Bill to Make 3D Printing Guns a Felony

[Acer-m14]

N.Y. bill would make it a felony to manufacture ghost guns on 3D printers

There's currently no law against making ghost guns; the new law would ban the ownership, sale and shipping of ghost gun parts in New York

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now account for half of the untraceable firearms confiscated on the city’s streets. The NYPD seized 17 in 2018, with that number increasing more than 52-fold to 365 last year.

“It’s on the rise,” Bragg said. “We obviously still have traditional guns, and we’re focusing on that, that’s a significant public safety issue, but that 75% uptick in seizures, which I think is a good proxy for what’s on the street, is disturbing.”"


so that 75% is only 4 guns

 

[Cavalry]

can whip up an untraceable semiautomatic weapon in their kitchen in less time than it takes to cook a turkey.

Ummm.... Bullshit. Show me one semi auto file out there that is capable of being printed on an average printer like a E3 in less than 4 hours.

Creating deadly weapons without consequences

Doesnt NY already have two "ghost gun" laws on the books? How about enforcing those first?

laws banning the ownership, sale and shipping of ghost gun parts.

Oh good banning parts, because thats something that can be done.

“For conventional gun manufacturers, they would have to embed a serial number on the shell casing of every fired bullet. Obviously, that’s not gonna happen with the ghost guns,” Hoylman said.

What? Does he not realize that micro stamping is still not a thing?

“A magazine is going to cost you about $10 to print, whereas you could never order a traditional magazine for that small amount,” NYPD Inspector Courtney Nilan said. “The lower receiver, it’s going to cost you about $15. And then to make the rest of the parts for the gun, and order whatever parts you need, you’re going to get a fully functional firearm for around $150, which is cheaper than a traditional ghost gun price and cheaper than a commercially made firearm.”

Where did they come up with these numbers? Printed mags pretty much suck, there is no reason to print when you can obtain them from other states. He is correct that you cannot get a glock mag for $10, they are a whopping $2 more than that for a knockoff that is still likely better than printed.
$150 for a printed gun? Where exactly? Maybe a lowpoint if you can find one, but then again you can get a highpoint for the same price. Anything glock is going to be at least $275-$300 with real garbage parts.

 

[dsdmmat]

Yeah unconstitutional on its face. The people have a right to make their own arms.

 

[dsdmmat]

Those numbers are way off. Even if I could get the frame for 15 bucks a used slide assembly is going to run more than 150 bucks closer to 200 and the parts kit for the frame is going to run 50 bucks minimum.

when I build a poly 80 with new parts it costs about 650. If I get used Glock Gen 3 slide assemblies it still costs me 500. So take 85 bucks away for the printed grip frame and I am still at 415 bucks for a used gun.

 

[Cavalry]

Those numbers are way off. Even if I could get the frame for 15 bucks a used slide assembly is going to run more than 150 bucks closer to 200 and the parts kit for the frame is going to run 50 bucks minimum.

when I build a poly 80 with new parts it costs about 650. If I get used Glock Gen 3 slide assemblies it still costs me 500. So take 85 bucks away for the printed grip frame and I am still at 415 bucks for a used gun.

Correct. Say $15 for the actual printed frame, then another $40 for the rails. Like you said, another $250 after that for a LPK and barreled slide minimum. What a bargain!

 

[JRtraderny]

Every one of these BS laws only has one objective and that is to keep us tied up in court until either we give up or run out of money. The only way to stop this BS is for the supreme court to grow some balls and issue bench warrants for these assholes and prosecute them. Until that happens this will never end.

 

[Cooolone]

Horse is already out of the barn, and question already resolved way back when the original 3D gun was printed and they guy distributing the files was challenged by the Feds.

Or hey, what would the Libs propose? You can make one at home if you use the technology available at the time of our founding? Lmao! I say ok, as long as you use the same litmus for Voting! Paper ballots only and nothing but hand counting!

Fuckers...

 

[FrankenCub]

I can't imagine most can even afford a quality 3D printer to begin with.
Hell, I still want one of those mills for making lowers but couldn't afford one.

 

[Rocpo]

Or hey, what would the Libs propose? You can make one at home if you use the technology available at the time of our founding? Lmao! I say ok, as long as you use the same litmus for Voting! Paper ballots only and nothing but hand counting!

Fuckers...

First amendment should only cover handwritten or print press materials as well as speech.
Not tv, phone, internet, photocopies, or computers.

 

[Zerex]

3D printers for guns/receivers/frames cost about $300.

Out of state the biggest thorns, is the buying of good quality cloned upper glock slides, etc.....I predict that 10 million, ghost Glocks will exist by 2025 nationwide and Mexico may lead the hemisphere, in such production for the streets.