ATF agent taking photos of FFL's A&D book
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PAMELA SCOTT ? maybe her name ..
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you can't trust google .. you should know that
Tried Duck Duck Go first, not there yet. Unfortunately not enough do know.
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The ATF's Industry Operations manual is posted online.
http://www.lawandfreedom.com/wordpr...perations-Manual-released-to-GOA-Nov-2019.pdf
Regarding photographing/copying records it says:
167. PHOTOCOPYING AND REMOVING RECORDS.
For best evidence of a violation, copies of records must be made to document omissions
and errors cited on ATF F 5030.5. If the IOI does not have access to a copier at the
industry member’s premises, the records may, with the proprietor’s consent, be removed
for copying using ATF F 3400.23. Upon return of the documents, the IOI must have the
industry member sign and date the ATF F 3400.23 indicating receipt of the records.
a. IOIs are not authorized to remove an FFL’s records (or copies of those records
including computerized printouts, from the licensed premises only for
convenience purpose or other reasons lacking a legal basis. (Only records that117RIP(b)(3) 26 U.S.C. § 6103(b)(3) 26 U.S.C. § 6103(b)(3) 26 U.S.C. § 6103
document violations shall be photocopied or scanned.) Refer to ATF
Memorandum dated May 15, 2012, Photocopying Federal Firearms Licensee
Records during Regulatory Inspections/Investigations.
b. If there are too many records to copy, a representative sample should be
photocopied, photographed, or scanned to document the violation. For
inspections that do not result in recommendation of revocation or denial (e.g.,
ROV, WL, WC, etc.), a minimum sample of five photocopies of instances of each
type of violation is sufficient for demonstrating the violation. However, all
instances of the violation must be documented on a worksheet. Division counsel
should be consulted regarding the number of forms needed as evidence.
c. Photocopies of FFL and FEL A&D records must be made prior to the
licensee/permittee making any corrective notations on them, for documentary
purposes. Further, an FFL or FEL should not make amendments to transaction
records, such as the ATF F 4473. Rather, if it is necessary, due to traceability of
the firearm for a purchaser to return to the premises to add or correct information
on a firearms or explosives transaction record, you should advise them to make a
photocopy of the record and have amendments made to the photocopy.
d. Refer to Advisory on Safe Photography, for guidance when taking photographs
around explosives.
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http://www.lawandfreedom.com/wordpr...perations-Manual-released-to-GOA-Nov-2019.pdf
Regarding photographing/copying records it says:
167. PHOTOCOPYING AND REMOVING RECORDS.
For best evidence of a violation, copies of records must be made to document omissions
and errors cited on ATF F 5030.5. If the IOI does not have access to a copier at the
industry member’s premises, the records may, with the proprietor’s consent, be removed
for copying using ATF F 3400.23. Upon return of the documents, the IOI must have the
industry member sign and date the ATF F 3400.23 indicating receipt of the records.
a. IOIs are not authorized to remove an FFL’s records (or copies of those records
including computerized printouts, from the licensed premises only for
convenience purpose or other reasons lacking a legal basis. (Only records that117RIP(b)(3) 26 U.S.C. § 6103(b)(3) 26 U.S.C. § 6103(b)(3) 26 U.S.C. § 6103
document violations shall be photocopied or scanned.) Refer to ATF
Memorandum dated May 15, 2012, Photocopying Federal Firearms Licensee
Records during Regulatory Inspections/Investigations.
b. If there are too many records to copy, a representative sample should be
photocopied, photographed, or scanned to document the violation. For
inspections that do not result in recommendation of revocation or denial (e.g.,
ROV, WL, WC, etc.), a minimum sample of five photocopies of instances of each
type of violation is sufficient for demonstrating the violation. However, all
instances of the violation must be documented on a worksheet. Division counsel
should be consulted regarding the number of forms needed as evidence.
c. Photocopies of FFL and FEL A&D records must be made prior to the
licensee/permittee making any corrective notations on them, for documentary
purposes. Further, an FFL or FEL should not make amendments to transaction
records, such as the ATF F 4473. Rather, if it is necessary, due to traceability of
the firearm for a purchaser to return to the premises to add or correct information
on a firearms or explosives transaction record, you should advise them to make a
photocopy of the record and have amendments made to the photocopy.
d. Refer to Advisory on Safe Photography, for guidance when taking photographs
around explosives.
ATF agent caught on camera recording FFL's A&D books with personal cell phone > General Discussion > AR15.COM
Another federal agency that needs to be defunded.
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If the IOI does not have access to a copier at the
industry member’s premises,
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the only FFL with out a copy machine LOL ..
If the IOI does not have access to a copier at the
industry member’s premises,
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the only FFL with out a copy machine LOL ..
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Yes it would as she's using it in her job.
If a police officer take a photo at a crime scene their phone is now able to be subpoenaed.