ATF: Minnesota permit to carry now satisfies background check for buying guns

[livingston]

ATF: Minnesota permit to carry now satisfies background check for buying guns
Any carry permits with expiration dates of Aug. 1, 2019, or later now qualify as alternatives to usual the FBI instant background checks.

Minnesota residents with a permit to carry may now purchase a firearm from a licensed dealer without the normally required background check, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) announced Friday.

The ATF has determined that the state’s requirement for getting a permit to carry complies with the background check requirements under federal law for purchasing a firearm.

Any carry permits with expiration dates of Aug. 1, 2019, or later now qualify as alternatives to the usual FBI instant background checks.


ATF Assistant Director Marvin Richardson wrote a letter to all state federal firearms licensees to announce the change.

In the letter, Richardson said the new change, however, does not apply to the Minnesota permit to purchase.

ATF: Minnesota permit to carry now satisfies background check for buying guns

 

[livingston]

In the letter, Richardson said the new change, however, does not apply to the Minnesota permit to purchase.

Perhaps this is like needing a coupon to purchase in this state ?

 

[spat]

In the letter, Richardson said the new change, however, does not apply to the Minnesota permit to purchase.

Perhaps this is like needing a coupon to purchase in this state ?

I believe it is more like an in state NICS check than a coupon system, all handled at the dealer.

If you possess a valid Minnesota permit to carry a handgun, that permit constitutes a permit to purchase.

seems to make that statement by the ATF kind of moot. From Administrative Services - Permit to Purchase / Transfer

 

[BerettaGuy]

In the letter, Richardson said the new change, however, does not apply to the Minnesota permit to purchase.

Perhaps this is like needing a coupon to purchase in this state ?

Not like NY. This is how NY was supposed to be. Permit to purchase is a shall issue. Never happened that way.

PERMIT TO PURCHASE / TRANSFER
Under Minnesota law, handgun transfers involve any sale, gift, loan, assignment or other delivery to another person. If you possess a valid Minnesota permit to carry a handgun, that permit constitutes a permit to purchase. You don't need to apply for a separate permit to purchase.

NY Used to me like that until 2013

Options for Obtaining a Permit to Purchase/Transfer
Option 1
Fill out a Minnesota Uniform Firearm Application/Receipt Permit to Purchase/Transfer. Submit the application to your local police chief, or if your municipality does not have a police department, to your county's sheriff. The law enforcement agency will conduct a series of background-related checks to assure you meet eligibility requirements established in state law.

Once those checks are complete, a one-year permit to purchase a handgun in Minnesota will be issued. If you are applying for a permit to transfer the law enforcement agency must notify you of its status within seven days of receipt.

Wow 7 days!

Option 2
If you want to make a one-time purchase of a handgun from a dealer and you do not have a permit to purchase, you may apply directly at the gun shop where you will purchase the handgun. The gun shop will require you to complete a consent form that allows them to conduct a name and date-of-birth background check to determine your eligibility to purchase a gun. However, some businesses may choose to follow other business practices. The gun shops are entitled to charge a fee for this service.

Unlike NY, if you just want to purchase you must voluntarily surrender your "Fifth Amendment" Rights and undergo NIC's Check

 

[Phazer]

My New York permit states "NICS CERTIFIED" on the front. What exactly does that mean? Sure, I had to get a NICS check to even get my first pistol. But, does the card now obviate the need for further NICS checks?

 

[spat]

My New York permit states "NICS CERTIFIED" on the front. What exactly does that mean? Sure, I had to get a NICS check to even get my first pistol. But, does the card now obviate the need for further NICS checks?

It used to, no more.

Permanent Brady Permit Chart | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

The ATF changed the requirements to allow a state permit to qualify a few years ago, and the NYSP refused to submit the paperwork to certify that NY still met them.

 

[Phazer]

It used to, no more.

Permanent Brady Permit Chart | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

The ATF changed the requirements to allow a state permit to qualify a few years ago, and the NYSP refused to submit the paperwork to certify that NY still met them.

Thanks. That explains my last, subsequent, 18 NICS checks.