Bacon/pork prices to hike further as SCOTUS upholds California animal welfare law

[subsonic]

California is America’s biggest pork market and the only state that has banned the sale of pork from operations using industry standard gestation crates; some other states ban the practice in-state but are not major producers of pork and do not ban the product from out of state.

The law has been on hold under a “dormant commerce clause” Constitutional challenge but the Supreme Court has now upheld the law in a fractured decision. The industry now has no choice but to spend billions of dollars in compliance to continue selling into the biggest national pork market. This will affect prices nation-wide.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-468_5if6.pdf

This is going to hurt families just trying to put meat on the table that can’t afford to splurge. I like to buy local when I can but it is very expensive. A pound of bacon or pork chops at Aldi, Sam’s Club or BJ’s is going to cost quite a bit more and may get scarce, so you can thank a California voter at checkout; they did this to you.

The other question is how else voters and lawmakers are going to use these newfound powers in the future to decide what you can buy and how much more they want to make you pay for it due to California kosher requirements.

We already pay a big tax for California labeling and content laws, but this is different. Those “cancer chemical” laws have to do with stuff that’s actually in the product. This pork law has to do with the process that went into making an identical product and not the content or quality of the product itself, so it is steps further removed.

 

[livingston]

As a young child my father raised a few hogs. We had 5-6 sows . We farrowed them out in a pen that was about 12 x 12 . A heat lamp was in a corner so the baby piglets could stay warm and a board prevented the sow from this area. When the sow would lay down at times she would flop down on one or two of the piglets. . .. Killing them. I learned at a very young age about death as I carried the dead pigs to the hedgerow for the fox to eat. . The answer to this problem is to farrow the hogs in a farrowing crate. This is so the mother will not kill her piglets.
Doing so one can increase production 5-10 percent on a very narrow return on investment. . The goal behind all of this is to make folks eat much less meat. Look to see who pushes these bills ... These are the same folks that push abortion on demand and support killing children outside the womb. in other words . infanticide.

 

[Cavalry]

California is America’s biggest pork market and the only state that has banned the sale of pork from operations using industry standard gestation crates; some other states ban the practice in-state but are not major producers of pork and do not ban the product from out of state.

I might worry if California was actually the top producer, they are not. They just barely made the top 10 and pale in comparison to the top 5

 

[Saltwater60]

The Supreme Court are such radical far right extremists. Tell me another lie.

 

[subsonic]

I might worry if California was actually the top producer, they are not. They just barely made the top 10 and pale in comparison to the top 5

You are missing the point. The California proposition bans the sale of all pork products in California from hogs or piglets born to hogs raised using gestation or farrowing crates that don’t meet the standards, regardless of where they are raised. It doesn’t apply just to California; hog farms in Iowa, Minnesota, and North Carolina must be certified by California to sell there.

So, it’s either change your whole operation to California standards, or segregate your entire supply chain to exclude the largest pork market in America.

Either way, your prices go up no matter where you live.

The proposition also sets standards for eggs and veal. Egg and veal prices will also likely go up but the impact on eggs should be less as the supply chain is much simpler and there are already separate product grades and markets for cage free/free range eggs etc.

 

[Zerex]

Free Range Communists write these idiotic regulations...................pigs will eat any, and all Free Range Communists you feed them......and thats a fact jack.

 

[WillyK]

You are missing the point. The California proposition bans the sale of all pork products in California from hogs or piglets born to hogs raised using gestation or farrowing crates that don’t meet the standards, regardless of where they are raised. It doesn’t apply just to California; hog farms in Iowa, Minnesota, and North Carolina must be certified by California to sell there.

So, it’s either change your whole operation to California standards, or segregate your entire supply chain to exclude the largest pork market in America.

Either way, your prices go up no matter where you live.

The proposition also sets standards for eggs and veal. Egg and veal prices will also likely go up but the impact on eggs should be less as the supply chain is much simpler and there are already separate product grades and markets for cage free/free range eggs etc.

Prices go up either way so cut em off.

 

[Acer-m14]

So, it’s either change your whole operation to California standards, or segregate your entire supply chain to exclude the largest pork market in America.

how can Cali be the biggest pork market .. there all vegans and vegetables there ..

cut them off .. screw Cali just like every other state Screws with us in NY for ordering ammo online

 

[Jmac00]

how can Cali be the biggest pork market .. there all vegans and vegetables there ..

cut them off .. screw Cali just like every other state Screws with us in NY for ordering ammo online

FIFY

 

[VietnamEraVet]

Pork producers should set up some separate production just for CA, - and then price it at triple or even quintuple the cost elsewhere.

Then let the land of fruits and nuts choke on the higher prices,- or they can smuggle regular pork products in from neighboring statres.

Fuck ‘em. Let them pay the true cost for their asinine laws.

 

[Xae289]

Pork producers should set up some separate production just for CA, - and then price it at triple or even quintuple the cost elsewhere.

Then let the land of fruits and nuts choke on the higher prices,- or they can smuggle regular pork products in from neighboring statres.

Fuck ‘em. Let them pay the true cost for their asinine laws.

I believe that this is more likely to happen than that all producers convert their ops to be able to export to Cali. Prices might bump a couple cents on average nationwide, but it will be Cali that will see pork prices skyrocket.

 

[fresch]

Just like oil to Europe.

 

[ManualF150]

Working on a farm on my early stages of life taught me that animals on the farm are food. It's just the way it is.

You grow corn to eat, and feed the animals you grow to eat.

When I pass by a farm, I see nutritious food. Not some "oh, I need to save you piggy from XYZ"....

Call me insensitive, that's just how I was brought up, if you don't like it, tough shit.

 

[Jmac00]

Working on a farm on my early stages of life taught me that animals on the farm are food. It's just the way it is.

You grow corn to eat, and feed the animals you grow to eat.

When I pass by a farm, I see nutritious food. Not some "oh, I need to save you piggy from XYZ"....

Call me insensitive, that's just how I was brought up, if you don't like it, tough shit.

LOL, every liberal is Like "oooh poor little animal" then they are horrified there is a thing called MOTHER NATURE. and poor piglet or chicken or antelope or deer is being devoured alive by a wolf or bear or lion/tiger/leopard ( pick a predator ) and then they say "destroy that predator". Who's the predator now??? Mother nature, is unforgiving

 

[subsonic]

I believe that this is more likely to happen than that all producers convert their ops to be able to export to Cali. Prices might bump a couple cents on average nationwide, but it will be Cali that will see pork prices skyrocket.

Here’s the problem. I was wrong on one detail, Massachusetts piggybacked on Californian and had a copy at initiative matching CA, which SCOTUS has now greenlit. So, it’s not just producers in Iowa, Minnesota etc. that have to invest billions to change ops, there are 33 million consumers on the west coast and 7 million on the east coast, minus Jews and vegetarians, who were previously one unified market, that now need separate product cold chain tracked downstream through slaughter, butchering, processing (for cured meats) and packaging. We can buy the crate-free pork but CA/MA can’t buy the traditional pork. Any producers who don’t upgrade are losing out on 14% of their market.

I’m sure not all the producers will be able or willing to change their entire operations and the prices will go up most in the two (so far) states that voted in this bullshit, but it’s going to go up everywhere.

There’s no exception for resale and transshipment so the Massachusetts law is expected to disrupt distribution in the New England market.

Not just the dormant commerce clause of the Constitution, but the Federal Meat Inspection Act is supposed to set up uniform nature standards for meat to protect the national market and avoid this exact issue of 50 different meat markets. But the Supreme Court here basically said there are 50 different markets if that’s what the states want. We’ll see how that works out.

Who’s most fucked may be the food manufacturers in California and Massachusetts still in business, as the laws apply to uncooked whole pork but not “combined” food products like sausages, soups or pizzas. The way I read it hot dog or baked bean plants there have to buy crate-free pork and then compete on price with manufacturers using regular production pork made anywhere else.

All more part of the degenerate left wing dismantling of our society and standard of living. Attacking the food supply at the same time as the energy supply. Look at what happened to Sri Lanka when they went “organic,” from food basket to food riots within a single growing season. Look at Venezuela; from the jewel of the region, a wealthy petrostate, manufacturer and tourist destination to a starving hellhole with no industry and not enough food in less than a generation, with a quarter of its population displaced. Natural resources, thriving markets and industry destroyed by boneheaded central planning.