Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I think it’s the only one they make but just in case this is the cession I’m speaking of. I’d like to get a better one for this coming season. Thoughts? Other suggestions?
Anyone with vortex crossbow scope 2-7x experience?
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Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Never really paid too much attention to my crossbow scope. I was kind of surprised the Vortex has numerical marking on the elevation. While you need markings for arrow drop, I'd think those numbers would confuse anyone whose setup doesn't jive with those numbers. Kind of like the Quigley Ford scopes out there.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I think you can adjust the numbers to your range and speed, but yes you brought up my main concern because I’m pushing 425 FPS and I didn’t see much drop at all from 20-40 yards. I had the same point of impact at both ranges so I would say there was no drop.
I’m just looking for a little more clarity and better field of vision that the scope I have now. It’s a bit fuzzy and the field of vision is very limited. I’ve heard red dots aren’t good for crossbows though.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
With those being etched into the reticle I don't see how they can be changed.
search on crossbow nation forum, you can find explanations. vortex and similar scopes adjusting the power changes appearance of the reticle
giving an "adjustment" to bow speed, FFP vs SFP. It will get you a usable compromise, But you are stuck using that magnification. Most i've read, vortex has positive reviews. I'll let you know about the red dot, just put an HHA speed dial with a red dot on mine, haven't had time to play yet.
giving an "adjustment" to bow speed, FFP vs SFP. It will get you a usable compromise, But you are stuck using that magnification. Most i've read, vortex has positive reviews. I'll let you know about the red dot, just put an HHA speed dial with a red dot on mine, haven't had time to play yet.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
That makes two of us, but I have seen many reviews were people say things like this about verifying your bows speed and then setting the scope to that speed and your good to go? That’s part of what attracted me to the scope. I’m certainly no scope expert and that’s certainly something I need to learn more about.
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Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Maybe you're right. Never used one with anything other than a simple reticle.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Me neither. That’s part of the point of me posting this. Maybe I’ll try to find the instructions on line today to review them.
I’ve read many reviews and one or two articles that say you set the arrow speed and everything just lines up. They have bullet drop compensators some why not arrow drop compensators?? I know some scopes you can get different reticles for different bullets and weights. Maybe they found a way to make this one changeable on the fly since crossbow speeds aren’t super different these days. I don’t know. I looked on vortex site and there wasn’t much in there other than reviews claiming this. You’d think that would be a huge selling point if this were the case.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Yeah. I'd have to investigate. As someone who reloads and deals with varying bullet drops at different distances, "custom" scope reticle make little sense. Things change frequently and traditional reticle allow you to readjust your dope based on that. I feel arrows function on basically the same concept. If you don't have a chronograph then you have to rely on testing distance and point of impact. Interested to learn more.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
So it was very easy to find the directions since they were right on vortex’s page for the scope, go figure To break it down they essentially say set up at 6 yards, center bolts, then go out to 40 yards and verify. Due to bolt flight path they should be the same. Then it says go out to 60 yards and adjust FPS(I’m guessing feet per second) ring to bows advertised FPS range and it will adjust the holdover point from 60 yards and beyond. Here is the link. I don’t know how it works or if it even does, but 40 yards is good enough for me. Id be hard pressed to find a clear shot past that distance anyway. So even if this gets me to 40-60 yards I’d be pleased if it was clearer and had better field of view. I may order it.
vortexoptics.widen.net
VTX_M-00288-1_CF2_RS_P_PM_WEB.pdf
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Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I agree with what you’re saying 100%. I also find it odd that the directions say set up a 6 yards center o target, then go to 40 yards and you should have the same point of impact. If that’s the case why do you have the center of the crosshairs then 10 and 20 yard hash marks above that. Then you drop down below the center for 30 and 40 yard holdovers. If this was the case you’d think the center of the crosshairs would be for 0-40 yards then have the hold over for 50-100 yards, but I’m just a simpleton I guess.
Also after further reading the directions it appears that they say if your 60 yard shot is low you adjust the magnification to the point of impact. So after the shot you look, don’t move the bow(ok?) and then you adjust the magnification until the 60 yard hash mark is where your point of impact is. Then it says to use a marker to mark the rage on the magnifier. Seems a bit wonky to me and a PIA to adjust that one the fly while a deer is in front of your face.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Hash marks above the reticle would be for shorter distances. Same applies with rifle scopes. If I'm zeroed in at 250 yards because that's what I normally shoot, I can use the higher vertical markings for shorter distances. Different magnification levels shouldn't need to change the point of aim through the scope. You're right. Who has time to distance a moving target, make scope adjustments, and then use some sort of magic marker? You have too many other things to deal with at that moment. I want to raise the scope, maybe make a small magnification adjustment, and be ready to squeeze.
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I watched the video and still not completely sure I understand the concept.
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Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Yes I get that about the hash marks about the crosshairs being for shorter distances. Im confused because the directions for this very scope say to shoot at 6 yards and at 40 yards, and the point of impact should be the same or close. If that’s the case why are there 4 hash marks for 10-40 yards? Shouldn’t it be just the crosshairs if this is the case. Then the hash marks should be used for 40+ yards?
Im pointing out that the reticle doesn’t match the stated directions so I’m questioning the scope I guess. I also find it weird that it says to mess with the magnification for over 40 or 60 yards to get the reticle hash marks to meet the point of aim. I just find that kind of messy and inaccurate. Then again I have to figure out if I care about past 40 yards. I may order it and try it. If it doesn’t function as planned return it.
You and me both!! Thanks for the input because I’m confused too.
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