical government. If you use nukes here you’ll dispose of yourself as well so those aren’t protected in my opinion.
Now if you ask me, I believe a citizen should be able to own anything an infantryman or artilleryman or fighter pilot has if the citizen can afford it. Including bunker busting bombs and all that. That’s how it was when this country was founded. The citizenry had everything the government had. The poor like us had muskets and the rich had cannons and ships with cannons.
Where do you draw the line you say? Nukes? Yeah well you have to draw the line somewhere. The 2A was created for defense against invading armies and to dispose of a tyrannical government. If you use nukes here you’ll dispose of yourself as well so those aren’t protected in my opinion.
Well put @Willjr75. I just tell people who like to argue the support for Permits/Background checks this fact. Since when should a "Protected Right" require background checks or a PERMIT to exercise such? Is this truly a "Right" when having to ask for permission?
spat
.700 Nitro Express
If you want a president you agree with on everything, you'd better get your campaign started.
I'll vote for whichever one is more likely to implement policies I agree with, and appoint people I can live with.
Hillary vs Trump was no contest, and anyone with half a brain can see that.
I'll vote for whichever one is more likely to implement policies I agree with, and appoint people I can live with.
Hillary vs Trump was no contest, and anyone with half a brain can see that.
BDinPutnam
.475 A&M Magnum
All of which, mind you, was aided and abetted by our friends at the NRA.
I wish I had the money and strings to get elected but even if I did, I would be 1 vote out of hundreds against me. Also, I would end probably end up on Hillary's hit list.
We need candidates that are 100% Constitutional not just when it suits them
We need candidates that are 100% Constitutional not just when it suits them