Biden DENIED Holy Communion !

[CaseHardened]

Many people believe Jesus lived, which I do not.

The bible is pretty clear that fornication is a no no. Same with adultery and polygamy.

As there is no object reasoning for any of that, I'll pass.

It's all subject to interpretation.

The Bible has been translated and retranslated many times.

Anyways, I'm not tied to the Old Testament.

The New Testament is far more inspirational - at least to me.

 

[CaseHardened]

Many people believe Jesus lived, which I do not.

The bible is pretty clear that fornication is a no no. Same with adultery and polygamy.

As there is no object reasoning for any of that, I'll pass.

Although last time I read it, plenty of Prophets were guilty of both.

 

[Robin]

Mombulajambula!
Bobin Bnamblanot

 

[CaseHardened]

Mombulajambula!
Bobin Bnamblanot

Are we BOTH drinkin' now ?

I hate drinking alone.

 

[Robin]

Hic
Bobin

 

[CaseHardened]

Just curious, where in the good book does it forbid abortion?

Thou shall not Kill

Though it also says to go forth and multiply. - Mission Accomplished ??

 

[Darth]

It's all subject to interpretation.

The Bible has been translated and retranslated many times.

Anyways, I'm not tied to the Old Testament.

The New Testament is far more inspirational - at least to me.

The new testament does say not to ignore the old one, so...

As for the prophets being "guilty" of this or that, assuming they were real, which I again have no reason to believe, why such phrasing? Why are these particular acts "bad?" Bad because they say they're bad? Circular logic.

 

[Darth]

Thou shall not Kill

Though it also says to go forth and multiply. - Mission Accomplished ??

Well, then I guess that 2A thing is useless.

 

[Robin]

Correct interpretation is, Thou shalt not commit murder.
Robin Ben Moses

 

[CaseHardened]

Correct interpretation is, Thou shalt not commit murder.
Robin Ben Moses

THAT is 100% CORRECT.

That alone illustrates the difficulties introduced in the endless translations.

 

[CaseHardened]

What would you pay to see VIDEO of Sleepy Creepy Joe when Father Morey denied him the Sacrament ?

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I'm not Catholic so my opinions admittedly might be ignorant.


If the Catholic Church actually cares about it's dogma and teachings it has to hold people accountable. If politicians or leaders or whatever want to use religious tones for their personal benefit but go against them in deed they should be excommunicated and denied communion.

You can't have your cake and eat it.

 

[Curmudgeon]

There is actually no such place as hell.....it was created by the Catholic Church to scare the membership.

Actually, it was created well before the Catholics. That being said it's still a fantasy made up to subjugate a people.

 

[Curmudgeon]

What would you pay to see VIDEO of Sleepy Creepy Joe when Father Morey denied him the Sacrament ?

Not a fucking penny.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Many people believe Jesus lived, which I do not.

The bible is pretty clear that fornication is a no no. Same with adultery and polygamy.

As there is no object reasoning for any of that, I'll pass.

Porn stars who've quit to become Christian preachers

Former US porn stars Crissy Outlaw, 41, and Brittni de la Mora, 30, revealed how they quit to become preachers. Both have spoken about how they overcame addiction and low self-esteem

www.dailymail.co.uk

Many people find redemption in the grace of God and his eternal forgiveness. We are humans and we are imperfect.

I have faith that I'm doing the right thing and that it matters. I've made plenty of mistakes along the way or regrettable decisions but I try to be better every day.

The truth is no one knows for sure until we die and the irony is once we know we either can't communicate with anyone living or we just cease to exist.

 

[Curmudgeon]

This is certainly a difficult topic to discuss without introducing Religion.

But I'd just like to say, this is about HYPOCRICY.

Don't use religion for votes if you clearly despise it.

UNCLE JOE

Religion is rife with hypocrisy. Especially in the bible.

 

[Curmudgeon]

I do too.

But by perusing the dark corners of the net, you can see videos of me having pre-marital..."fun times" with women, and that's worth eternity in hell. That makes me a "sinner."

Well, I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints. The sinners are much more fun.

Billy Joel is awful.

 

[Curmudgeon]

OK.

I'll take this opportunity to solicit honest debate. I'm an atheist. Richard Dawkins suns up a lot of my beliefs, however he can be a bit of a dick about sometimes. Any body care to share their perspectives or counterpoints?

 

[Curmudgeon]

Porn stars who've quit to become Christian preachers

Former US porn stars Crissy Outlaw, 41, and Brittni de la Mora, 30, revealed how they quit to become preachers. Both have spoken about how they overcame addiction and low self-esteem

www.dailymail.co.uk

Many people find redemption in the grace of God and his eternal forgiveness. We are humans and we are imperfect.

This is where I diverge. Your god doesnt have eternal forgiveness. Based on your stories he figured the best way to deal with humans (made in his image) was to kill his own son in order to fix imperfections.

That's pretty brutal.

 

[Darth]

Porn stars who've quit to become Christian preachers

Former US porn stars Crissy Outlaw, 41, and Brittni de la Mora, 30, revealed how they quit to become preachers. Both have spoken about how they overcame addiction and low self-esteem

www.dailymail.co.uk

Many people find redemption in the grace of God and his eternal forgiveness. We are humans and we are imperfect.

I have faith that I'm doing the right thing and that it matters. I've made plenty of mistakes along the way or regrettable decisions but I try to be better every day.

The truth is no one knows for sure until we die and the irony is once we know we either can't communicate with anyone living or we just cease to exist.

Nobody knows until we die, and then when we die we still don't know because our brains cease to function.

What we do know though is that there is absolutely no evidence of an afterlife, so we must have the best life we can now, considering it is our only one.

Why in the world would you want to give up porn to be a minister? Indoctrination and fear. Shame really.

 

[Darth]

Billy Joel is awful.

Don't H8. Appreci8.

 

[CaseHardened]

OK.

I'll take this opportunity to solicit honest debate. I'm an atheist. Richard Dawkins suns up a lot of my beliefs, however he can be a bit of a dick about sometimes. Any body care to share their perspectives or counterpoints?

I don't want to go religious, but ok. It could be too late. And I’m not sure how religious I am. So consider the source.

I respect and try to see the good in everyone. But everyone is not good.

That said…

Of course an atheist can be moral , and a good person.
The human condition requires us to join together and work together for our communities to prosper.

I do look towards religion to guide me. There are times when what is Right and what is Wrong is not obvious.

And although threats of punishment do work in both spiritual or secular societies, most people who do good do so because they believe it is the right thing to do. And doing good can be very rewarding.

We all enjoy raising our children, interacting with friends, and treating our pets well. These are universal traits of good people from every culture, and from every century.

There are so many different religions, and I believe they are all inspired by God. I believe Atheists who are good (most of them), are also inspired by God.

God works in mysterious ways. It is a sin of pride to second guess Him.

Atheists are people too.

 

[CaseHardened]

Not a fucking penny.

I would be highly amused by seeing that smug bastard's eyes popping out of his head.

 

[Darth]

I don't want to go religious, but ok. It could be too late. And I’m not sure how religious I am. So consider the source.

I respect and try to see the good in everyone. But everyone is not good.

That said…

Of course an atheist can be moral , and a good person.
The human condition requires us to join together and work together for our communities to prosper.

I do look towards religion to guide me. There are times when what is Right and what is Wrong is not obvious.

And although threats of punishment do work in both spiritual or secular societies, most people who do good do so because they believe it is the right thing to do. And doing good can be very rewarding.

We all enjoy raising our children, interacting with friends, and treating our pets well. These are universal traits of good people from every culture, and from every century.

There are so many different religions, and I believe they are all inspired by God. I believe Atheists who are good (most of them), are also inspired by God.

God works in mysterious ways. It is a sin of pride to second guess Him.

Atheists are people too.

Considering all religions are massively contradictory, and people deciding what they think is right and wrong of the works of other people, I’d say that religious folks can be objectively moral as well. It’s just unfortunate that the vast majority are not.

When members of the same religion can’t even agree on what their religion is about, them saying “this is right because God said so” is laughable,

 

[CaseHardened]

Considering all religions are massively contradictory, and people deciding what they think is right and wrong of the works of other people, I’d say that religious folks can be objectively moral as well. It’s just unfortunate that the vast majority are not.

When members of the same religion can’t even agree on what their religion is about, them saying “this is right because God said so” is laughable,

A great many people belong to their faith because their parents were, and their communities are of the faith.

It's often more of a social group than a bunch of people sitting around discussing theology.

Which is probably a lot healthier than endlessly going in circles arguing what, in the end, is unknowable.

Heaven, Hell, God - these are all no more than guesswork and severe simplifications, designed to make some sense out of things that are far beyond our capabilities to understand - if they exist at all.

But what I can understand is the utter hypocrisy of a man claiming to be Catholic for votes, while publicly acting in complete opposition to the most sacred tenets of that faith.

At some point a man who really believes needs to put his soul before Political Ambitions.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Considering all religions are massively contradictory

And at the same time. They all tell the same tired stories over and over...

 

[Darth]

A great many people belong to their faith because their parents were, and their communities are of the faith.

It's often more of a social group than a bunch of people sitting around discussing theology.

Which is probably a lot healthier than endlessly going in circles arguing what, in the end, is unknowable.

Heaven, Hell, God - these are all no more than guesswork and severe simplifications, designed to make some sense out of things that are far beyond our capabilities to understand - if they exist at all.

But what I can understand is the utter hypocrisy of a man claiming to be Catholic for votes, while publicly acting in complete opposition to the most sacred tenets of that faith.

At some point a man who really believes needs to put his soul before Political Ambitions.

Treating people poorly and damaging society is knowable though, and those social groups do that in spades.

Catholics do not all agree on their beliefs. Being judged by a group that is documented as harboring pedophiles and shuffling them abound to avoid prosecution is like having Amy Schumer tell me she dislikes me.

 

[CaseHardened]

Treating people poorly and damaging society is knowable though, and those social groups do that in spades.

Catholics do not all agree on their beliefs. Being judged by a group that is documented as harboring pedophiles and shuffling them abound to avoid prosecution is like having Amy Schumer tell me she dislikes me.

Darth, you know people in Salem.

Ask them about the outreach to Gay Youth, Migrants, and Food Pantries the Churches run.

Those people "walk the walk", and it's not the path you accuse them of.

 

[Darth]

Darth, you know people in Salem.

Ask them about the outreach to Gay Youth, Migrants, and Food Pantries the Churches run.

Those people "walk the walk", and it's not the path you accuse them of.

The problem with the "but churches do good things toi" argument is that so do non religious organizations. And with them you not only don't get the facade of doing good in order to convert people, the actual moral implications are better. They do it for genuine good, not because they are being threatened if they don't.

 

[CaseHardened]

The problem with the "but churches do good things toi" argument is that so do non religious organizations. And with them you not only don't get the facade of doing good in order to convert people, the actual moral implications are better. They do it for genuine good, not because they are being threatened if they don't.

Not around me they don't.

No one does squat but the Christian Churches.

And the ones I know of never try to convert the clients at all.