AR pistol with Serbu = Masterkey?

Discussion in 'Handguns - Pistols & Revolvers' started by Sixbennetts, Feb 12, 2018.

  1. Sixbennetts

    Sixbennetts .40 S&W

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    Ok, so I have an Anderson pistol that I built and placed on my pistol permit. Fixed mag, Tailhook brace, and I'm adding a Law Folder.

    If the Serbu Super Shorty can be legally purchased in NY through Bullet Guy, (after CLEO review and $5 tax stamp), and added to my pistol permit....

    Can I combine them to make a Masterkey? (I have no professional need for such a weapon, but it might be a fun gun to make).

    *don't make fun of my paintshop skills!

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  2. Willjr75

    Willjr75 .450/400 Nitro Ex U.S. Military

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    By attaching it to the rifle, the Serbu now has a stock and a short barrel. The same would apply if you somehow attached a pistol to the rifle.
     
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  3. Sixbennetts

    Sixbennetts .40 S&W

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    It's a brace, not a stock, though.
     
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  4. Willjr75

    Willjr75 .450/400 Nitro Ex U.S. Military

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    You have a point.
     
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  5. Sixbennetts

    Sixbennetts .40 S&W

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    Yeah, but it's at the top of my head! (Pinhead).

    So, how 'bout it, all you legal eagles on here? Do-able?
     
  6. HEX

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    It's not that I intend to, as you say, "make fun of your paintshop skills" , but your shotgun image is tiny compared to your picture.
    Just google up what a 'masterkey' set up actually looks like and you'll clearly see it takes a good amount of barrel length and wouldn't work ; regardless of the legality.. which I'm not even going to bother thinking about.
     
  7. Sixbennetts

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    I've got a 10.5" barrel and a roughly 4" blast can, so it's about 13. 5" from the front of my magazine to the tip. If the Serbu is 16.5" long, and I remove the pistol grip, it should be pretty close to the same length. The muzzle of the Serbu would be roughly an inch in front of the blast can, no?
     
  8. Bullet Guy

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    1st. You no longer need a CLEO signoff anymore.

    2nd, i am pretty sure you can not combine two NFA weapons to make one. But.....i am not sure the above is a combination.......
     
  9. Sixbennetts

    Sixbennetts .40 S&W

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    I didn't think an AR pistol WAS an NFA item? I built it as a pistol originally, and put it on my pistol permit. It has never been a rifle.

    Thanks for the CLEO info.
     
  10. Sixbennetts

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    A pic more to scale. Not my pistol, found on web, and reversed to make it easier.

    Also, my blast can is a little longer that this one, but that's definitely a 10.5" barrel. I think it would spoon in there pretty well! Front heavy as hell, and impossible to shoot one handed with the brace, but great from the hip for zombies!

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  11. Bullet Guy

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    Ok. Sorry. I was only using half my brain.

    Why not just use a longer pistol barrel?
     
  12. Sixbennetts

    Sixbennetts .40 S&W

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    Nah, no biggie! I have brain farts myself!

    I've seen drop-in cage-like thingies for full size pump shotguns to shoot those short shotshells. I wonder if one would work on a Serbu. It uses a Remington or Mossberg action, so it should, right?

    That would give you *maybe 4 rounds in the Serbu instead of 3.

    Pretty handy for when your 10 round mag is empty, but the zombies are still charging you!
     
  13. Edwardteach72

    Edwardteach72 6.5 Creedmoor

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    Well this is just dumb enough to work and now I am interested because reasons
     
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  14. Sixbennetts

    Sixbennetts .40 S&W

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    I know, right!? Sometimes ya just gotta try weird stuff.

    *psst..it would also give you a vertical foregrip, without actually adding a vertical foregrip to your AR....

    Shhh....
     
  15. Edwardteach72

    Edwardteach72 6.5 Creedmoor

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    , f4a5dfa2a284e98373cf954654d02212--be-awesome-custom-ar.jpg
    Here is a good lower for it

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  18. Saltwater60

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    I like it. I think it’s bad ass.
     
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  21. Sixbennetts

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    Nice! I've often thought that having a backup, short scatter gun would have come in handy, "back in the day". I would have loved to have had a Raging Judge filled with shotshells to fall back on.

    This one in the vid is only single shot, so it'd probably be a great breacher, but the SSS would be a little better in CQB, I think. Plus, the bottom feed reloads would be quicker than break breach reloads.

    *I think the SSS can be converted to accept mags, too. We'd have to keep it to 10 here in FUACville, USA.

    How about some mounting ideas?
     
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