It still goes back to the original comment that there is a reason black people are less likely to own firearms than white people
Black American Gun Ownership Surging
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It still goes back to the original comment that there is a reason black people are less likely to own firearms than white people
Along with how many other (its a large number) of gun laws were put in place to make sure minorities, specifically black people, from owning guns
BMF JK
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Here’s a rather interesting timeline of gun control In the US . I believe the gun ban for felons was also in the gun control act of 1968 , although not stated on this timeline.
I get what you are saying but its not that way anymore.
I have black friendcwho have buying guns for decades with no problems with Jim Crow laws any questions whatsoever. Pass the BGC, take home their gun.
These days its all about what the left and the media want them to believe.
It doesn't matter what way it is right now, the point being gun control has always been to prevent black people from buying guns,
BDinPutnam
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You like to argue just to argue sometimes, I think. That's OK, that's your right.
"It doesn't matter what way it is right now"?
Isn't the entire point here that lots and lots of people - regardless of race - have no idea they can legally obtained the means to defend themselves?
And why don't they know? Hmmm maybe because the system since the beginning has been preventing them from being able to exercise their freedoms.
Its funny, mention how the government is trying to stop gun owners from owning a gun, or make it harder and everyone screams "sHaLl NoT bE iNfRiNgEd"
Bring up how the government has always been trying to prevent black people from owning guns since day one and its "uhg black people can buy guns just like the rest of us there is no problem, the government isn't actively trying to prevent them from owning guns"
But yes I'm just "arguing to argue" has nothing to do with actual historical evidence that people are trying to ignore
BDinPutnam
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The point being that it currently has nothing to do with race and everything to do with control which takes me all the way back to my original point.
Virtually all of the divisions and problems we have in this country are economic, not racial, in nature.
Except it does have to do with race, the whole issue stems from the systematic racism, and is still based in that when those who reeee "sHaLl NoT bE iNfRiNgEd" but then the same group will say something like (and this is just an example) "I have black friendcwho have buying guns for decades with no problems with Jim Crow laws any questions whatsoever."
Got any links to info. I can read?
BDinPutnam
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He's not entirely incorrect on the history.
Where we depart is that regardless of the racial history of some of these laws and "enforced perceptions" pushed down into people, the current intent (and effect) is to keep the *underclass* down, regardless of race.
My point us that there can be two things that are true.
I know that many minorities believe they cannot own guns because of the GOVERNMENT telling them they shouldnt....or cant.
But......there are also alot of minorities who KNOW they can own guns and do own many guns.
The difference is geography and who they are listening to.
Heres an anecdote.....
Ive talked here a bit about my friend that works with me. He grew up in Buffalo in the projects. His mother moved him here when he was a teenager.
While growing up in Buffalo, he just knew that guns wrre not for his "kind".
His mother, teachers and mentors all told him that owning a gun is the quickest way to get killed by thugs or cops. Literally EVERYONE that owned a gun in this area was a criminal. My friend did not know of a single gun owned by a good guy......im sure there were plenty but no one talked about it.
If you were known to carry a gun (legal or not), you were a target from other criminals.
Now my friend has been here in rural WNY for over a decade and owns many guns and most of what he learned young was BS.
However, I am questioning his choices.
He sent me a message last night that he just bought an .223 AR which was custom built by a local shop. He says he paid $450 brand new........I am very leary.....
Oh sorry I don't have any links saved just for @fresch on my phone for a moments notice because he didnt know how to use Google
So because YOU don't know how to research something that makes MY "statement" bs, ok bub.
Quick question? Why can't we open carry in California
My point us that there can be two things that are true.
I know that many minorities believe they cannot own guns because of the GOVERNMENT telling them they shouldnt....or cant.
But......there are also alot of minorities who KNOW they can own guns and do own many guns.
The difference is geography and who they are listening to.
Heres an anecdote.....
Ive talked here a bit about my friend that works with me. He grew up in Buffalo in the projects. His mother moved him here when he was a teenager.
While growing up in Buffalo, he just knew that guns wrre not for his "kind".
His mother, teachers and mentors all told him that owning a gun is the quickest way to get killed by thugs or cops. Literally EVERYONE that owned a gun in this area was a criminal. My friend did not know of a single gun owned by a good guy......im sure there were plenty but no one talked about it.
If you were known to carry a gun (legal or not), you were a target from other criminals.
Now my friend has been here in rural WNY for over a decade and owns many guns and most of what he learned young was BS.
However, I am questioning his choices.
He sent me a message last night that he just bought an .223 AR which was custom built by a local shop. He says he paid $450 brand new........I am very leary.....
Oh im sure he got a "custom" ar for under 500 bones. It was probably a tossed together Bear creek arsinal pos hahhaha that gun shops love because they are cheap trash that sell quick
Oh, I dont know anything but I will post pictures. Maybe you all can help him modify it a bit.
He is also clueless about MSRs but he wanted to start cheap. He has the money to upgrade if he wants.
I'm sure there is enough collective knowledge on here to point him in the right direction
Robin
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As old as civilized society, there has been 'civil death' for those members who have broken the covenant with its' social structures in committing a felonious act by which they lose many or all of their civil rights, has existed.
As it should be, especially in a society, that at one time provided the most broad and least oppressive freedom of any society in the history of man kind. Now, government makes felonies of exercising those very same rights as described as 'God Given'! The next march on Albany should be a cleansing experience.
Robin
As it should be, especially in a society, that at one time provided the most broad and least oppressive freedom of any society in the history of man kind. Now, government makes felonies of exercising those very same rights as described as 'God Given'! The next march on Albany should be a cleansing experience.
Robin
Deplorable Me
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Equal rights means you practice and participate in all your civil rights. If you voluntarily give them up, that's on you. Once a year we are given the opportunity to secure our rights but many stay home and choose not to participate or trade their rights for lies and deception. I think the first liberals in the US were the ones that bought Manhattan island from the indians for a trunk full of beads.
BDinPutnam
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Hey those were NICE BEADS.
Marine Cpl
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For those that are google challenged. A quick google search yields that gun control started in California. You’re truly the NRA, supported the Mulford Act. The Muford Act was a law passed that banned open carry. It was in response to the Black Panthers open carrying in Oakland neighborhoods who were lawfully conducting armed patrols of Oakland neighborhoods, in what would later be termed copwatching. Governor Ronald Reagan, who was coincidentally present on the capitol lawn when the protesters arrived, later commented that he saw "no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons" and that guns were a "ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will." In a later press conference, Reagan added that the Mulford Act "would work no hardship on the honest citizen."
It later spread to other cities and states with heavy, black populations.
It later spread to other cities and states with heavy, black populations.
Oh sorry I don't have any links saved just for @fresch on my phone for a moments notice because he didnt know how to use Google
So because YOU don't know how to research something that makes MY "statement" bs, ok bub.
Quick question? Why can't we open carry in California
Ok, what year to start 1800's, 1900's, 2k?
Well you run your mouth pretty good how about you backup what you said or am I supposed to look up your bs at a moments notice? I could but where would I start with so little information given?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The law doesn't single out blacks, no one can open carry.
Can anyone show a law just for black gun restrictions?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Where did it start and why?
Wow you are one of those who doesn't have oh whats it called..... critical thinking
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
At this point, it’s all about the winning the argument rather than learning. Many here are like that.
So 1640 to what 1900's about government housing.
Move the fuck out of government housing then.
No one yet can show a law passed expressly stating blacks only; all people are caught up in the law, white, green, red(only sovereign so not so much), yellow, etc., please oh wise ones please in lighten me of your vast knowledge, so I might be as intelligent as you.
I see the intention but the outcome is we all got fucked.
Move the fuck out of government housing then.
No one yet can show a law passed expressly stating blacks only; all people are caught up in the law, white, green, red(only sovereign so not so much), yellow, etc., please oh wise ones please in lighten me of your vast knowledge, so I might be as intelligent as you.
I see the intention but the outcome is we all got fucked.
Or eating drivel from people that can't show why the made the statement.
Only a few are like that here.