Biden bumps tariffs on many Chinese goods

[Saltwater60]

Funny when Biden does it it’s great but Trump did this and all they brought up is how they will retaliate and it would only hurt the USA. Funny how Biden isn’t touching any of Trumps tariffs.
Also pay attention as these are all areas he has invested in to stay in office and dumped tons of money into with not much return. So what’s his answer to make it more expensive for china to import it so maybe it will get made here. This guys a disaster.

Biden Imposes Tariffs on Chinese Chips, Critical Minerals, EVs — Bloomberg

President Joe Biden is hiking tariffs on a wide range of Chinese imports — including semiconductors, batteries, solar cells, and critical minerals — in an election-year bid to bolster domestic manufacturing in critical industries.

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[SonOfSun]

I don't like the tariffs from Trump or Biden.

It restricts competition. This is why cars are so expensive by the way. The big 3 US auto makers insist on pumping out 60k+ vehicles that really aren't affordable for most people. They don't care though, they know you need a car and if they can artificially inflate the prices to rape your wallet they will do it with a smile. China makes $10k-20k cars. The only reason they aren't here is because tariffs make them uncompetitive. The government is artificially altering the market. If Ford and Chevy had to compete against Chinese cars I can assure you they'd be making a bunch more affordable (sub 30k) vehicles. Since they don't need to compete... here we are.

 

[Cavalry]

If Ford and Chevy had to compete against Chinese cars I can assure you they'd be making a bunch more affordable (sub 30k) vehicles. Since they don't need to compete... here we are.

A company I work with in Europe has always had Audis as a loaner car for visitors. Last time I was there they had a BYD Han. What a weird car for a luxury sedan. It was almost nice, but not at the same time, it just felt counterfeit and goofy like something sold on Amazon. The biggest complaint was it was just too Chinese, misspellings or bad translations for things, and a Chinese womans voice that kept yelling at me.

 

[Cooolone]

Uncompetitive? We are supposed to compete with 3rd world countries? So I guess your @SonOfSun income isn't production dependent...

It has long been the tradition that it was less costly to build plants here and produce the product on U.S. soil, rather than pay hefty tarrifs which would eat at the profits. Building and producing here is actually more profitable over the long run.

Honestly could give $0.02¢ worrying about China, their economy is about to collapse anyways! And that's a GOOD THING for the U.S.!

 

[SonOfSun]

Uncompetitive? We are supposed to compete with 3rd world countries? So I guess your @SonOfSun income isn't production dependent...

It has long been the tradition that it was less costly to build plants here and produce the product on U.S. soil, rather than pay hefty tarrifs which would eat at the profits. Building and producing here is actually more profitable over the long run.

Honestly could give $0.02¢ worrying about China, their economy is about to collapse anyways! And that's a GOOD THING for the U.S.!

Yes, we are supposed to compete. Even against 3rd world countries. What - we can't make a better car than an army of uneducated 3rd world rice pad workers? If that's the case we deserve to lose.

You might not give 2 cents about China, but auto makers are lobbying the fuck out of Congress / WH to restrict Chinese cars. For example, just this week.... U.S. to Announce New Tariffs on Chinese Electric Vehicles. (The administration could raise tariffs on electric vehicles from China to 100 percent in an attempt to protect American auto manufacturers.)

The US auto manufactures don't want competition, that way they can fuck you out of your money.

 

[pshift]

A $10K EV is what America needs right now. Forget about jobs if we cannot compete and make a similar vehicle within 1 year. These things should last for at least 4 years and be disposable with $0 maintenance costs. Then and only then, would I buy a 2-seater like this.

 

[Saltwater60]

The problem is the big three USA automakers can’t shutdown so when the unions say FU GM, Ford, Dodge we want 40% raises or we will strike they say ok. The other issue with 60K cars is they got used to making money during COVID and they like it. Well a reckoning is coming and this certainly won’t be the status quo for too much longer. They will then go with their hands out to the government. Well they should remember and realize that the government caused this for them. I suspect doge will not be long for this world with the EV transition. People seem to be embracing the Jeeps as EV’s but I’m not sure they will cars.

 

[livingston]

Joe Biden Announces Tariffs on Non-Existent Products from Non-Existent Origination Country – Here’s Why​

May 14, 2024 | Sundance | 228 Comments

It was predictable [SEE HERE], and it happened exactly as predicted.​

None of this stuff is coming from China. It is all coming from Mexico via transnational shipping and Chinese manufacturing in Mexico. [Check Date]
On the EV issue, this tariff approach is politically duplicitous by Biden against the backdrop of massive investment in Mexico by the three largest Chinese EV automakers. Last December, the three Chinese auto manufacturers, MG, BYD, and Chery, announced they were going to spend billions building new EV manufacturing plants in Mexico. Each Chinese auto manufacturer was going to spend between $1.5 to $2.0 billion.
Those Mexican built Chinese EVs would pass into the USA market under current USMCA trade rules and regulations, as long as they technically meet the material origination rules. This can make tariffs against the Chinese imported EVs a moot point, because China will be making them in Mexico (North American trade agreement).

Joe Biden Announces Tariffs on Non-Existent Products from Non-Existent Origination Country - Here's Why - The Last Refuge

It was predictable [SEE HERE], and it happened exactly as predicted. BlackRock investment firm writes the regulatory and economic policy for Joe Biden’s administration. That’s the quid-pro-quo that maintains the Biden political financial operation. All of DC know it. No one does not know. The...

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[Jmac00]

the reason for these new tariff's ------- its a fucking election year, dumbass, Period.

this another dummyrat attempt to buy more votes

 

[Bigfoot]

 

[Bigfoot]

Must be the check of 10% to the Big Guy is behind the due date.

 

[togmaster]

China is kicking our ass every way imaginable. We need to get off our fat McDonald's stuffed fat asses.

 

[livingston]

Report: China’s Cheap Electric Vehicles ‘Could Be Nightmare’ for American Auto Workers Without Steep Tariffs​

The Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) premier automaker, BYD, is selling a $12,000 Electric Vehicle (EV) that “could be a nightmare” for the United States auto industry without an all-out ban or steeper tariffs on such cars made by Chinese companies.

A report from the Detroit News, which interviewed several industry insiders, details the impact that BYD’s all-electric Seagull — which sells for just $12,000 in China and about $21,000 in Latin America — may have on American auto workers without fierce trade protections.

Currently, former President Donald Trump’s 25 percent tariffs on China-made cars are the only reason BYD and other Chinese automakers have not flooded the U.S. market with cheap EVs to sell to American consumers.

Report: China's EVs a 'Nightmare' for U.S. Auto Workers Without Steep Tariffs

The CCP's premier automaker, BYD, is selling a $12,000 Electric Vehicle (EV) that "could be a nightmare" for the United States auto industry.

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[Saltwater60]

Joe Biden Announces Tariffs on Non-Existent Products from Non-Existent Origination Country – Here’s Why​

May 14, 2024 | Sundance | 228 Comments

It was predictable [SEE HERE], and it happened exactly as predicted.​

None of this stuff is coming from China. It is all coming from Mexico via transnational shipping and Chinese manufacturing in Mexico. [Check Date]
On the EV issue, this tariff approach is politically duplicitous by Biden against the backdrop of massive investment in Mexico by the three largest Chinese EV automakers. Last December, the three Chinese auto manufacturers, MG, BYD, and Chery, announced they were going to spend billions building new EV manufacturing plants in Mexico. Each Chinese auto manufacturer was going to spend between $1.5 to $2.0 billion.
Those Mexican built Chinese EVs would pass into the USA market under current USMCA trade rules and regulations, as long as they technically meet the material origination rules. This can make tariffs against the Chinese imported EVs a moot point, because China will be making them in Mexico (North American trade agreement).

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Joe Biden Announces Tariffs on Non-Existent Products from Non-Existent Origination Country - Here's Why - The Last Refuge

It was predictable [SEE HERE], and it happened exactly as predicted. BlackRock investment firm writes the regulatory and economic policy for Joe Biden’s administration. That’s the quid-pro-quo that maintains the Biden political financial operation. All of DC know it. No one does not know. The...

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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Chinese-EV-Makers-v2.jpg

From china through Mexico and many do t realize it.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Too little too late but just in time to hurt the lower and middle class.

 

[ManualF150]

This is only going to hurt us.

While I don't like buying China stuff, if it is cheaper and what I need, I'll go for it. It's also called being good to your neighbors.

As they say it... "Can't we all get along?"

At this point, I think we (meaning the US) need as many friends as possible with what is going on over yonder.

It's like when I'm at work... I sometimes have to put on that "fake plastic smile" to certain people. I hate their fucking guts, but I need to be nice. It's called being professional. And it allows for advancement and/or not losing my job.

The US is not being professional by putting tariffs on Chinese goods.

Oh, and before I forget... the nice life we live right now, you can thank China. Whether you like it or not.

 

[Willyone]

As I understand it EV sales are not doing well here in the US of A, plummeting sales because they're not practical (for several reasons) and they're too expensive. If shitxhizpantz/Kamaltoe get re-elected joe gets his 10% so cheap china made EVs will likely become readily available here in the USA. But if that happens I doubt there will be very many sold here. We'll see a few on the road, very few. Hey, I could be wrong, that happens to me now & then...

 

[ManualF150]

As I understand it EV sales are not doing well here in the US of A, plummeting sales because they're not practical (for several reasons) and they're too expensive. If shitxhizpantz/Kamaltoe get re-elected joe gets his 10% so cheap china made EVs will likely become readily available here in the USA. But if that happens I doubt there will be very many sold here. We'll see a few on the road, very few. Hey, I could be wrong, that happens to me now & then...

I'm waiting for DMVs to ban certain EVs. They are already doing it to certain cars that aren't even EV.

Then the road/registration taxes, etc.

Heck, everyone I know that has an EV in my area (less than 10), states they can't wait to get rid of it for either a regular ICE or at minimal a hybrid (non-plug in).

It is now costing more to charge the EV than filling up with regular gas or diesel.

I also feel as if the EVs are compromising the grid.

 

[FP1201]

Only "EV" of any interest to me is a Golf Cart, and honestly after having replaced batteries in many of them, I'd much prefer a gas one...besides, where we live, battery anything is a risky proposition.

 

[ManualF150]

Only "EV" of any interest to me is a Golf Cart, and honestly after having replaced batteries in many of them, I'd much prefer a gas one...besides, where we live, battery anything is a risky proposition.

My neighbor has both a gas and electric club car. I do the maintenance on them.

The TCO (total cost of ownership) on the electric club car is horrific. Meanwhile, the TCO on the gas club car is reasonable.

Both are of same age: 2001 Club Car DS. One is gas and one is electric. Same color too -- dark green.

Electric has needed the batteries replaced routinely every 5 years at the cost of $1,500 for Trojan batteries. If my count is correct, he's been through 4x sets of batteries. $6,000 in batteries. Not including electricity. So the TCO total would be somewhere in the $8,500 range including electricity. Probably be in the 5th set of batteries by next year or 2026.

Gas has only needed spark plugs, oil, oil filter changed yearly. Along with gas. TCO on that cart since inception is around $800. With fuel, $3,000.

We are going to replace the shocks and struts in both carts this summer.

Electric golf carts seem neat, till you gotta replace the batteries. I've seen lots of electric golf carts given up by folks that don't want to shell out mega dollars for batteries.

 

[Willyone]

I'm waiting for DMVs to ban certain EVs. They are already doing it to certain cars that aren't even EV.

Then the road/registration taxes, etc.

Heck, everyone I know that has an EV in my area (less than 10), states they can't wait to get rid of it for either a regular ICE or at minimal a hybrid (non-plug in).

It is now costing more to charge the EV than filling up with regular gas or diesel.

I also feel as if the EVs are compromising the grid.

Hybrid might be good for some folks, or at least ok. But I expect the honeymoon would end when the battery needs to be replaced. I expect the hybrid battery is smaller than it is for a plug in, but I'd guess still pricey. I'll stick with the full on ICE in my truck.