Blakeman letter on gun rights

[JunkBoxFull]

I knew of one who absolutely 150% had no interest in voting.
Thanks to brainless brandon and heil hochul she registered and voted during the last major election and will likely vote in the upcoming midterms.

Gotta hand it to democrats... they are single-handedly "getting out the vote" (against them!).


More likely because they know they can't.
Governors can't just unilaterally declare laws null and void. They can do the best possible via executive order to reduce the damage those laws cause, or direct his AG to not prosecute or defend them...but can't just cross them out.
He would need the rest of the NY legislature to be on board with canceling those laws.

We all know that, its the smell of the fucking letter he wrote. Like i said, he should have just lied better.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Just for the record I don’t know of even One gun owner that isn’t registered to vote. Hell, I haven’t even known of one who wasn’t registered in my entire voting life. That includes hunters, target shooters and collectors , equating to hundreds of firearms enthusiasts. My small gun club alone has almost 2000 members and Everyone of them is registered to vote.

And just for the record......

“Sitting Out the Vote” — Hunters & Gun Owners Who Aren’t Registered - Houston Safari Club

When hunters and gun owners don’t vote, they cede power in political decisions that directly affect their recreational rights, conservation, public lands access, and firearm legislation. Recent reports show millions...

hscfdn.org

S.C.O.P.E. Shooters Committee On Political Education - Getting Involved Matters. It Matters More Than You Realize by John R. Elwood

"It is estimated that only 1.2 million of the 4.5 million New York State gun owners voted in the gubernatorial election. In other words, of the 3.3 million New York State gun owners that did not vote"

How many more links would you like me to add in here for you. Gun owners are not voting as much as you`d like to believe.

 

[Grimscale]

This kind of burden on an up and coming pol could do damage to any future aspiratiions. So not sully her with DEM created problems she is stepping back taking care of family needs, writing a book (sure sign of future political forays) and not getting mired in NYS politics.

So the GOP is telling America, or at least NY, they are afraid of having to do the work needed to correct this State (and country?) and are willing to let it continue to burn.
At what point will they step in and clean things up? Sure haven't so far.

Stefanik has shot her wad. She'll never get voted for now, since her optics are "I'm going to run when actual work is needed".

 

[Keyzard]

NY is so loaded with FUDDs though we cant even count on gun owners voting Pro 2A. I know PLENTY of hunters that perfectly fine with unSAFE. They dont care about no damn black rifles as long as they have their Remington 700 and a few boxes of .308 available.

I just ran into this with a member of one of my clubs here in PA. I was actually shocked considering how avid a hunter he is. I had brought up that there is a 10 round mag limit on the table for PA and we currently only hold the edge by 4 seats. He responded with the old "so what, my hunting rifle only holds 4 rounds." I tried to explain to him the death by a thousand cuts scenario but after about 10 mins of that I realized he was a lost cause.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

NY is so loaded with FUDDs though we cant even count on gun owners voting Pro 2A. I know PLENTY of hunters that perfectly fine with unSAFE. They dont care about no damn black rifles as long as they have their Remington 700 and a few boxes of .308 available.

THIS!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^ 1,000%
They will never give a fuck until it effects THEM personally. And when that happens, its to fuckin late. The unSAFE-act didn`t sneak up on us, either. We ended up with the unSAFE-act because of ignorant fucking gun owners just like you just described. We`re to busy pissing on each others boots.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

I just ran into this with a member of one of my clubs here in PA. I was actually shocked considering how avid a hunter he is. I had brought up that there is a 10 round mag limit on the table for PA and we currently only hold the edge by 4 seats. He responded with the old "so what, my hunting rifle only holds 4 rounds." I tried to explain to him the death by a thousand cuts scenario but after about 10 mins of that I realized he was a lost cause.

@S&W Fan

 

[Jmac00]

what a nice letter saying, NY is fucked, but I need to buy a vote

 

[FP1201]

And just for the record......


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“Sitting Out the Vote” — Hunters & Gun Owners Who Aren’t Registered - Houston Safari Club

When hunters and gun owners don’t vote, they cede power in political decisions that directly affect their recreational rights, conservation, public lands access, and firearm legislation. Recent reports show millions...

hscfdn.org

S.C.O.P.E. Shooters Committee On Political Education - Getting Involved Matters. It Matters More Than You Realize by John R. Elwood

"It is estimated that only 1.2 million of the 4.5 million New York State gun owners voted in the gubernatorial election. In other words, of the 3.3 million New York State gun owners that did not vote"

How many more links would you like me to add in here for you. Gun owners are not voting as much as you`d like to believe.

John Elwood is a highly intelligent and dedicated Man, with a background in Military Intelligence.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

John Elwood is a highly intelligent and dedicated Man, with a background in Military Intelligence.

I don`t know him personally, but i would have to agree from just what little i know of him, the guy is a smart man.

 

[FP1201]

So the GOP is telling America, or at least NY, they are afraid of having to do the work needed to correct this State (and country?) and are willing to let it continue to burn.
At what point will they step in and clean things up? Sure haven't so far.

Stefanik has shot her wad. She'll never get voted for now, since her optics are "I'm going to run when actual work is needed".

When you only have a few Republicans actually working there's only so much that can be done...We have lots of fair weather warriors that talk a lot of shit, but don't show up, vote, or get involved, then can't understand why those $25. Dues haven't bought their Freedoms back or insure more won't be taken. There lessons to be learned from Democrats: They invariably stick together no matter what...you think they didn't know Biden was a demented shit bird? They didn't care, they were going to vote (D) because they were told to and they stick together without question.

 

[FP1201]

I don`t know him personally, but i would have to agree from just what little i know of him, the guy is a smart man.

Often he'll man SCOPE Booths and actually talk to you and not at you, one needn't preach to the choir, just get them to come to Church regularly.

 

[FP1201]

I just ran into this with a member of one of my clubs here in PA. I was actually shocked considering how avid a hunter he is. I had brought up that there is a 10 round mag limit on the table for PA and we currently only hold the edge by 4 seats. He responded with the old "so what, my hunting rifle only holds 4 rounds." I tried to explain to him the death by a thousand cuts scenario but after about 10 mins of that I realized he was a lost cause.

I started to go off on a tangent with this but didn't, however since you broached it...39 years ago when I came here, I joined a local Club, like $5.00 a year and I could shoot most anytime without a Range Nazi up my ass or dumb asses with problems distracting me: Attended Meetings and while "Fudd" wasn't a Term being used, I can reflect back that's exactly what they were! when the AW Ban was being discussed, those in attendance were completely willing to sacrifice those "Evil Black Rifles" with every excuse they could find, they didn't give a shit because it wasn't their Deer Rifle or Duck Shotgun, but it WAS the Rifle I was shooting, so I took it personally. They very much had the mentality that "democrats are for the little guy" which was a complete crock of shit, but there was no changing their paradigm and were fearful of having the social club disguised as a gun club threatened by lifting their heads and being counted.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

When you only have a few Republicans actually working there's only so much that can be done...We have lots of fair weather warriors that talk a lot of shit, but don't show up, vote, or get involved, then can't understand why those $25. Dues haven't bought their Freedoms back or insure more won't be taken. There lessons to be learned from Democrats: They invariably stick together no matter what...you think they didn't know Biden was a demented shit bird? They didn't care, they were going to vote (D) because they were told to and they stick together without question.

THIS!!!!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^ ONE HUNDRED FUCKING PERCENT!!!!!!!!!!!

Gun owners need to stop pissing on each other and start backing each other up! This is exactly WHY we`re LOSING! We have NO UNITY! No GROUND GAME! Nothing worse than the gun culture pissing on each others shoes. I`m so fuckin tired of hearing that bumpiestocks aren`t no concern because a certain person has no use for it. I don`t care if they mean nothing to you, it`s a gun item, ALL GUN`S & GUN ITEMS MATTER! I`m no fan of the bumpiestocks, i don`t even want one, but i`ll damn sure fight to the death with those who want them, to make sure this government can`t take it away from you!

"my gun is prettier - well my gun will shoot farther - but mine is bigger than yours - mine is better than yours - but mine will fuck you harder"

 

[S&W Fan]

And just for the record......


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“Sitting Out the Vote” — Hunters & Gun Owners Who Aren’t Registered - Houston Safari Club

When hunters and gun owners don’t vote, they cede power in political decisions that directly affect their recreational rights, conservation, public lands access, and firearm legislation. Recent reports show millions...

hscfdn.org

S.C.O.P.E. Shooters Committee On Political Education - Getting Involved Matters. It Matters More Than You Realize by John R. Elwood

"It is estimated that only 1.2 million of the 4.5 million New York State gun owners voted in the gubernatorial election. In other words, of the 3.3 million New York State gun owners that did not vote"

How many more links would you like me to add in here for you. Gun owners are not voting as much as you`d like to believe.

I think your reading comprehension skills are a bit lacking. No where did I say that all other gun owners vote all the time. I merely countered your comment with my own knowledge on what YOU said about gun owners Not being registered to vote. I’m quite aware of the lack of voting support among a certain segment of gun owners as I have been an Active grassroots member of several Firearms organizations since the age of 18.
by the way, the pretty little graph that you posted doesn’t incl. NY , you know, the state that we’re living in and discussing. No need to look for one that does though. I’m also well aware of the voting record of firearms owners in our state as well.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

I think your reading comprehension skills are a bit lacking. No where did I say that all other gun owners vote all the time. I merely countered your comment with my own knowledge on what YOU said about gun owners Not being registered to vote. I’m quite aware of the lack of voting support among a certain segment of gun owners as I have been an Active grassroots member of several Firearms organizations since the age of 18.
by the way, the pretty little graph that you posted doesn’t incl. NY , you know, the state that we’re living in and discussing. No need to look for one that does though. I’m also well aware of the voting record of firearms owners in our state as well.

We`re done here friend. I know you know what i`m saying and i`m not going to continue pissing on each others boots with you over this shit.

Have a great day

 

[S&W Fan]

Don’t forget your ball.

 

[FP1201]

Just for the record I don’t know of even One gun owner that isn’t registered to vote. Hell, I haven’t even known of one who wasn’t registered in my entire voting life. That includes hunters, target shooters and collectors , equating to hundreds of firearms enthusiasts. My small gun club alone has almost 2000 members and Everyone of them is registered to vote.

I suspect it's not so much being Registered as it is actually going to the Polls...there could be a myriad of reason, even ones we haven't thought of, and while I haven't proved the claim, no one seem too eager to disprove it either...Cuomo (obligatory FUAC inserted here) said there were an estimated one million Assault Weapons in New York circa 2012 IF that same million all by itself voted as a block they would own any State Election, even rigged ones.

 

[Saltwater60]

And just for the record......


View attachment 281470

“Sitting Out the Vote” — Hunters & Gun Owners Who Aren’t Registered - Houston Safari Club

When hunters and gun owners don’t vote, they cede power in political decisions that directly affect their recreational rights, conservation, public lands access, and firearm legislation. Recent reports show millions...

hscfdn.org

S.C.O.P.E. Shooters Committee On Political Education - Getting Involved Matters. It Matters More Than You Realize by John R. Elwood

"It is estimated that only 1.2 million of the 4.5 million New York State gun owners voted in the gubernatorial election. In other words, of the 3.3 million New York State gun owners that did not vote"

How many more links would you like me to add in here for you. Gun owners are not voting as much as you`d like to believe.

Not even close to true or accurate. There are 19.5 million people in NYS. How many are foreign nationals or under age to vote, that would mean roughly 75% or more of NYS population is a gun owner or a hunter. No way.
23% or 4.5 million are foreign nationals so now we’re down to 15 million.
About 21% or 4.1 million are under 18.
So now we’re down to 11 million people that could vote, own a gun, and hint in NYS.
Now way we’re missing 10 million of them.
We also know8.5 million live in nyc and many of them are either of those two classifications.

 

[Saltwater60]

THIS!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^ 1,000%
They will never give a fuck until it effects THEM personally. And when that happens, its to fuckin late. The unSAFE-act didn`t sneak up on us, either. We ended up with the unSAFE-act because of ignorant fucking gun owners just like you just described. We`re to busy pissing on each others boots.

Some can be saved. I’ve converted many. Kathy Hochul helps. I talked a lot of guys not getting things before the safe and CCIA. Some o never thought would have black rifles.

 

[Saltwater60]

I think your reading comprehension skills are a bit lacking. No where did I say that all other gun owners vote all the time. I merely countered your comment with my own knowledge on what YOU said about gun owners Not being registered to vote. I’m quite aware of the lack of voting support among a certain segment of gun owners as I have been an Active grassroots member of several Firearms organizations since the age of 18.
by the way, the pretty little graph that you posted doesn’t incl. NY , you know, the state that we’re living in and discussing. No need to look for one that does though. I’m also well aware of the voting record of firearms owners in our state as well.

The graph is wrong. No way it’s about NYS.

 

[OwnTheRide]

Not even close to true or accurate. There are 19.5 million people in NYS. How many are foreign nationals or under age to vote, that would mean roughly 75% or more of NYS population is a gun owner or a hunter. No way.
23% or 4.5 million are foreign nationals so now we’re down to 15 million.
About 21% or 4.1 million are under 18.
So now we’re down to 11 million people that could vote, own a gun, and hint in NYS.
Now way we’re missing 10 million of them.
We also know8.5 million live in nyc and many of them are either of those two classifications.

Not sure where you're getting the 75% number. All stats I find say that about 20% (4.5m) of NY residents are gun owners, so that'd be 40% or so of the voting population, of which only 1.2m voted in the last gubernatorial election. If we could boost that to 3m of the 4.5, we could see a radical shift in NY politics.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

The graph is wrong. No way it’s about NYS.

The graph isn`t wrong. The point about the graph, is to point out that a lot of gun owners don`t even vote.
There are a shitload of gun owners who aren`t even registered to vote in our country.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Some can be saved. I’ve converted many. Kathy Hochul helps. I talked a lot of guys not getting things before the safe and CCIA. Some o never thought would have black rifles.

A few guys are still not enough to pull this shit hole state out of the darkness it is in. I use to think we could save it. We can`t.
But thank you for trying. At least YOU are trying to make a difference. NY is a lost cause though. I hope you can leave NY soon.

 

[Grimscale]

There lessons to be learned from Democrats: They invariably stick together no matter what..

Not true.
The #walkaway movement was real. The reason Trump got voted in by a landslide was due to a large number of Democrats who "cross the line" because they saw the party they used to support had changed all out of recognition.
It was up to the GoP to capitalize on that. Instead they decided to ignore the campaign promises and go back to full right-wing retard.
The only thing holding them in place now is the dems have gone even further left-wing retard.

 

[fresch]

1) how do we know how many gun owners there are?
2) how do we know who voted?
It is all top secret.

 

[JunkBoxFull]

Not true.
The #walkaway movement was real. The reason Trump got voted in by a landslide was due to a large number of Democrats who "cross the line" because they saw the party they used to support had changed all out of recognition.
It was up to the GoP to capitalize on that. Instead they decided to ignore the campaign promises and go back to full right-wing retard.
The only thing holding them in place now is the dems have gone even further left-wing retard.

And now more than ever, in MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION, people are tired of the political fucking bullshit on BOTH sides and will no longer vote.

We have a government problem, and its getting worse.