AR-15 and Over 200 Rounds of Ammunition Recovered During Bronx Traffic Stop

[Shadow2]

The 1911 looks like it's a 22LR

200 rounds, that's news? That's how many i ran through on Saturday.

So 50 officers to get 1 gun off the streets a day. anyone care to do the math on that for me.

 

[ProgSpear]

Clearly this is piss poor reporting. I didn't see the word "arsenal" used anywhere.

 

[pjzwtl]

My head hurts

 

[Glenn B]

How ironic, the intersection of 211 Street and Wayne Avenue is just one block from E. Gun Hill Road.

 

[Snappo]

AR-15 and Over 200 Rounds of Ammunition Recovered During Bronx Traffic Stop

“We recovered an AR-15 Assault Rifle, two handguns and eight loaded magazines- it was a lot of firepower for one guy to have in his car,” said Police Officer Lindquist.

“It was good to get it all off the streets.”

AR-15 and Over 200 Rounds of Ammunition Recovered During Bronx Traffic Stop - Breaking911

7 magazines and a semi-auto AR? ROFLMAO. Put the country on lockdown and start martial law going. I'm surprised the news isn't reporting a military coup was prevented. The A Team had more firepower than that, and over a half dozen seasons they didn't shoot one single person while going through at least 1,000,000 rounds of ammo.

 

[Airborneguy]

Weak on information. I'll look up the report tomorrow. I'm willing to venture this wasn't an upstanding citizen driving to the range. The boxes raise my senses that this was "gun running" - brand new guns from down south somewhere headed to a gang member's apartment. You be very surprised to learnthat bangers do trick out their guns. They do their cars right? Why not their guns?

 

[Podmonkey]

Weak on information. I'll look up the report tomorrow. I'm willing to venture this wasn't an upstanding citizen driving to the range. The boxes raise my senses that this was "gun running" - brand new guns from down south somewhere headed to a gang member's apartment. You be very surprised to learnthat bangers do trick out their guns. They do their cars right? Why not their guns?

I think it's the conservative nature of the AR in question that leads me away from gangbanger gun. Also one rifle and two pistols, one of which being a .22, doesn't seem like much of a sales run. It would be interesting if you found out more details though.

 

[Airborneguy]

The boxes raise my senses that this was "gun running" - brand new guns from down south somewhere...

Perp from Fayetteville, NC (coincidentally I was born there).

AR-15 serial number defaced.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Ok. I'll be the one to say it. As per the 2A, no crime was committed unless they were selling guns to someone incarcerated in jail or a mental hospital.

 

[freddy]

Ok. I'll be the one to say it. As per the 2A, no crime was committed unless they were selling guns to someone incarcerated in jail or a mental hospital.

Removing serial number isn't illegal?

 

[Podmonkey]

Well the main lesson here is- don't ever go to NYC.

Check.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Removing serial number isn't illegal?

It shouldn't be as per the 2A. What does it matter if a rifle has serial number or not. Do hammers, axes, swords or knives have individual serial numbers?

I know it sounds like extremism but that is how the founders intended it to be. We've been conditioned to not view guns as tools and conditioned to be infringed upon.

 

[pjzwtl]

It shouldn't be as per the 2A. What does it matter if a rifle has serial number or not. Do hammers, axes, swords or knives have individual serial numbers?

I know it sounds like extremism but that is how the founders intended it to be. We've been conditioned to not view guns as tools and conditioned to be infringed upon.

Can't argue with that logic New Yorkistan or not.

 

[freddy]

It shouldn't be as per the 2A. What does it matter if a rifle has serial number or not. Do hammers, axes, swords or knives have individual serial numbers?

I know it sounds like extremism but that is how the founders intended it to be. We've been conditioned to not view guns as tools and conditioned to be infringed upon.

I get it now. It is not extremism. I agree with you 100% Will.

Ghost Gunner 2 is inbound soon.

 

[Airborneguy]

Build a "ghost gun" then, which is perfectly legal and an awesome F-U to the state. But taking the time to drive all the way up to the middle of the Bronx from NC with a defaced rifle that is illegal in the city is 100% nefarious behavior. The cops stopped multiple guns from ending up with perps who would use them in crimes. Without a doubt.

 

[Airborneguy]

100% on their way to a perp's hands. I don't play lawyer for perps. They are why our gun rights are always under attack, and they kill people. Either way, I won't defend them.

 

[Bozo]

That's a pretty light load for a runner. I wonder if he was on the tail end of his "deliveries"?

 

[Marine Cpl]

100% on their way to a perp's hands. I don't play lawyer for perps. They are why our gun rights are always under attack, and they kill people. Either way, I won't defend them.

My point is that even the "Perps" should have gun rights as per the 2A. If they are so dangerous, they should be locked up and not allowed to live amongst society. Why are they on the streets?

You've been conditioned to think otherwise growing up in this day and age. They've taught you that guns are bad and should only be allowed to be had by those who passed some kind of test.

Imagine for a second if guns could be bought at Home Depot with no background check for anyone in NYC. Would they then be illegal guns? Would guns be run into the city from out of state?

 

[Airborneguy]

You've been conditioned to believe that violent criminals can't be stopped before they commit a crime because cops are nothing special and anyone can do the job.

My view has nothing to do with the gun or its status and everything to do with the person it is intended for or who possesses it.

Re-read everything I wrote. It's perp focused. I couldn't care less about the "illegal gun" that is in the hands of someone I know isn't a perp otherwise. I've let them go back to PA, GA, AZ... plenty of times.

The fact that a rifle doesn't have a serial number means nothing. The act of intentionally scratching it off does.

Someone who doesn't do the job can't do that. Period. The courts even recognize that fact in certain types of testimony where "experience and training" is allowed as an explanation for certain evidence.

Fifteen years on the street as a cop has taught me how to sniff out a perp. A real perp who deserves every law possible enforced upon him before he commits a real crime. Those people should be arrested for gun crimes because they will use their gun against others.

Libertarian idealism is fun to debate online. It's a real cool position to take as it allows wide-leeway in the "facts" necessary to make your argument. But it doesn't work in reality. It's a fantasy land that couldn't possibly be further from the Bronx where these guns would have been used in crimes, likely murders and felony assaults... and killing cops.

Had good cop observed that perp last week, noticed something off, followed him and observed the bulge his revolver made, they'd have taken a perp of the street who intended harm, not a range training session or lawful self-defense. That's the difference: knowing the person you're dealing with.

Libertarianism doesn't allow for that because it is a fantasy.

 

[Marine Cpl]

You've been conditioned to believe that violent criminals can't be stopped before they commit a crime because cops are nothing special and anyone can do the job.

Nope. Funny how violent criminals in Texas or Miami with no record can go to a gunshop with no issues. There will be blood in the streets! Nope again.

And it isn't libertarianism. It's Constitutionalism.

 

[Airborneguy]

Real perps go to a gun shop and get denied or commit straw purchases, another crime.

Unless maybe you consider the intersection of E. Gun Hill and Laconia a gun shop? I don't know.

 

[Marine Cpl]

Real perps go to a gun shop and get denied or commit straw purchases, another crime.

Unless maybe you consider the intersection of E. Gun Hill and Laconia a gun shop? I don't know.

If they haven't committed crimes to be denied a NICS, why can't they go to a gunshop? If they can't be trusted with a gun, why aren't they in prison?

 

[Marine Cpl]

The real question is, do you support the Constitution for all people no matter what the consequences? I do.

 

[Airborneguy]

No, I don't support unlimited rights for people who've shown they do not deserve it.

I'm all for locking up perps for life and killing most who commit quite a few currently non-euthanizatjon approved crimes. The fact that society doesn't agree with me doesn't mean I throw up my hands instead and interpret the Constitution to mean "free for all!"

 

[Glenn B]

Based on many things above, my guess would be the guy was an out and out dirt bag looking to sell guns to other of his kind to facilitate other crimes. Just a guess but I would bet on it.

 

[RSCamaro]

Real perps go to a gun shop and get denied or commit straw purchases, another crime.

Unless maybe you consider the intersection of E. Gun Hill and Laconia a gun shop? I don't know.

I'm not so sure that that is a very bad place to do business. I would have guessed that they were on their way to Mount Vernon. or down near Lincoln Hospital.

...Ron