Background checks AND National reciprocity? Hmmn...

[VietnamEraVet]

We all know that thanks to the Parkland school shooting last week, that the odds of passing National Reciprocity are slim to none... and then again, are they?

CNN has reported that President Trump is possibly open to signing the NICS improvement bill. Only one problem for the anti's: both it, and the National Reciprocity bill were merged in the House bill that was approved. Now, if we could keep the RINO's and gutless wonders in the Senate from splitting that bill and dumping the National Reciprocity portion of it (HR38), we could say, "Sure, you get your stricter NICS bill, and our side gets National Reciprocity..." We're doing something on our end...

And if the anti's wouldn't agree to go along, then RINO's would at least have some cover to say, we tried!

Trump open to improving background checks, spokesman says - CNNPolitics

 

[togmaster]

Being selfish it would benefit me. A stronger NCIS is inevitable the way things are going but I'm not comfortable about the way things are going.

 

[96coal449]

Good Idea, but I say no compromising. Give a little for something makes sense but that's something libtards don't have.
Even if it worked, it wouldn't be long till another "event" had the libs screaming for repeal of H.R. 23. IMHO.

 

[Saltwater60]

I have no issue with background checks. I agree it’s unconstitutional, but anyone arguing to try to get rid of background checks will be looked at as savage at this point. I do think background checks do some good. Of course just a bit of good and agreeing to background checks makes us look good.

I’m not a huge fan of the national reciprocity anyway. I’d like to have it don’t get me wrong, but I don’t think a law or politicians should grant us that. If it’s granted to us it can and will be taken away at some point.

 

[99cummins]

I don’t agree with the background checks but if they are going to put all their weight behind background checks, should really fix the system to start with. NICS is Swiss cheese of a system. Hell the military didn’t report that known nutbar a while back and there seems to be no consistency to reporting real dangerous individuals. And the Florida asshat put up more red flags than a nazi rally and still nothing. Still blaming most of that on the fbi.

 

[Jmac00]

Im tired of giving in, Gun owners have been giving in since 1934, they can go screw. It's no deal if 'they' get what they want and "we" get nothing in return

 

[Truebeliever]

I have to be hopeful. If they add something to increase the reporting to NICS and make fair ( not a perception for insomnia gets you ineligible automatically ) , I have no problem with that being the sweeter to get national carry passed.

I do worry about things like no gun signs having the force of law spreading like it did in TX but would like to see national carry passed.

 

[GOPerfect]

I just think it is funny that most politicians had no issue with LEOSA but this, this is such a bad thing.

National Reciprocity is the same thing as LEOSA, only difference is the title of an employee.

 

[96coal449]

My heads spinning. I can't keep track of all these threads and what I've said in each. Then a new similarly related thread pops up.
Then the Alert light comes on and it's one of these threads pop back up. This is insane.
Hey wait a min ....maybe that's their plan.
Is this the thread about mental health? I forget my brains spinning again .....

 

[Acer-m14]

National Reciprocity will not do a thing for NY or Cali and some other places .. they will just pass laws like cali .. you can't have them UNLESS!!! ..

 

[Edwardteach72]

National Reciprocity will not do a thing for NY or Cali and some other places .. they will just pass laws like cali .. you can't have them UNLESS!!! ..

Yes it will. Here in New York for people who live in shittier counties that only give premise or highly restricted permits they can then just get their out of state licenses and carry how they want.

In cali where you don't need a license to register a handgun like you do here in New York it will help even more they just get their out if state license and go on with life

 

[Acer-m14]

In cali where you don't need a license to register a handgun like you do here in New York

huh!!! what !!! .. Cali bans handguns if they don't have this and that .. and in Cali you may get a ccw if you can pass 1000 reasons why you should have one ..

watch this lawyers take on it ..

 

[Edwardteach72]

huh!!! what !!! .. Cali bans handguns if they don't have this and that .. and in Cali you may get a ccw if you can pass 1000 reasons why you should have one ..

watch this lawyers take on it ..

What are you talking about. Even in California you can go to a gun shop fill out the paperwork do a 3 day hold and pick it up, you don't need a license like you do in New York to just own a handgun,

So with that being said with hr 38 if it passed someone In cali would just need to get say their Utah or Arizona nonresident carry license and now they could carry in Cali no issue

 

[Edwardteach72]

Not to mention there is already a SCOTUS ruling that a state cannot ban handguns. And there is plenty of case law that would prevent a state from trying to go from a shall or may issue state to no issue of a carry permit.

The way for 38 to work a state just has to have some form of carry permit on the books

 

[Acer-m14]

the state your going to has to offer CCW permits .. for it to work .. listen to her 1 min mark

 

[Acer-m14]

Not to mention there is already a SCOTUS ruling that a state cannot ban handguns. And there is plenty of case law that would prevent a state from trying to go from a shall or may issue state to no issue of a carry permit.

tell the 9th court that ..

heller says i can have a pistol for home .. so where in NY can i buy one with out a CCW permit in NY for my home ..

yep i just get to have a BP colt with no bullet or powder .. shoot them with snap caps ..

 

[Edwardteach72]

the state your going to has to offer CCW permits .. for it to work .. listen to her 1 min mark

Name one fucking state that doesn' offer a CCW permit?

Get your fucking restricted new york premise license and some bull shit out of state carry license.

Stop sounding so fucking uneducated

 

[MikeyCNY]

Name one fucking state that doesn' offer a CCW permit?

Get your fucking restricted new york premise license and some bull shit out of state carry license.

Stop sounding so fucking uneducated

Eight States Where The 2nd Amendment Is Your Concealed Carry Permit | Breitbart

 

[MikeyCNY]

Part of me feels like 'more' background checks for National Reciprocity is a good balance, but when you look at the most recent shootings (Florida, Texas, Las Vegas), how many of them would have been stopped by 'better' background checks? I believe the answer is zero... Vegas and I believe Texas shooters bought them legally, Florida it sounds like they were stolen and purchased legally? I haven't really kept up on the latest since the 'news' changes every few hours.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Eight States Where The 2nd Amendment Is Your Concealed Carry Permit | Breitbart

???

And in those states which ones don't also have a permit they will issue so their residents can also get their non residents licenses from different states?

 

[Jmac00]

in some respects, we already have reciprocity. I have a non-resident permit for other states. I can travel with my gun to other states without issue.

so why would it be a big deal to just make it nationwide? MONEY!