GOYABEAN
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Bill introduced to raise amount of bottle deposit - Mid Hudson News
A bill to increase the amount of the bottle deposit in New York has been introduced.
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Bill introduced to raise amount of bottle deposit
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MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Can you say windfall profits??
We don't have to put up with that bullshit down here in the Carolinas, - no deposit law here!
Bill introduced to raise amount of bottle deposit - Mid Hudson News
A bill to increase the amount of the bottle deposit in New York has been introduced.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
FYI
www.bottlebill.org
5. New York: In 2008, New York passed a law to escheat 80% of unclaimed deposits. In 2013, New York passed a law which requires $23 million in unclaimed deposits to go the state Environmental Protection Fund (EPF), with the remaining unredeemed deposits going to the state General Fund. Escheated unclaimed deposits in excess of $122.2 million are also designated to the EPF.13
Unclaimed or Abandoned Deposits - Bottle Bill Resource Guide
Information on bottle bills (beverage container deposit laws) throughout the US and around the world.
5. New York: In 2008, New York passed a law to escheat 80% of unclaimed deposits. In 2013, New York passed a law which requires $23 million in unclaimed deposits to go the state Environmental Protection Fund (EPF), with the remaining unredeemed deposits going to the state General Fund. Escheated unclaimed deposits in excess of $122.2 million are also designated to the EPF.13
JRtraderny
6.5 Creedmoor
just another shakedown of consumers to fill the states coffers.
Bill introduced to raise amount of bottle deposit - Mid Hudson News
A bill to increase the amount of the bottle deposit in New York has been introduced.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Governor's hush fundFYI
Unclaimed or Abandoned Deposits - Bottle Bill Resource Guide
Information on bottle bills (beverage container deposit laws) throughout the US and around the world.
5. New York: In 2008, New York passed a law to escheat 80% of unclaimed deposits. In 2013, New York passed a law which requires $23 million in unclaimed deposits to go the state Environmental Protection Fund (EPF), with the remaining unredeemed deposits going to the state General Fund. Escheated unclaimed deposits in excess of $122.2 million are also designated to the EPF.13
NewYorkistan is loosing tax revenue because working people, at all levels, are leaving.
Many $$$$ problems can be obscured by increasing "cash flow", even if there is no increase in actual revenues.
It's just another consequence of living in The Vampire State.
I never toss away a $0.05 can and sometimes will pick them up off the street. Never let the state keep it.
It's like withholding tax - why pay excess amounts to .GOV each week, and then get thrilled with a "tax return" of your own money which the state has "borrowed" interest free?
It takes a little work, but by the time I retired, I had withholding massaged so at tax time it was as near as possible to a "zero sum game" for fUSA and NewYorkistan taxes.
Many $$$$ problems can be obscured by increasing "cash flow", even if there is no increase in actual revenues.
It's just another consequence of living in The Vampire State.
I never toss away a $0.05 can and sometimes will pick them up off the street. Never let the state keep it.
It's like withholding tax - why pay excess amounts to .GOV each week, and then get thrilled with a "tax return" of your own money which the state has "borrowed" interest free?
It takes a little work, but by the time I retired, I had withholding massaged so at tax time it was as near as possible to a "zero sum game" for fUSA and NewYorkistan taxes.
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
None in PA either
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
My son's friend in PA brings his NY deposit cans north on trips here. He buys ammo with the proceeds. No deposit in PA but cans are stamped NY deposit. He's a former NY resident with a grudge. FNY!None in PA either
Deplorable Me
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Collecting bottles and cans will be considered an actual job in NY and you'll have to declare the money on your income tax.
A SUNY 4 year tuition free program.
A SUNY 4 year tuition free program.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
Gives a raise to all the dumpster divers.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
I'm sure NY would consider that a crime.
It would be cool if enough people did that to hurt the state financially. I'll bring cans and bottles back next time if I'm coming this way anyway.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
It is a crime. Michigan has it in their law and in NY law. I work in Michigan from time to time. $.10 deposit there. So I turn in my NY cans when I head west. Just enough to say "up yours." I am ungovernable.
ManualF150
.308 Win
It is, but how are you or they going to prove it? Most pop (soda) sales are cash.
It's really meant for those who have a trailer full of cans/bottles and cash in on thousands of dollars in deposits. Even then, it's questionable if it would even hold up in court.
A friend who worked a summer job at a local bottle depository told me that there was a lot of forgery going on with bottle labels. Like people relabeling non-returnable bottles (really meant for normal recycling streams). Nothing was ever done about it either.
It's really meant for those who have a trailer full of cans/bottles and cash in on thousands of dollars in deposits. Even then, it's questionable if it would even hold up in court.
A friend who worked a summer job at a local bottle depository told me that there was a lot of forgery going on with bottle labels. Like people relabeling non-returnable bottles (really meant for normal recycling streams). Nothing was ever done about it either.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
NY will put individual serial numbers on their beer cans. They're that stupid.
Catskillkid
.450/400 Nitro Ex
So basically you're saying that you're actually pulling the scam that Newman and Kramer tried?
My brother in Christ...you sir are BASED.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I forsee this having an impact on all those bottle & can recycling centers you see everywhere. If they raise the deposit, the people bringing them in get more money back for each can / bottle. These places make profit on the difference between the deposit and the material recycling value.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
Ammo money!
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
paper bags are bad . they kill trees .. plastic bottle are good they save the trees .. now were back to paper bags WTF
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
BTW all bottles are not equal for deposit .. and there fuckin plastic too
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
I asked the person at a bottle depot place how they make money. She told me the distributors have to give them $0.08 or $0.12 per can/bottle (I don't remember which amount). I had so many beer bottles at the time, I almost called a distributor to come pick them up.
New beer bottles aren't cheap either. A homebrewer might pay up to $1/bottle. A brewery buying many pallets probably can't get them for less than $0.40 each.
Does NY get anything from a keg deposit? I don't think so. Everyone should just buy their beer in a keg.
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
Back in the early 90s, I was new to the area and broke. I had a new job but it paid bi-weekly and my first paycheck wouldn't be for a month.
15 minutes a day at the 84/684 interchange was grocery and gas money for a while
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
You should see the parking lots the day after a Bills game. Canners a plenty with multiple giant plastic bags. People are such freaking slobs. There were two elderly walkers in my old neighborhood who walked with a plastic bag and picked up the discarded deposit bottles and cans. I hope I'm walking about at their age. You can bet your ass I'll be packing......
Bottle pickers no different than people who chase their brass at the range and come home with more than they brought.
our range had to put up a fence and badged gate because someone was coming in and stealing the brass.
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
When I went to the range last week, they have a sign asking you to clean up your brass. They have a broom and dustpan and a 55 gallon drum to put it in.
Do you think people will actually do it?
I swept up and dumped it in my range box. Haven't sorted it yet but I'm sure I have brass for calibers I don't own
Do you think people will actually do it?
I swept up and dumped it in my range box. Haven't sorted it yet but I'm sure I have brass for calibers I don't own
ManualF150
.308 Win
My ranges wants everything picked up. That includes the brass.
So when I go, I just pick up everything, throw it in ammo case then deal with it when I get home.
I have brass for prolly ever single caliber out there.
Proved useful for the pandemic when my neighbor needed some 6.5 for deer hunting. He bought the bullets he wanted, I had the powder, primers, tooling, and the knowledge. He only wanted 5 rounds. Made it up for him while he waited.
I wound up getting half a deer out of it.
So when I go, I just pick up everything, throw it in ammo case then deal with it when I get home.
I have brass for prolly ever single caliber out there.
Proved useful for the pandemic when my neighbor needed some 6.5 for deer hunting. He bought the bullets he wanted, I had the powder, primers, tooling, and the knowledge. He only wanted 5 rounds. Made it up for him while he waited.
I wound up getting half a deer out of it.
You will have a lot more homeless gathering around the supermarket cash machines. They are using photo-copied Coke and 7Up UPC symbiols and using a glue stick to tape over everything before they get to the bottle site which has machines only. It has not and will not ever work since the bottles and cans are crushed and leave no trace of the tampering with the system (genius move, btw).
Meh…I give them to the charities so Idk . I gave 10 cases of various soups that were getting near the best by date… I know they are good well past that but we have some old folks scraping to get by the taxes in skaneateles are stupid